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I'm not sure what you mean by the bold in totality. I think I do but not sure. I can see AZ play "guard-like" for a big. But imo there is no way no way no way Geno is going let a 6'6 player not work quite a bit on her inside game UNLESS the 6'6 player is like a "Magic Johnson" or shoots like Katie Lou/ Delle Donne. I don't think she shoots like either. As a result, when there are times as Geno has said about Lou that her shot isn't falling - what can she do? AZ if playing a guard would let the other team off the hook. There is no way IMO Geno is going ot let her do that. IMO Geno "toughens" players. OFC he'll want AZ to shoot from the outside but also she is 6'6 and long. He'll want her to play very well on the inside too. For example, I think she can be a very good offensive rebounder. How many times do we hear Geno say last year "I'd like to see us get more offensive rebounds." IMO AZ's growth as a player will come a lot from how well she can finish inside and rebound inside. We already know she can shoot the ball. For a player like AZ's talent- Geno will not pigeon-hole her to just being a perimeter player with the type of size and athleticism she has. He''ll want her to play tough and that will mean also being a force in the paint.

In my opinion Coach Auriemma is going to use Stevens in the same way he used Stewart.
 
I don't think Collier played out of position at all. Also think Gabby is more of a wing/forward than guard. Not a great ball-handler, not a shooter.

IMO ofc she did. There were reason why she was in foul trouble a lot vs the eltie teams because she was forced to guard consistently more taller players. Collier is a forward that was forced to play against big centers.

Just because she was able to counter it due to her offense doesn't mean defensively that she wasn't playing out of position. The games against Texas and Miss State size really hurt because a player such as Collier was out of position. Notre Dame tried to expose Collier for a reason - because she is smaller. She got into foul trouble vs the bigs such as vs Baylor or ND because she is small. Even inside when you give her the ball to her back ot the basket- she committed offensive fouls to put herself in foul trouble - because she was an "out-of-position" low post who needed to put the ball on the floor inside as a result she could pick up cheap fouls that way too. Though I realize big centers could pick up cheap low post fouls too.
 
In my opinion Coach Auriemma is going to use Stevens in the same way he used Stewart.

Yes I agree. Inside and out. What I picture about Stewie is the MD game in her junior year. MD hung around. And late UCONN went inside to Stewie a lot. In order for UCONN to do that in a tight game it meant prior that UCONN would have worked on getting her the ball in those situations in the post. SO IMO there will be many games to start they focus on getting AZ the ball inside.
 
Bill Russell would tell you Statistics are for losers, the only stat is whether you win, and Bill won in College, Olympics, and the NBA.

That's because in Bill Russell's time they had no clue how a defensive player could be evluated. And as another poster cited- the very thing he slams - is the very thing why he is regarded as an all-time great-- it's his winning. That's a statistic.

Nowadays they would have measured his defensive impact. They wouldn't have played him an average of 45 minutes a season (another stat). Bill Russell TELLS everyone that he WAS a very good offensive player. Yet when we look at his stats nowadays -- he wasn't. But when we DIG DEEPER INTO THE STATS we see that when we compare him vs others of his era -- he certainly was. WE KNOW for a center - he was a terrific passer. We KNOW all of this because we USE stats. So rather than just blindly take someone's word for it -we know this because of stats.

We know for example that Russell was super-great defensively not just because you or others say-so- but we look at the stats. Before Russell came to the Celts their defense was ranked 6th. The moment he came to the Celts their defense "magically" rose to 1st. In his 1st 11 years the Celts defense was 1st in the NBA. Year 12 of Russell's career it was 2nd, then year 13 back to 1st. THE YEAR BEFORE RUSSELL CAME TO CLETS THEY"RE DEFENSE WAS 6th. THE YEAR AFTER HE LEFT IT WAS RANKED 8th. These stats imo prove that Russell "changed the game" within his era. There are other stats too. There's reason why teams employ their own stat departments. There are reason why we know some teams aren't good ft shooters or outside shooters. Coaches use stats to help their players improve their games.
 
I don't think Collier played out of position at all. Also think Gabby is more of a wing/forward than guard. Not a great ball-handler, not a shooter.
Both Gabby and Napheesa played out of position last year primarily because neither has the size or build to defend full time in the post. The fact that both had AA seasons playing in the post is a tribute to their greatness and the UCONN staff ability to develop players well beyond the skills they came into college with. Simply put I am not sure Gabby or Napheesa would be AA at anyplace besides UCONN regardless of the position each played. Speaking of those two, realistic chance of keeping DPOY award in UCONN house for 4 consecutive years by the time Napheesa graduates.
 
Z can do some fabulous offensive things but she is not a great player yet. Now maybe she can learn how. Wilson took her lunch money when their teams played each other. That can't happen anymore.

One of the many things we will get to see-- obviously, Geno saw a replay of Aja eating Z's lunch (hope it wasn't an expensive lunch)--and told her where her weakest point (s) happened to be--another fun event we must anticipate.
 
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That's because in Bill Russell's time they had no clue how a defensive player could be evluated. And as another poster cited- the very thing he slams - is the very thing why he is regarded as an all-time great-- it's his winning. That's a statistic.

Nowadays they would have measured his defensive impact. They wouldn't have played him an average of 45 minutes a season (another stat). Bill Russell TELLS everyone that he WAS a very good offensive player. Yet when we look at his stats nowadays -- he wasn't. But when we DIG DEEPER INTO THE STATS we see that when we compare him vs others of his era -- he certainly was. WE KNOW for a center - he was a terrific passer. We KNOW all of this because we USE stats. So rather than just blindly take someone's word for it -we know this because of stats.

We know for example that Russell was super-great defensively not just because you or others say-so- but we look at the stats. Before Russell came to the Celts their defense was ranked 6th. The moment he came to the Celts their defense "magically" rose to 1st. In his 1st 11 years the Celts defense was 1st in the NBA. Year 12 of Russell's career it was 2nd, then year 13 back to 1st. THE YEAR BEFORE RUSSELL CAME TO CLETS THEY"RE DEFENSE WAS 6th. THE YEAR AFTER HE LEFT IT WAS RANKED 8th. These stats imo prove that Russell "changed the game" within his era. There are other stats too. There's reason why teams employ their own stat departments. There are reason why we know some teams aren't good ft shooters or outside shooters. Coaches use stats to help their players improve their games.

As a human Bill Russell had flaws---none that i saw--Stats are wonderful, but not for me. Bill Russell to me --was a pleasure, plain pleasure to watch him, see him and especially listen to his characterization of the Game--my world if full of favorites--and Bill is right there on TOP.
When Bill spoke--an educated MAN spoke--
 
I don't think Collier played out of position at all. Also think Gabby is more of a wing/forward than guard. Not a great ball-handler, not a shooter.
Big difference between a wing and a power forward or center, particularly in the pros. Gabby and Pheesa can get away with playing the 4 or 5 in college because of their athleticism and talent. In the pros they are both wings at best. Each will have to work on their handle and outside shooting in order to make that transition, which I personally am confident they will do.
 
RockyMTblue2- - - I think Azura will be feeling the usual pressure of having "to live up to" perform UP TO the UConn Huskies WBB standard of play! Once her natural athletic ability kicks in, she'll be fine, better than fine she'll be great!
Having watched her play at Duke several times she's a special athlete! With the help of the best coaching staff in WCBB and her team mates she'll be a quick study and fit in like many of UConn's greats have done!

You again NAILED-IT--Azura as she appears her first time--may feel a twinge of expectation from her self, coach and Fans. But kids like her, who played lots of ball--especially in Hall of Crazies--the butterfly shall soon flutter away.
 
I'm not sure what you mean by the bold in totality. I think I do but not sure. I can see AZ play "guard-like" for a big. But imo there is no way no way no way Geno is going let a 6'6 player not work quite a bit on her inside game UNLESS the 6'6 player is like a "Magic Johnson" or shoots like Katie Lou/ Delle Donne. I don't think she shoots like either. As a result, when there are times as Geno has said about Lou that her shot isn't falling - what can she do? AZ if playing a guard would let the other team off the hook. There is no way IMO Geno is going ot let her do that. IMO Geno "toughens" players. OFC he'll want AZ to shoot from the outside but also she is 6'6 and long. He'll want her to play very well on the inside too. For example, I think she can be a very good offensive rebounder. How many times do we hear Geno say last year "I'd like to see us get more offensive rebounds." IMO AZ's growth as a player will come a lot from how well she can finish inside and rebound inside. We already know she can shoot the ball. For a player like AZ's talent- Geno will not pigeon-hole her to just being a perimeter player with the type of size and athleticism she has. He''ll want her to play tough and that will mean also being a force in the paint.

Z to me is a lot more like Kevin Durant then she is Karl Anthony Towns. Maybe she'll end up playing a similar role to that of JJ from the Connecticut Sun, but I think if you have a player who is 6'6 with her skill set, it's not an advantage to the other team playing her outside of the post, it would be a big advantage to Uconn. If Collier and Camara are used as a 4/5 combo and you play Z at the 3, I can't see any team being able to defend a line up with Z as the Small Forward.
 
All this talk about "Out of Position"
If anything last years team should have showed us, that to every advantage there can also be a disadvantage..
The key is which Team/Coach is able to make the most of each Match-up on a given night..

Collier who I would label as a Small Forward in the WNBA, was placed on the floor both offensively and defensively, where her skillset could have the most impact for that team to be successful.. Sometimes that meant taking players off the dribble, other times Isolating a player down low, using her quickness and beating them to a position for an easy score, (Finding gaps in the Motion Offense) and finally on occasion coming off a screen for an outside shot beyond the arc..

I'm sure we are all aware you don't have to be a "post player" to score in the post, many teams will try to post up their guards if that is the best match up on a given night, having an offense which places the defense at a disadvantage is the typical goal for each team.. and being able to score from any place on the floor with proper spacing and balance..

With all of that said, what exactly is Playing out of position? Teams who are still thinking with that position structured mentality will always struggle against Geno as he is the master at finding and exploiting a teams weakness..
 
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One of the many things we will get to see-- obviously, Geno saw a replay of Aja eating Z's lunch (hope it wasn't an expensive lunch)--and told her where her weakest point (s) happened to be--another fun event we must anticipate.
She probably doesn't eat a big lunch. Maybe she should eat more.
 
All this talk about "Out of Position"
If anything last years team should have showed us, that to every advantage there can also be a disadvantage..
The key is which Team/Coach is able to make the most of each Match-up on a given night..

Collier who I would label as a Small Forward in the WNBA, was placed on the floor both offensively and defensively, where her skillset could have the most impact for that team to be successful.. Sometimes that meant taking players off the dribble, other times Isolating a player down low, using her quickness and beating them to a position for an easy score, (Finding gaps in the Motion Offense) and finally on occasion coming off a screen for an outside shot beyond the arc..

I'm sure we are all aware you don't have to be a "post player" to score in the post, many teams will try to post up their guards if that is the best match up on a given night, having an offense which places the defense at a disadvantage is the typical goal for each team.. and being able to score from any place on the floor with proper spacing and balance..

With all of that said, what exactly is Playing out of position? Teams who are still thinking with that position structured mentality will always struggle against Geno as he is the master at finding and exploiting a teams weakness..
Playing out of position and where Geno chooses to deploy a particular player are two different things. Geno saw something in Gabby and determined that she would be best utilized in the post=pure genius. Genius because at the time Geno saw this UCONN already had arguably the best 3 post players on the same UCONN roster in Stevie, Morgan, Kiah Stokes.
When I say playing out of position I'm mostly talking about defensively. It takes a combination of bulk and size to defend the post on a consistent basis. Gabby is athlete to overcome much of this but not all. For example Gabby can and did out jump Turner of ND and snag rebounds but a sturdier 6'7" McGowan of Miss. State exhausted her and easily out maneuvered her in the post down the stretch.
 
Both Gabby and Napheesa played out of position last year primarily because neither has the size or build to defend full time in the post. The fact that both had AA seasons playing in the post is a tribute to their greatness and the UConn staff ability to develop players well beyond the skills they came into college with. Simply put I am not sure Gabby or Napheesa would be AA at anyplace besides UConn regardless of the position each played. Speaking of those two, realistic chance of keeping DPOY award in UConn house for 4 consecutive years by the time Napheesa graduates.
The high post/low post game UConn ran with Gabby and Pheesa worked very well, with each excelling in their roles, last season. Maybe, with KLS and Z on the wings and Kia or CD at the point, that's exactly where Geno will want them positioned again this season.
 
Katie Lou Samuelson ........... Just noticed her mostly absence and didn't want her to feel slighted. Now that I got that at of the way and in the interest of "thread drift" did you notice our Texas freshwoman Lexi mention Lou along with Molly as the leaders in conditioning drills?
 
Katie Lou Samuelson ...... Just noticed her mostly absence and didn't want her to feel slighted. Now that I got that at of the way and in the interest of "thread drift" did you notice our Texas freshwoman Lexi mention Lou along with Molly as the leaders in conditioning drills?
Yes! sounds like Molly is making more of an impact on the team then most people would expect.
 
I'm not sure what you mean by the bold in totality. I think I do but not sure. I can see AZ play "guard-like" for a big. But imo there is no way no way no way Geno is going let a 6'6 player not work quite a bit on her inside game UNLESS the 6'6 player is like a "Magic Johnson" or shoots like Katie Lou/ Delle Donne. I don't think she shoots like either. As a result, when there are times as Geno has said about Lou that her shot isn't falling - what can she do? AZ if playing a guard would let the other team off the hook. There is no way IMO Geno is going ot let her do that. IMO Geno "toughens" players. OFC he'll want AZ to shoot from the outside but also she is 6'6 and long. He'll want her to play very well on the inside too. For example, I think she can be a very good offensive rebounder. How many times do we hear Geno say last year "I'd like to see us get more offensive rebounds." IMO AZ's growth as a player will come a lot from how well she can finish inside and rebound inside. We already know she can shoot the ball. For a player like AZ's talent- Geno will not pigeon-hole her to just being a perimeter player with the type of size and athleticism she has. He''ll want her to play tough and that will mean also being a force in the paint.

I am so lacking in Basketball knowledge --so many of you are "EXPERTS" --that I am fearful of saying this: (But that has rarely held me back._)

Ask your self--what position in this Uconn team is most lacking in size, mobility, ability, etc??
Which position was played the last year by dramatically undersized personnel
Which personnel were FORCED (too strong a word but) to play other than their natural positions?
Which position if filled by a person of the proper size, with proper skills, needs filling?
How often does Geno use players with the correct skills and size to NOT fill the needed positions?]
Is Geno capable of redirecting desires and skills and re-educating/training to fill his needs?

Answer those and you'll have a good idea where GENO may use her, regardless of her former usage by JPM--whom everyone knows is the most skillful adapter of personnel skill sets. Ok forget JPM, concentrate on what Geno will do!!
 
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The high post/low post game UConn ran with Gabby and Pheesa worked very well, with each excelling in their roles, last season. Maybe, with KLS and Z on the wings and Kia or CD at the point, that's exactly where Geno will want them positioned again this season.

The high/low game has been a staple of Coach Auriemma's offense for the quite some time. From Collier/Williams, Tuck/Stewart. Stewart/Dolson, Dolson/Moore, Moore/Charles, etc.
 
Katie Lou Samuelson ...... Just noticed her mostly absence and didn't want her to feel slighted. Now that I got that at of the way and in the interest of "thread drift" did you notice our Texas freshwoman Lexi mention Lou along with Molly as the leaders in conditioning drills?

Yes. I replayed the video twice to make sure my ears were not deceiving me. It kinda came across as "oh, and of course Lou." As if this was to be expected. How cool!
 
I am so lacking in Basketball knowledge --so many of you are "EXPERTS" --that I am fearful of saying this: (But that has rarely held me back._)

Ask your self--what position in this UConn team is most lacking in size, mobility, ability, etc??
Which position was played the last year by dramatically undersized personnel
Which personnel were FORCED (too strong a word but) to play other than their natural positions?
Which position if filled by a person of the proper size, with proper skills, needs filling?
How often does Geno use players with the correct skills and size to NOT fill the needed positions?]
Is Geno capable of redirecting desires and skills and re-educating/training to fill his needs?

Answer those and you'll have a good idea where GENO may use her, regardless of her former usage by JPM--whom everyone knows is the most skillful adapter of personnel skill sets. Ok forget JPM, concentrate on what Geno will do!!

Has Williams ever played anything other then a Power Forward or Center while she's been at Uconn? It would appear that she started a handful of games at the 3 in her sophomore year, but I would consider her a unique but undersized post player.
 
Z to me is a lot more like Kevin Durant then she is Karl Anthony Towns. Maybe she'll end up playing a similar role to that of JJ from the Connecticut Sun, but I think if you have a player who is 6'6 with her skill set, it's not an advantage to the other team playing her outside of the post, it would be a big advantage to UConn. If Collier and Camara are used as a 4/5 combo and you play Z at the 3, I can't see any team being able to defend a line up with Z as the Small Forward.


I don';t see anything close to Kevin Durant or Townes. But I do see close to Stewie. IMO she needs to learn how to use her size both inside and out. Therefore she needs to work on her great size and athleticism, along with movement without the basketball. In addition, UCONN actually runs an offense which I don't believe Duke does.

I think it would be letting teams off the hook for her to play a lot on the outside. You allow smaller players ot guard her. She doesn't shoot like Lou etc. I see Lou as more of a Durant. I see Az as a good shooter but not a great one. So as you mentioned, would love her to work on being a beast on the offensive boards (if that is what you meant) if she were to play like JJ. I think Gneo will have to work her hard to get like that.

As a result, keeping her as a sf will waste her talents. Because she can be a tremendous version of "stewie" this year (and the next if she stays.). Keeping her at sf allows smaller players to guard her and dare her to hit 3's in which she is good but not great. I'd much rather see Lou taking 3's and a couple of others. Though I do want Az to take 3's too. Just feel she is better served being a socrer inside as well - thus allowing Lou and others more open shots.
 
I am so lacking in Basketball knowledge --so many of you are "EXPERTS" --that I am fearful of saying this: (But that has rarely held me back._)

Ask your self--what position in this UConn team is most lacking in size, mobility, ability, etc??
Which position was played the last year by dramatically undersized personnel
Which personnel were FORCED (too strong a word but) to play other than their natural positions?
Which position if filled by a person of the proper size, with proper skills, needs filling?
How often does Geno use players with the correct skills and size to NOT fill the needed positions?]
Is Geno capable of redirecting desires and skills and re-educating/training to fill his needs?

Answer those and you'll have a good idea where GENO may use her, regardless of her former usage by JPM--whom everyone knows is the most skillful adapter of personnel skill sets. Ok forget JPM, concentrate on what Geno will do!!


I'm not sure where are argument is and why you made this post to me and not the person who thinks AZ should be a sf? I'm the one arguing she will be used inside like Stewie. The other poster is saying she will be a sf. So are you disagreeing with me - in that I think she'll be used like Stewie?

I believe this because I heard Geno once during an interview after Baylor lost to Louisville say if he had Griner, he would have had her also step out from the low post box and make plays / shoot the ball outside of the paint, and not just keep her inside. In addition, I heard at one time one of Baylor's big forwards that played a couple of years for Baylor - a terrific athletic player with not much of an outside shot say she felt like she was playing in a box - and she couldn't move outside of the box. Geno's offense is predicated on movement and versatility. AZ imo will be a perfect compliment because she can be inside and out. He will NOT put her in the box that Kim put Griner and others.

Geno will work on AZ becoming a compelte player. And that will mostly mean I think what you're saying is inside? But she'll also be quite bit outside. We're going to be winning a lot of games by 30-60 points. He'll put players in different positions.
 
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IMO ofc she did. There were reason why she was in foul trouble a lot vs the eltie teams because she was forced to guard consistently more taller players. Collier is a forward that was forced to play against big centers.

I think if you go game-by-game you'd see Collier wasn't committing a bunch of fouls against larger players. Ok, she was in some foul trouble against Baylor. Well, they had one of the largest teams in recent memory. Large and talented. She had zero fouls against a huge Texas squad and was as big a reason for UConn winning as anyone. She more than held her own against the USC giants. She committed three fouls against ND despite going against the much bigger Turner all night, and one of those was an offensive foul when she had nowhere to go after an offensive rebound.

Now, that's not to say you wouldn't ideally have a taller player defending some of the taller opponents UConn faced. But I don't agree with the notion that she played out of position "all year."
 
All this talk about "Out of Position"
If anything last years team should have showed us, that to every advantage there can also be a disadvantage..
The key is which Team/Coach is able to make the most of each Match-up on a given night..
Collier who I would label as a Small Forward in the WNBA, was placed on the floor both offensively and defensively, where her skillset could have the most impact for that team to be successful..
I'm sure we are all aware you don't have to be a "post player" to score in the post, many teams will try to post up their guards if that is the best match up on a given night, having an offense which places the defense at a disadvantage is the typical goal for each team.. and being able to score from any place on the floor with proper spacing and balance..

With all of that said, what exactly is Playing out of position? Teams who are still thinking with that position structured mentality will always struggle against Geno as he is the master at finding and exploiting a teams weakness..

Collier or Gabby played out of position when they had to defend a big center. Why do you think UCONN got so annihilated in the 1st quarter off the glass vs Miss State? Why do you think Collier was so often in foul trouble? Why do you think so many teams tried to attack UCONN in the paint? It didn't work overall - but take a look at that Texas game. We needed Nat. And Nat provided HUGE minutes vs Baylor. Her talent is nowhere near Collier or Gabby-- so why do you think Gabby/Collier struggled so much against Baylor and Texas defensively and got so crushed on the glass in the 1st qtr vs Miss State?
 
I think if you go game-by-game you'd see Collier wasn't committing a bunch of fouls against larger players. Ok, she was in some foul trouble against Baylor. Well, they had one of the largest teams in recent memory. Large and talented. She had zero fouls against a huge Texas squad and was as big a reason for UConn winning as anyone. She more than held her own against the USC giants. She committed three fouls against ND despite going against the much bigger Turner all night, and one of those was an offensive foul when she had nowhere to go after an offensive rebound.

Now, that's not to say you wouldn't ideally have a taller player defending some of the taller opponents UConn faced. But I don't agree with the notion that she played out of position "all year."

Yes you are right. I wish I could find other posts where I included other points as to why Collier was out of position-- though I don't take the time to point them out all the time-- here are examples imo which show why Collier is out of position as a center. And the examples aren't vs bad teams other than 1 - which we almost lsot to them:


1--- For example vs ND at the 1:48 mark of the 1st qtr Collier picked up her 2nd foul because she was on the low post and tried setting a pick for Lou. She shouldn't be the one setting picks for others starting on the low block. She should be getting picks set for her. She’s an elite scorer with some handle. Centers are more “pick-savvy.” In this case the defender got around Collier so she was forced to push out her butt to try to give Lou space. If she is playing her natural positions, she is getting the pick SET FOR HER more than what she got this past year. Being a primary pick-setter increases the odds of a cheap foul. THAT IS NOT COLLIER"S strength. There is more to playing out of position than just defense inside.

2--- Her 1st foul in 1st qtr vs Tulane- fighting defensively for position vs the other team’s center. Then after she had 3 fouls – in 3rd qtr with 5:35 left she picks up her 4th because UCONN needs her in the post. The opposing player flops while Collier tried to back her down for low post position. If she is in her natural position as a forward, she is less likely to CONTINUALLY try to establish low post position thus increasing her odds for a cheap foul. With 3 fouls she was forced to still be aggressive in the post to get position.

3—Below is link what Collier had to say vs Texas and then the coach of Texas also has a comment on Geno's adjustments from the same game. Link below. SO in reading the comments: Why would Collier say "it is tougher for her and Gabby" if playing on the inside was Collier's natural position? Why would the coach of Texas say she had a mismatch with Kelsey if Collier's natural postion was guarding big centers? And secondly why would UCONN surround the Texas center with 3 or 4 players if Collier's natural position was center? : The point is its irrelevant to give Collier an “acknowledgement” that she isn’t playing out of position JUST BECAUSE she didn’t commit any fouls without looking at the context. And in this Texas game, UCONN NEEDED EXTRA DEFENDERS to guard Kelsey because as Collier said "she is small" -- and imo because she is playing out of position. Otherwise why so many defenders needed to guard Kelsey?

http://www.uconnhuskies.com/sports/w-baskbl/recaps/120416aab.html

On guarding the size of the Texas players:

"It was a little tougher for Gabby and I because we are smaller post, so we really had to help each other on the opposite side. I think that really helped a lot because they couldn't play over us."


On Geno’s adjustments:

“I thought he made some adjustments on Kelsey. I thought it was the turning point that we did have a mismatch in there and Kelsey was playing well and we didn’t move for her. You can look at her seven turnover and say oh gosh Kelsey why’d you turn it over seven times but we’re all standing there with three or four people around her and we didn’t move into space and into her vision and that’s where I mean execution."

4: The games Texas and Miss State look at the 1st quarter of both. Texas got NINE offensive rebounds and Miss State GOT SEVEN in Qtr#1. How else can a UCONN team get that badly beaten on the glass with super athletes like Collier and Gabby if they are actually playing in their natural positions? The answer is -- they are small. They played out of position and needed their teammates at times to "Sell out" and help defend the post.
 
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Very glad to have Azura at UConn but "luck" had nothing to do with it. UConn has only lost two games since Azura left HS= a lot of hard work to make the program attractive enough for talented players to want to join.
An speaking of attractive programs Duke with Sophomore Azura missed the NCAA tournament. Duke without Azura not only made the tournament but they also beat #1 (at the time) South Carolina.
Azura also had 18pts, 10rebs, and a couple blocks when she was a Freshman against Uconn with either Stewie, Stokes or Tuck guarding her.
 
Agreed. I have referred to Batouly as a "working man's" Morgan Tuck. She is strong, play's defense, rebounds and can score from 15 ft in, but doesn't have Tuck's all-around game.

Still, for what UConn needs, Batouly will provide solid minutes off the bench either at the 4 or 5.
I am not saying you are wrong, but how can you be so committed to saying this about Camara? When have you seen her play or what pedigree is there to demonstrate this? In looking at her UK numbers, nothing says poor man's Morgan, nor does she have any USA Basketball or other noteworthy awards. This is like the common theme around here for many of the unheralded players with members spouting opinion as fact. We have heard similar claims about Kyla, Molly, Nat, and the 4 freshman. Again where more evidence is apparent, I am all for opinion- Walker has pedigree on so many USA teams as a starter and large minute contributor. Same for Crystal Dangerfield who is again playing on U19. Azura was a strong player at Duke earning all ACC honors and has been on the USA hoop list. Camara is still an unknown and I liken her to the Nat hype on "how well she looked in practice". So while I have much respect for you, this liking BC to Morgan even as a "working man's version" is not evident and Not fair to Morgan who was truly special and not fair to BC to put her in the lofty expectation category. Again, I don't want to come across as a negative, as I am not, I just want realistic views based on apparent evidence and not just in Batouly's case but in all of the players.
For the upcoming year, we know what to get from 6, we think we know what Walker provides, the others are all unknowns with some strong suspicions based on some data. That's it.
 
I think we are all going a bit crazy over azura. Yes clearly she's A talented player at a position where we need the help but I feel like expectations are now thru the roof and into outer space. Someone was comparing her to Kevin Durant ha ha. I'd love to see that 1 on 1 game. Because she had to sit out and it's been over a year of thinking about her it's just gotten nuts. Imaging if she actually struggles her first few game like any other first time huskies. Wow watch out boneyard scrapnel.

Can we dial it down a notch to just crazed excitement??
 
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