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Ashley Judd, is that you? Student says UConn’s husky logo is a pro-rape symbol

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I don't recall reading about this on the board.

Not to trivialize such a heinous crime, but seriously...

"In an open letter to UC President Susan Herbst, self-described feminist student Carolyn Luby wrote that the redesigned team logo will intimidate women and empower rape culture."
Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2013/04/26/colleges-husky-dog-logo-promotes-rape-says-student/#ixzz2RaEGNO5k
http://twitchy.com/2013/04/26/ashley-judd-is-that-you-student-says-uconns-husky-logo-is-a-pro-rape-symbol/
 
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Yes, that logo is dripping with Drakkoir Noir and Date Rape.
 
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She doesn't like the logo because..... err... best left as no comment.
 

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As I asked in the other thread on this topic here on the football board, have you actually read the letter or just the mocking criticism of it?

An Open Letter to UConn President Susan Herbst
April 24, 2013
By Guest Contributor

Dear President Susan Herbst,

I write to you today as a UConn student, but more specifically as a UConn woman and feminist. I want to first express my admiration for you as a woman who has made it in a “man’s” world, who has faced the odds and done the seemingly unthinkable; become the first woman president at UConn over the course of its 130-year history. You serve as a shining example that even the most challenging of ceilings can be broken, and you speak to the considerable strides women have made over the last 50 years in academia and the professional world. One of the most vivid memories I have of my admiration for your accomplishments was when Gloria Steinem gave you a standing ovation for your successes, along with a full auditorium of students and faculty, during her speech at the 40 year anniversary of the UConn Women’s Center this past fall. It is on behalf of that standing ovation, my feminist foremothers, and the respect that I feel for your success personally that I write this letter of concern and intervention to you today.

Over the course of the past few weeks, UConn has gradually unveiled its “New University Visual Identity Program” which will make UConn the school’s new “wordmark” with a unified appearance, and will require a change in the Husky Dog logo from its current mascot to a more “powerful and aggressive” looking logo. In your Second State of the University Address, you spoke to the reasoning behind this re-branding and logo change, and these justifications left me overcome by waves of anger and frustration. As a UConn student who is proud of my University’s academics and my future degree, I feel frustrated; as a woman student living at this campus I am outright offended. I am appalled by the selective amnesia these justifications display and angered at the superficiality of this Visual Identity Program.

The updated identity package that will be presented on the 18th, like the wordmark, is intended to show what UConn and our student athletes convey every day: poise, confidence, competitiveness, and the determination to succeed in the classroom and on the field and the court.

The aforementioned was one of the statements made in your address. Here is a timeline of some events that are disturbingly absent from this account of the past year in UConn athletics:

  • On June 21st 2012, UConn Men’s basketball becomes the first BCS school team to face a postseason ban based solely on low APR (Academic Progress Rate) scores.
  • On October 6th 2012, Lyle McCombs is arrested on charges of second degree breach of peace for a domestic violence dispute in which he was, “yelling, pushing, and spitting at his girlfriend” during an argument outside a residence hall.
  • On February 11th 2013, Enosch Wolf is arrested on charges of third degree burglary, first degree criminal trespassing and disorderly conduct when he “refused to leave” a female student’s apartment, “grabbed the hair of the victim and pushed her head” and “knocked the glasses off the victim’s face with his hand.”
  • On March 21st 2013, Tyler Olander is arrested for trespassing in a structure or conveyance while on Spring Break in Panama City, Florida.
These are serious marks against both our athletic program and our university as a whole — marks that, other than a decision made by Coach Kevin Ollie to suspend Wolf indefinitely, have gone unaddressed, unmentioned, and unacknowledged by UConn authorities. What does this timeline say when juxtaposed with your justification? It beckons the question, what does UConn do with marks like these? The answer appears to be: we turn them blue and shape them into something new.

Instead of giving these problematic aspects of male athletic peer culture at UConn a second look or a giving the real face of athletics a true makeover, it appears that the focus of your administration is prioritizing the remodeling of the fictional face of the Husky Logo. Instead of communicating a zero tolerance atmosphere for this kind of behavior, increasing or vocalizing support to violence against women prevention efforts on campus in the face of such events, or increasing support to student run programs that seek to work with athletes on issues of violence as well as academic issues, it would appear that your administration is more interested in fostering consumerism and corporatization than education and community. Another example of this shift in priorities can be seen in the current administrations selection of the new logo — a selection made with no involvement from or consultation with the normal, everyday, non-Olympian student body:

Contrary to speculation, the Husky will not appear to be mean, snarling, or capable of frightening small children! Instead he will be rendered as the sleek, beautiful animal a real Husky truly is.

Well President Herbst, the new Husky logo may not be capable of frightening small children, but the face of real life UConn athletics is certainly capable of frightening college women.

It is looking right through you and saying, ‘Do not mess with me.’ This is a streamlined, fighting dog, and I cannot wait for it to be on our uniforms and court.~Geno Auriemma stated about the new logo change.

What terrifies me about the admiration of such traits is that I know what it feels like to have a real life Husky look straight through you and to feel powerless, and to wonder if even the administration cannot “mess with them.” And I know I am not alone. It is on this note that I ask you to hear these words. And whether you hear me or not, I thank you for the ceilings you have shattered that benefit women in academia such as myself. In the words of Audre Lorde, “this letter is in repayment.”

In solidarity,

Carolyn Luby
 
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I cracked a snide joke in this very thread before reading it. But now I would say that she doesn't deserve the abuse she is getting over this one bit.
 
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As I asked in the other thread on this topic here on the football board, have you actually read the letter or just the mocking criticism of it?

I think almost everyone has read it. It's ridiculous. If she wanted to make the case that they should have been kicked out, that would have been fine. Instead, she made it about the mascot (it's a cartoon dog) and ignored the fact that they both went through the justice system, that both were suspended, that Olander's arrested had nothing to do with the letter, etc. The letter is an embarrassment to the university and the response of some idiots is even more embarrassing.
 

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I think almost everyone has read it. It's ridiculous. If she wanted to make the case that they should have been kicked out, that would have been fine. Instead, she made it about the mascot (it's a cartoon dog) and ignored the fact that they both went through the justice system, that both were suspended, that Olander's arrested had nothing to do with the letter, etc. The letter is an embarrassment to the university and the response of some idiots is even more embarrassing.
No, her point was that the university has spent a lot of time and money glorifying athletics and ignoring, or at least downplaying, the people that have had violent episodes with the women in their lives. The writer is a survivor of a rape; I give her a pass on her perhaps overzealous passion to address the minimization of assaults on women. The fact that critics of her essay say she should be raped means that some people need to be whacked upside the head until they get it.
 
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No, her point was that the university has spent a lot of time and money glorifying athletics and ignoring, or at least downplaying, the people that have had violent episodes with the women in their lives. The writer is a survivor of a rape; I give her a pass on her passion to address the minimization of assaults on women.
I'm sorry, but that is just BS. They went through the legal system, went through suspension and education through the school, etc. She made it seem as though the school did nothing and that is just blatantly not true. It was dishonest in the way it was written. Again, if she wants to say it's not enough, then that is an argument you make the right way, but to then say that somehow the new logo and rebranding promote violence against women and are a way to cover up what has happened is a nonsensical and melodramatic leap.
 

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I'm sorry, but that is just BS. They went through the legal system, went through suspension and education through the school, etc. She made it seem as though the school did nothing and that is just blatantly not true. It was dishonest in the way it was written. Again, if she wants to say it's not enough, then that is an argument you make the right way, but to then say that somehow the new logo and rebranding promote violence against women and are a way to cover up what has happened is a nonsensical and melodramatic leap.
It's her opinion. You've posted yours, which is fine; she should be allowed to post hers without ridicule and threats.
 
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It's her opinion. You've posted yours, which is fine; she should be allowed to post hers without ridicule and threats.
I'm not disagreeing with that. As I just said, I think the response of the idiotic minority (threatening) is even more embarrassing to this school than what she wrote. Ridicule and criticism? Those are fair game when she writes an open letter and posts it online. Especially one that says that a cartoon dog promotes violence against women.
 

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Ridicule and criticism? Those are fair game when she writes an open letter and posts it online. Especially one that says that a cartoon dog promotes violence against women.
I've quoted her letter. Please show me where she says that.
 
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I've quoted her letter. Please show me where she says that.

"Instead of giving these problematic aspects of male athletic peer culture at UConn a second look or a giving the real face of athletics a true makeover, it appears that the focus of your administration is prioritizing the remodeling of the fictional face of the Husky Logo. Instead of communicating a zero tolerance atmosphere for this kind of behavior, increasing or vocalizing support to violence against women prevention efforts on campus in the face of such events, or increasing support to student run programs that seek to work with athletes on issues of violence as well as academic issues, it would appear that your administration is more interested in fostering consumerism and corporatization than education and community. Another example of this shift in priorities can be seen in the current administrations selection of the new logo — a selection made with no involvement from or consultation with the normal, everyday, non-Olympian student body:"

That is a huge point in the letter. She talks about them ignoring the actions of the players (which they didn't... at all) and then rebranding the university to a more aggressive looking logo. They very obvious implication is that the logo and rebrand show that they are not worried about violence against women. What the players did was awful, some of her points are legitimate, she wrote it in a dishonest way that ignores a HUGE part of what happened and the school's response, and tieing this to the rebrand is just absurd. She could have gone about making her point in a much more intelligent way... plain and simple.
 
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As I asked in the other thread on this topic here on the football board, have you actually read the letter or just the mocking criticism of it?

Come on Nan. That is positively unamerican. In a Fox News world , how can you expect people to actually read and consider what someone says before mocking them for what someone else says they said?
 
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"Instead of giving these problematic aspects of male athletic peer culture at UConn a second look or a giving the real face of athletics a true makeover, it appears that the focus of your administration is prioritizing the remodeling of the fictional face of the Husky Logo. Instead of communicating a zero tolerance atmosphere for this kind of behavior, increasing or vocalizing support to violence against women prevention efforts on campus in the face of such events, or increasing support to student run programs that seek to work with athletes on issues of violence as well as academic issues, it would appear that your administration is more interested in fostering consumerism and corporatization than education and community. Another example of this shift in priorities can be seen in the current administrations selection of the new logo — a selection made with no involvement from or consultation with the normal, everyday, non-Olympian student body:"

That is a huge point in the letter. She talks about them ignoring the actions of the players (which they didn't... at all) and then rebranding the university to a more aggressive looking logo. They very obvious implication is that the logo and rebrand show that they are not worried about violence against women. What the players did was awful, some of her points are legitimate, she wrote it in a dishonest way that ignores a HUGE part of what happened and the school's response, and tieing this to the rebrand is just absurd. She could have gone about making her point in a much more intelligent way... plain and simple.

She says nothing like what you are saying she said. She is offended that the school's focus is on commercialization rather than behavior of athletes. I happen to think the two are unrelated, but her statement is simply not what you and others are portraying.
 
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She says nothing like what you are saying she said. She is offended that the school's focus is on commercialization rather than behavior of athletes. I happen to think the two are unrelated, but her statement is simply not what you and others are portraying.
And you are entitled to your opinion. I happen to disagree. And even if it comes down to what you're saying, she still bashes them for not working with teams and ignoring the issues, without either bothering to find out or just ignoring the fact that they work with the teams and have punished and worked with the players. I understand that's not your point in the post, I'm just pointing out that regardless of what she meant, it was either written in a dishonest manor that ignores the school's response completely, or she just didn't take the time to do any research whatsoever.
 
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Come on Nan. That is positively unamerican. In a Fox News world , how can you expect people to actually read and consider what someone says before mocking them for what someone else says they said?

In the MSNBC world they have linked the new logo to the tea party, and Bill Maher has declared the logo to be "crypto fascist".
 

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No doubt this letter and the responses to it have brought out some of the worst in people. Anyone who takes the time to actually send the author an anonymous threat based on it needs their head (and life's purpose) examined.
 
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No, her point was that the university has spent a lot of time and money glorifying athletics and ignoring, or at least downplaying, the people that have had violent episodes with the women in their lives. The writer is a survivor of a rape; I give her a pass on her perhaps overzealous passion to address the minimization of assaults on women. The fact that critics of her essay say she should be raped means that some people need to be whacked upside the head until they get it.

I don't want to doubt her statement about being raped, but the casualness of how she says it makes me skeptical. Like, oh btw, my ex-boyfriend used to rape me on campus, and he just texted me about barstool sports.
 
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I don't want to doubt her statement about being raped, but the casualness of how she says it makes me skeptical. Like, oh btw, my ex-boyfriend used to rape me on campus, and he just texted me about barstool sports.

So exactly how is that not doubting her statement?
 
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