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Baylor vs Notre Dame 4/7

Baylor vs Notre Dame

  • Baylor

    Votes: 29 72.5%

  • Notre Dame

    Votes: 11 27.5%
  • Total voters
    40
  • Poll closed .
Orangutan said:
Ok, substantive response.

Yes, ND returned 4 starters from last year's NC team and brought back Turner. However last year's team trailed at halftime in their last 4 tourney games. ND could just as easily have lost in the Elite 8 last year.

It was something of a minor miracle ND won last year. They were not the best team in the country. Probably UConn was. But the best team doesn't always win a single-elim tournament.

So in my opinion (yours seems to differ greatly), getting those players back simply made this a team that might *actually* be the best in the country.

In the end, they won the ACC championship (regular season and tourney) and earned the #2 overall seed in the tournament. Then in the tournament they made the final where they lost to the #1 overall seed by 1 point.

This team had enough talent that only a national championship could be considered a complete success. However, yes, I think they made an excellent title defense.
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A well-reasoned response.

There is no doubt Notre Dame was formidable in the tournament, and it took a momentous effort from an excellent team in Baylor to defeat them.
 
May have already been said, but I see no scenario that would have allowed Baylor to win in OT. They were depleted and in trouble. Thank goodness free throws aren't free.
 
Notre Dame returns just 6 points (if Jackie Young returns) from the national title game. Young really struggled shooting the ball tonight, but still impacted the game in other ways.
 
DaBball said:
Notre Dame returns just 6 points (if Jackie Young returns) from the national title game. Young really struggled shooting the ball tonight, but still impacted the game in other ways.
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This may be the first big game I can remember when Jackie's impact was so minimal. One notable ND poster had taken to calling her Big Game Jackie.

So now I wonder: Does losing this game influence Jackie's decision to stay or go pro?
 
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nwhoopfan said:
The most clutch player ever just choked away a chance for a repeat title. Oops. Will ESPN show that replay 1,000 times also?

Congrats to Baylor and Coach Mulkey. I've been critical of her at times, but Championship #3 puts her in very rare company. Holding off that big charge from ND and shaking off the bad injury to Cox is impressive.
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She actually choked twice...the missed FT and then she was unable to execute a deliberate miss. Karma is a word that rhymes with witch.
 
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donalddoowop said:
That was said about ND after last season. It's hard to win two years in a row unless your initials are GA. This takes the disappointment out of UConn's loss Friday for me. I don't see how UConn would have beaten Baylor. They were just too tall, strong, and athletic. They were as good as they were because of both Brown and Cox. You saw what happened when one of them was not playing. Next season they may be good but not championship good.
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Who else besides Oregon & Baylor is championship good next year?
 
donalddoowop said:
Some people thought that about UConn's team last season.
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You could say the same about this year's team. From an outside perspective, you look at UConn having 3 #1 players in the starting lineup, plus the #1 PG from her class, and then Collier with ONO coming off the bench. The first six players were top 10 recruits, and four of them in the top 3. If I just looked at that on paper I'd expect that team to be even more dominant than the Stewie teams.
 
I have to agree about this board being the best place to read and find interest in women's basketball. My own home message board does have a women's section but it doesn't get a ton of activity. I like coming here to read and follow games of other teams.

Congrats to Baylor and best wishes to Cox for a full recovery. Reminds me of when Kevin Ware went down with a severe leg injury in Louisville's run to the championship several years ago, even though his happened before the champ game. Still it gave the team someone to really rally for the rest of the tourney.
 
Undercovervol said:
Arike has hit a ton of clutch shots in her career. She'll go down as ND's greatest player. It's unfortunate her career ended like it did. Yes, I know this is a UConn board. But still.
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There's nothing unfortunate about it. I could watch her brick that free throw every day for the rest of my life.
 
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donalddoowop said:
Some people thought that about UConn's team last season.
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1) UConn was not defending champs.
2) UConn went undefeated and cruised through the opening rounds, losing in OT on a buzzer beater.

ND had 3 regular season losses, and then almost got blowed out if not for Cox's injury. They under achieved in multiple dimensions.
 
hoopsfan22 said:
You could say the same about this year's team. From an outside perspective, you look at UConn having 3 #1 players in the starting lineup, plus the #1 PG from her class, and then Collier with ONO coming off the bench. The first six players were top 10 recruits, and four of them in the top 3. If I just looked at that on paper I'd expect that team to be even more dominant than the Stewie teams.
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DeeHusky said:
Who else besides Oregon & Baylor is championship good next year?
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Oregon is losing 2 of the top six, Baylor 2 starters and unfortunately for them it appears Cox also.
 
If Cox weren't injured they would've lost by a larger margin...probably. Woulda, shoulda, coulda.
I thought it was certain OT game with Arike at the line. She'll remember that miss more than the make last year...which is sad.
 
vowelguy said:
1) UConn was not defending champs.
2) UConn went undefeated and cruised through the opening rounds, losing in OT on a buzzer beater.

ND had 3 regular season losses, and then almost got blowed out if not for Cox's injury. They under achieved in multiple dimensions.
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What does your reply have to do with my post? Being defending champs had nothing to do with the expectations. Some supposed sports experts said that the other teams better beat UConn in 2017 because they were going to be the team to beat in 2018.
 
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DeeHusky said:
Who else besides Oregon & Baylor is championship good next year?
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With the transfers going to different teams, it's hard to tell who the other teams will be. Even if Cox plays next season, they will not be as effective as this season. The main thing that made them so effective, their height, will be missing next season. Cox is not as effective a player without Brown.
 
Undercovervol said:
If Cox weren't injured they would've lost by a larger margin...probably. Woulda, shoulda, coulda.
I thought it was certain OT game with Arike at the line. She'll remember that miss more than the make last year...which is sad.
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I am very curious what they find. Pray it isn't ACL. If its something major it puts next year at complete jeopardy. Smith and Egbo though will be counted on heavily this offseason to develop. I am also looking forward to seeing Decosta who has shined in her limited minutes back from injury.
 
donalddoowop said:
With the transfers going to different teams, it's hard to tell who the other teams will be. Even if Cox plays next season, they will not be as effective as this season. The main thing that made them so effective, their height, will be missing next season. Cox is not as effective a player without Brown.
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Not with Baylor on the scene. many thought they would be as good as they were.
 
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nwhoopfan said:
Notre Dame shot 15 FTs in the second half to Baylor's ZERO! How can you possibly call that well reffed?
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there are special rules for the lime green team, look at last year's final 4 the stored team pushed them across the finish line almost the same here
 
SECbbfan24 said:
I am very curious what they find. Pray it isn't ACL. If its something major it puts next year at complete jeopardy. Smith and Egbo though will be counted on heavily this offseason to develop. I am also looking forward to seeing Decosta who has shined in her limited minutes back from injury.
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If it turns out to be ACL, I am predicting a timely transfer. (Welcome to Baylor, Dre'una Edwards.)
 
Undercovervol said:
If Cox weren't injured they would've lost by a larger margin...probably. Woulda, shoulda, coulda.
I thought it was certain OT game with Arike at the line. She'll remember that miss more than the make last year...which is sad.
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Not sad at all. I hope she does!
 
Notre Dame is very fallible. I was surprised to see a few UConn fans call the game for ND with a few minutes left. Too many fans give ND too much credit. ND seems to often play their best when they are behind, but once they were even with Baylor they started to get tight and shots didn't drop. Certainly ND can't be happy with losing this game, but since they beat UConn, they are probably satisfied.
 
Nick Pignatello said:
Oregon is losing 2 of the top six, Baylor 2 starters and unfortunately for them it appears Cox also.
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Oregon has Ionescu, Hebard, Sabally sisters, Yaeger, Chavez, Giomi all returning. Baylor has Cox, Smith, Landrum, Richards, Ursin, Egbo, Decosta, Scott-Grayson, etc, and incoming freshmen. You still don’t think so?
 
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