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Ayanna Patterson potential National Freshman of the Year?

This is simple. Play ball. Decide all this on the court.

All this other "stuff" is pure speculation.
Fully agree! Let’s shut down The Boneyard!, And all newspapers and sports magazines as well!
 
Of course he also said this

M.A. Voepel: For the first time since 2008, UConn will fall short of the women's Final Four. The loss of four players (through graduation or injury) among the Huskies' top six scorers from last season will be something the team works to overcome. UConn will still be Big East champion, but will lose in the NCAA Elite Eight.
Yes, we lost 3 players to graduation and one to injury,but, the 3 players we just got will more than compensate for the loss of their playing time and scoring. I posted before that Christyn 14 PPG, Olivia 9 PPG and Evina 9 PPG will be replaced by Lou 17-18 PPG, Ayanna 12-14 PPG and Inez 8-9 PPG. Plus Azzi will score 18-20 PPG , Aaliyah 15-16 PPG, Caroline 18-20 PPG and last Aubrey and Dorka 14-16 PPG. I think we have everything covered. Don't forget Nika and her defense. GO HUSKIES!!!
 
Yes, we lost 3 players to graduation and one to injury,but, the 3 players we just got will more than compensate for the loss of their playing time and scoring. I posted before that Christyn 14 PPG, Olivia 9 PPG and Evina 9 PPG will be replaced by Lou 17-18 PPG, Ayanna 12-14 PPG and Inez 8-9 PPG. Plus Azzi will score 18-20 PPG , Aaliyah 15-16 PPG, Caroline 18-20 PPG and last Aubrey and Dorka 14-16 PPG. I think we have everything covered. Don't forget Nika and her defense. GO HUSKIES!!!
We have a good team now, no doubt about it, but what this team can be in March with the pieces that are still available and Auriemma coaching it, is what makes me excited about the season.

One day at a time.
 
Yes, we lost 3 players to graduation and one to injury,but, the 3 players we just got will more than compensate for the loss of their playing time and scoring. I posted before that Christyn 14 PPG, Olivia 9 PPG and Evina 9 PPG will be replaced by Lou 17-18 PPG, Ayanna 12-14 PPG and Inez 8-9 PPG. Plus Azzi will score 18-20 PPG , Aaliyah 15-16 PPG, Caroline 18-20 PPG and last Aubrey and Dorka 14-16 PPG. I think we have everything covered. Don't forget Nika and her defense. GO HUSKIES!!!
We’re about to have some scoring records shattered this year with that 130 per game average
 
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I'm putting my longshot money on Latson at Florida State.

She's not a Morrow kind of longshot, but I think she's going to surprise a lot of people.
I agree. She looked very good yesterday 28 points, 9 rebounds on 10-22 shooting. I can definitely see her being FSU leading scorer.
 
Ayanna reminded me of a young Kalana Greene. Not great size, but a lot of fight underneath. Talented for sure. IF ONLY she could be teamed up with Ice!!!! Heartbreaking....
Having that same thought in mind is why I expressed a similar take 2 weeks ago. Next season we get Paige and Ice back, along with 3 dynamic freshmen who should be able to contribute something right away. We lose Lou and Dorka. Ice and Ayanna can handle the post duties if Amari has not risen the level of her game by that time. I understand the challenges Amari is experiencing, but I'm NOT writing her off. We've only played 1 exhibition game so far. I'm still rooting and cheering for her, and hoping the best for her this year. :)
 
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Yup. I agree. The play on the court will determine National Freshman of the Year honors.
 
Everything will be proven, or not, on the court not in the press
OI agree. All these wild projections are a waste of time. A player has to remain healthy and compete all year. Te awards will follow, or they wont. The important is; who is helping UCONN to become and remain a top team?
 
Having that same thought in mind is why I expressed a similar take 2 weeks ago. Next season we get Paige and Ice back, along with 3 dynamic freshmen who should be able to contribute something right away. We lose Lou and Dorka. Ice and Ayanna can handle the post duties if Amari has not risen the level of her game by that time. I understand the challenges Amari is experiencing, but I'm NOT writing her off. We've only played 1 exhibition game so far. I'm still rooting and cheering for her, and hoping the best for her this year. :)
All due respect, you can't assume anything. Did you assume Paige and Ice would both be lost for this season? Why assume anything about anyone?We would b e interested in hearing from you , however, what you mean by , " I understand the challenges Amari is experiencing." What are they?
 
All due respect, you can't assume anything. Did you assume Paige and Ice would both be lost for this season? Why assume anything about anyone?We would b e interested in hearing from you , however, what you mean by , " I understand the challenges Amari is experiencing." What are they?
My response was to Fairfield's post: "Ayanna reminded me of a young Kalana Greene. Not great size, but a lot of fight underneath. Talented for sure. IF ONLY she could be teamed up with Ice!!!!" I agree with those sentiments. With all due respect, yes I can. I can assume anything. It does not mean my assumptions are correct, but I am allowed to assume and or guess just like any other posters here do. Look at all of the assumptions that have been made by numerous posters after 1 game.

IMO, Ice would have made a HUGE difference for us this year if she had been available all year. If she could have teamed up with Ayanna at times, they would have been a duo that would have been hard to beat. There will be games when her presence and availability would have been very useful. Now instead of 3 post players, the consensus is we have two.

As far as the challenges that Amari is experiencing, go back and read some of the posts and comments written about her the past 2 months. I'm not going to rehash them here. Some of the posters went in to great detail explaining what those challenges are.
 
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Mike Voepel seems to think so. Philippou and Creme picked Kiki Rice from UCLA which is a really solid pick IMO.
Women's NCAA basketball picks, predictions and biggest questions as the season tips off
I think the probability of Ayanna being the Freshman of the Year is a slim proposition. She has energy galore, is willing to mix it up. She lacks experience, she lacks exposure to many other Bigs with substantial size width and height. She's a great Volley ball talent. The big question, not yet tested, is she capable of going against a 6ft 5, 190 pound athletic post? That has to be seen. Kutztown with two BIGs at 6 ft 2 inches wasn't much of a test. She is determined, she has energy, she can score. She had a nose for the basket. All are plus plus plus. Determination, an extra plus. Texas may answer the FPOY question
 
I think the probability of Ayanna being the Freshman of the Year is a slim proposition. She has energy galore, is willing to mix it up. She lacks experience, she lacks exposure to many other Bigs with substantial size width and height. She's a great Volley ball talent. The big question, not yet tested, is she capable of going against a 6ft 5, 190 pound athletic post? That has to be seen. Kutztown with two BIGs at 6 ft 2 inches wasn't much of a test. She is determined, she has energy, she can score. She had a nose for the basket. All are plus plus plus. Determination, an extra plus. Texas may answer the FPOY question
 
Carnac: Of course you may assume. You can't speculate on specific in the rules. But Assume is allowed.
My question is similar to that of the previous poster. What Challenges is Ameri facing that others are not or differently handling? Obviously, ICE and MAYBE the next year Frosh will make a huge difference, and MAYBE Ameri will have a light bulb go off in her head, but that bulb hasn't in 2 plus years. But Maybe's don't win games (unless you are cousin Maybe of Litttle forks, Tn 6ft 8 inches on the HS girls team)
What are the Challenges Ameri faces that you see and I don't? Ameri is fast approaching a Senior year, that year you got it or you don't --no messing around with 4 year Seniors.
 
Janiah Barker by far an away will win the award . She has the best opportunity with minutes and will be the go to player for the Aggies from day one along with the takeover ability . Regardless of any game flaws ESPN will drool over her as they are doing clark right now already starting the campaign as Caitlin Clark NPOY award winner smh . It's like the politics in WBB are just taking turns with spreading the wealth regardless of performance of the individual or the team they are on . Clark is a great scorer but the NPOY .....No , her team has not been a title contender and it looks the same this season as much as ESPN wants them to be . If Iowa wins the B10 Tourney that's going to be shoe in for NPOY for Clark. ESPN knows Iowa's chances of a FF are thinner than them losing in the 2nd round possibly even 1st round.
 
My response was to Fairfield's post: "Ayanna reminded me of a young Kalana Greene. Not great size, but a lot of fight underneath. Talented for sure. IF ONLY she could be teamed up with Ice!!!!" I agree with those sentiments. With all due respect, yes I can. I can assume anything. It does not mean my assumptions are correct, but I am allowed to assume and or guess just like any other posters here do. Look at all of the assumptions that have been made by numerous posters after 1 game.

IMO, Ice would have made a HUGE difference for us this year if she had been available all year. If she could have teamed up with Ayanna at times, they would have been a duo that would have been hard to beat. There will be games when her presence and availability would have been very useful. Now instead of 3 post players, the consensus is we have two.

As far as the challenges that Amari is experiencing, go back and read some of the posts and comments written about her the past 2 months. I'm not going to rehash them here. Some of the posters went in to great detail explaining what those challenges are.
 
My response was to Fairfield's post: "Ayanna reminded me of a young Kalana Greene. Not great size, but a lot of fight underneath. Talented for sure. IF ONLY she could be teamed up with Ice!!!!" I agree with those sentiments. With all due respect, yes I can. I can assume anything. It does not mean my assumptions are correct, but I am allowed to assume and or guess just like any other posters here do. Look at all of the assumptions that have been made by numerous posters after 1 game.

IMO, Ice would have made a HUGE difference for us this year if she had been available all year. If she could have teamed up with Ayanna at times, they would have been a duo that would have been hard to beat. There will be games when her presence and availability would have been very useful. Now instead of 3 post players, the consensus is we have two.

As far as the challenges that Amari is experiencing, go back and read some of the posts and comments written about her the past 2 months. I'm not going to rehash them here. Some of the posters went in to great detail explaining what those challenges are.
I respect you, enjoy your posts, this is not a KNOCK on you or your abilities. As the Poster you are responding to, I don't have the inclination to search hundreds of post to validate a new comment---again, no insult, FACT. Your statement about Challenges seemed to say ---CARNAC knows something I don't know, or didn't see. So, being the spoil sport I am, I wondered what that could be.
Again, Assume away. You have experience and history to back up your assumptions., Go for it. I won't stop reading your interesting post over this, but honestly, I still wonder what are Ameri's Challenges that other players are not having (yes an assumption) that I missed. No insult, no nasty comment intended, just asking.
 
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Ayanna Patterson will not be freshman of the year for the simple reason that she will not be the focal point of the offense. I could see her possibly making an all-American freshman team acknowledgment.
This seems most reasonable for a rotation player.

I just wanna see Ayanna Patterson play against SC's Aliyah Boston!
Me, too... or more precisely against Victaria Saxton. One key element of Boston's game is having Saxton play next to her, someone stronger than most 4s. Not so in this matchup, though.

not 1 for the most probably to win the award . JANIAH BARKER of Texas A&M.
I'm curious about this one. Will Barker start? She looks promising.

The Freshman of the year will be Betts.
This is possible, though my guess is it will be undeserved if it happens. In the FIBA games, Betts was lumbering and slow, and mainly scored merely by being taller. When I compare her to Cardoso, I'm disappointed in what I see in Betts. Cardoso runs the floor well and has good around-the-rim skills. I was glad to see that Betts was more active in Stanford's exhibition game. But I can't see her starting, and is probably too slow to impress Tara, and unlikely to come off the bench before Prechdel.

NFOY is always a player who takes on a major role for their team and almost always a starter. I don’t expect Betts or Patterson to start or be focal points for their team this year unless the players ahead of them on the depth chart experience injuries. My best guess is that Barker/Rice will be front runners. I wouldn’t be surprised if Gray is also in the mix at Oregon. She looked great at the McDonalds AA game and started their first game.
Is Rice going to start at UCLA? I assume Osborne will be the starting pg. But Since Penn left, Rice could start at the 2, I suppose, if she beats out Jones. I like Rice's game, reminds me of Olivia Miles.
 
Is Rice going to start at UCLA? I assume Osborne will be the starting pg. But Since Penn left, Rice could start at the 2, I suppose, if she beats out Jones. I like Rice's game, reminds me of Olivia Miles.
Rice started their first game and had 12/7assists. I didn't see it but I'm pretty sure she's their starting PG. Osborne has always been more of a score first player than a facilitator.
 
This seems most reasonable for a rotation player.


Me, too... or more precisely against Victaria Saxton. One key element of Boston's game is having Saxton play next to her, someone stronger than most 4s. Not so in this matchup, though.


I'm curious about this one. Will Barker start? She looks promising.


This is possible, though my guess is it will be undeserved if it happens. In the FIBA games, Betts was lumbering and slow, and mainly scored merely by being taller. When I compare her to Cardoso, I'm disappointed in what I see in Betts. Cardoso runs the floor well and has good around-the-rim skills. I was glad to see that Betts was more active in Stanford's exhibition game. But I can't see her starting, and is probably too slow to impress Tara, and unlikely to come off the bench before Prechdel.


Is Rice going to start at UCLA? I assume Osborne will be the starting pg. But Since Penn left, Rice could start at the 2, I suppose, if she beats out Jones. I like Rice's game, reminds me of Olivia Miles.
She started last night with 12 pts 7 Assists and played the most minutes 29 of any player in a UCLA uniform including osborne.
 
We’re about to have some scoring records shattered this year with that 130 per game average
Ain't it the truth!! I did not mean that they will score that many points every game. I meant the possibility of them scoring that many points at any given game individually ,not collectively. They are all capable of scoring that many points and more. GO HUSKIES!!!
 
I respect you, enjoy your posts, this is not a KNOCK on you or your abilities. As the Poster you are responding to, I don't have the inclination to search hundreds of post to validate a new comment---again, no insult, FACT. Your statement about Challenges seemed to say ---CARNAC knows something I don't know, or didn't see. So, being the spoil sport I am, I wondered what that could be.
Again, Assume away. You have experience and history to back up your assumptions., Go for it. I won't stop reading your interesting post over this, but honestly, I still wonder what are Ameri's Challenges that other players are not having (yes an assumption) that I missed. No insult, no nasty comment intended, just asking.
Thanks TCC. Here's JorgyG's comment on Amari that IMO is one of the best "detailed" observations on Amari posted yesterday at 9:27am. I can't argue or debate Amari's play or skill set. I've never seen her play in person. I've only seen her in very limited play, and that was through a camera lens. There are a lot of things that happen on the floor that the camera does not pick up.

I would need to see her in person to make my own evaluation. But what I think does not matter. What Geno thinks does. I'll go with whatever he decides. I'm just a committed fan from far far away that enjoys watching this team, and wants to see this team win as many games as possible, and very soon, another NC.

JordyG: "To me clearly Amari is a disappointment for 4 glaring reasons. 1) How and when Geno uses her in the offense, 2) Her effectiveness in that offense, 3) Her effectiveness on defense, particularly the defensive glass, 4) Head down hustle down court.

Once again Geno brought her in for what is essentially garbage time. This time against a smallish D2 team. On offense Geno never used her on the block. In fact, whenever Geno brings her in the game, as last year, he limits the type of offense run. In an almost (almost) wheel type offense Geno would use his pistol offense to get Amari up top and place Ayanna on the block.

This was to use Amari's passing and shooting skills. Amari though is the biggest person on the floor, and it seems Geno still doesn't trust her skills on the low block. Just as last year when he'd place Amari up top and Piath down low. It was my hope that Amari would finally learn how to use her girth and strength, at least against smaller opponents, but that doesn't seem to be the case. We still don't know if Amari has a decent drop step off either shoulder.

Amari did make some nice passes, as last year from the elbow yesterday. Amari also missed her only shot attempt from just outside the elbow. She has yet to show if she can back an opponent down from the foul line and put the ball on the rim consistently. She has yet to show she can roll with authority to the hoop and finish. She has yet to show she can mount effective screens. She has yet to show how she deals with weak side help. She has yet to show if she can move the ball effectively out of the slot. She has yet to show how she handle a hard pocket pass. She has yet to show how she handles passes in the lane in transition.

On defense she again showed little ability to use her body effectively to box out and get rebounds, and she hasn't shown even a passing ability to read the ball off the rim. She has yet to show whether she can body an opponent up and deny them their spot. She has yet to show if she can use her body to move someone off their spot. She has yet to show if she can be an effective shot blocker. She has yet to show how she handles switches off her mark.

Four is self explanatory.

For someone with so many evident skills Amari has shown little evidence of using them. I was very hopeful that Amari would make a sophomore leap this year, and I still am. Amari needs to assert herself in all aspects on the floor. I have some long standing theories about and her doghouse residency that I won't say here. Nevertheless Amari is still real young, and it's a long season. Sooner rather than later her contributions will be necessary and hopefully she'll step to the table and really dig in."
 
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Ayanna reminded me of a young Kalana Greene. Not great size, but a lot of fight underneath. Talented for sure. IF ONLY she could be teamed up with Ice!!!! Heartbreaking....
Not great size?? She is 6'2" (KG was only 5'10") and did you see her base? Her legs are not skinny and she is strong. I imagine she is closer to 200lbs, probably 180-190lbs. There is great size for her height. She will not be pushed around in the paint too much.
 
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I just wanna see Ayanna Patterson play against SC's Aliyah Boston!
With all due respect one can only hope you do not get your wish. Boston is a 6'5" eleven time POY senior in multiple categories. Patterson a 6'2" freshman would be subject to that abuse at lesser programs but we have Edwards and Juhasz as obvious match ups.
Match up two months out, we shall see. Geno will make the decision for sure. ;)
 
Watkins and Betts are not gonna get enough minutes. Both teams are too deep in the front lines
That's why I have them at 4 and 5. I think they will shine in limited minutes.
 
Carnac, a darn good post! Hope improvement is coming. It doesn't look good.......
Too early to tell. Let's wait until they come back from their Phil Knight showcase in Oregon. We'll have a better sample size of 5 games including two on the road against good teams to critique. The exhibition game and this next one won't really tell us anything.

I judge a team by how they play against a team that's as big, fast, and talented as they are. Texas, NC State, and Oregon St/Iowa will be excellent barometers. If UConn comes back from Oregon still undefeated, then I will really be impressed. They played well against a team they were supposed to look good against. How they handle Texas will be the litmus test. :cool:
 
Mike Voepel seems to think so. Philippou and Creme picked Kiki Rice from UCLA which is a really solid pick IMO.
Below are many of the college freshmen and the results of their efforts in their first games. The first grouping is sorted by minutes played. The second is sorted by team name. Some teams have 2 or 3 freshmen with decent to really good first games. I highlighted Patterson for comparison.
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Below are many of the college freshmen and the results of their efforts in their first games. The first grouping is sorted by minutes played. The second is sorted by team name. Some teams have 2 or 3 freshmen with decent to really good first games. I highlighted Patterson for comparison.
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Thanks for reminding me that Raven Johnson is technically a "redshirt freshman" though some on here hate the phrase. Our two true frosh got significant minutes against our cupcake appetizer. I don't expect to see much of them Thursday night against Maryland on the road.

And especially, thank you for your work in putting this spreadsheet together. Would be fun to see it once per week - or month - but no Janiah Barker?
 
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