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06029 said:
Bob Diaco last week - "We are interested in collecting players that love football. If you don't love football enough, because you love something else, we're not going to get along. You don't want a player that loves math four times more than football. You need to collect players that love football."

Maybe he loves math more than football. Or maybe he realized that Diaco stopped carrying about him getting a college degree because from the above, football has to come first. .Or maybe the crazy Bob coach speech has been just as erratic in the locker room as it is to the press. Or maybe he loves football so much, that he refuses to play in a system and a process that lacks the understanding about what it takes to win starting at the top.

Does Uconn make employees take drug tests on a regular basis?
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No constant test - pre employment and then only for cause...
 
Whaler, I have no idea if your rant, and it was a good one, was directed at me. My comments on this matter, come from my opinion that the press statement is damaging to the player. Whatever the players / or coach actual reasons for Ashiru leaving? Irrelevant. That should not have happened in the press like that. It's damaging to the kid.

This is an entirely different layer of the onion to address, but one that has been consistent across coaching staffs - the press people at UCONN and the press people covering UCONN regarding football. It's going to take a unique kind of personality and individual to be able to eventually bridge that and fix it, and ironically, I think Diaco is such an individual - what he's lacking is the wins vs. the losses, to back up his words and actions.

I have no fault for any player that might decide to hang up the cleats, at any time, at any level, for any reason, and can walk away knowing they gave it everything they got.

I have no idea why Ashiru and Abrams are no longer on the team. Diaco threatened to clean out lockers himself if upperclassmen players weren't giving full effort, and two upperclassmen players are now gone. That's what I know.
 
06029 said:
Bob Diaco last week - "We are interested in collecting players that love football. If you don't love football enough, because you love something else, we're not going to get along. You don't want a player that loves math four times more than football. You need to collect players that love football."

Maybe he loves math more than football. Or maybe he realized that Diaco stopped carrying about him getting a college degree because from the above, football has to come first. .Or maybe the crazy Bob coach speech has been just as erratic in the locker room as it is to the press. Or maybe he loves football so much, that he refuses to play in a system and a process that lacks the understanding about what it takes to win starting at the top.

Does Uconn make employees take drug tests on a regular basis?
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It's a such weird quote. Although to me, him saying he wants to "collect" players seems the weirdest.
 
Its a big decision to quit - if that is what he has done.
If he is on track to graduate that is a good thing and makes some sense to move on to another school - if he wasnt going to graduate this year big implications.
 
My rant was directed at 'winners never quit'. If that was sarcastic I still enjoyed ranting.

I think you guys are too worried about Ashiru next year. I'm guessing what we read was true and he's really just done. Every year it happens with 4th year Juniors - they just usually wait until the last game.
 
I think maybe some here are reading way too much into it. He had barely seen the field lately, and he left the team. Some kids don't want to stick it out. It happens.

I wish him well. If that means he is playing for a lower level team next year, who cares.
 
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Tayo Ashiru sent an email to UConn athletic director Warde Manuel this week looking for an explanation, but as of Wednesday afternoon, he still had not heard back.

Yep....
 
There are two sides to most stories, and I will be fair, but the words of Mr. Ashiru are far, far more damaging than any of the nitpicking or second guessing criticism that we have been treated to since literally opening night on this board.

If this was HDBD's way of opening up a slot to rebuild, it is extremely troubling (and not something that, to me, is justified just by getting more wins).
 
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Maybe frustration over losing snaps or losing games. No way it's about creating roster space -- that would make zero sense. Does leave a little room for coming back though.
 
huskysupporter said:
Why? This happens on every college football team.
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No. No, no, no. We an argue about the properness and morality of telling a young man that's he's not good enough and he needs to find another school for the following year. But there can be no argument that if you don't want a player back you owe him a truthful explanation.

How can you say that? Have you never been in charge of an employee or a student? How can anyone say at the very least that the truth, spoken calmly, isn't owed in that situation?
 
businesslawyer said:
No. No, no, no. We an argue about the properness and morality of telling a young man that's he's not good enough and he needs to find another school for the following year. But there can be no argument that if you don't want a player back you owe him a truthful explanation.

How can you say that? Have you never been in charge of an employee or a student? How can anyone say at the very least that the truth, spoken calmly, isn't owed in that situation?
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We might be talking about two different things. Are you talking about Warde not responding? Because yes, that is completely unacceptable. I am talking about the screaming by Diaco on the football field. And we both might have interpreted that article differently as far as Coach Diaco's yelling on the football field.

And we agree, honesty is a trait needed if you want to be an effective leader. In business and athletics.
 
And maybe I missed it, but Ashiru's Dad (who I feel horrible for, you can tell in the article how much he hurts for his son) didn't say that Coach Diaco essentially kicked him off the team, did he?
 
SeoulHuskyFan said:
Maybe frustration over losing snaps or losing games. No way it's about creating roster space -- that would make zero sense. Does leave a little room for coming back though.
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What makes sense of anything we've seen?
 
businesslawyer said:
No. No, no, no. We an argue about the properness and morality of telling a young man that's he's not good enough and he needs to find another school for the following year. But there can be no argument that if you don't want a player back you owe him a truthful explanation.

How can you say that? Have you never been in charge of an employee or a student? How can anyone say at the very least that the truth, spoken calmly, isn't owed in that situation?
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I agree with this 100% but I cannot believe that he went from being a solid contributor to someone the staff doesn't want back unless there are issues other than performance. Sounds like they were pushing him hard and his frustration kicked in. "They want me gone" is quoting the player not the staff....
 
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From the article:

"He said Diaco and the coaches were coming up to him at practice, yelling at him, and asking him, `Do you love football?! Do you love football?!' He said, `They want to get rid of me.' When he went back to his room, he told me he cried in a way he had never cried in his life."

I read that as this happened during the flow of a practice. Not that they were coming up to him while he was on the sideline screaming at him.
 
SeoulHuskyFan said:
I agree with this 100% but I cannot believe that he went from being a solid contributor to someone the staff doesn't want back unless there are issues other than performance. Sounds like they were pushing him hard and his frustration kicked in. "They want me gone" is quoting the player not the staff....
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That is how I read it as well. Often times on the practice field, if someone makes a mistake or is not hyper focused (I am NOT saying that is what happened here), a coach or coaches will go nuts, and I have heard many times comments like "Do you want to play!", "Is your head in the game!", or "Show me you want to be here!!!".
 
I read it the same way HS... kid is getting challenged for playing time and the coaches are telling him it's about commitment. with all the baggage of the last couple of years, it's not hard to imagine approaching breaking points.
 
I think Ashiru may have been being pushed hard and became over sensitive and misunderstood the staff's intent.

On the other hand, it may be easy to misunderstand a mad man. Coach needs to reel it in and get down to basics. Teach, condition, strategize, compete. Enough psychobabble and double talk.

We'll know a lot more once we see who leaves in the offseason. I suspect there will be a handful.
 
I don't take everything stated by his dad as gospel, and I think the writer is a hack for taking everything said to him at face value. But if you don't see anything troubling about this, after all of Diaco's talk about not screaming and showing love and care, well, we just have a difference of opinion.
 
Jimmy Serrano said:
I don't take everything stated by his dad as gospel, and I think the writer is a hack for taking everything said to him at face value. But if you don't see anything troubling about this, after all of Diaco's talk about not screaming and showing love and care, well, we just have a difference of opinion.
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What it tells me Diaco breaks one of the cardinal rules of being an effective leader: Mean what you say. He spouts off on the "Peace and Love. Peace and Love" routine, and is in fact doing something completely opposite. How can we believe anything that comes out of his mouth?

I actually have no problem with the yelling in practice when things are not being done correctly. Save peace and love for basket weaving.
 
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Ahhhh screw it - the writer is a Cuse grad!

(I kid, I kid... partly - I'd be pissed if it was my son).
 
Love can be tough, especially at practice. I think hoop has a key point though, you gotta know where the limits of 'pushing' are, especially when the team is fragile to begin with.
 
I think, this is probably the best indication I've had all season long, that we actually have a chance of building a winner.

Jefferson should have communicated with somebody, anybody - a teammate, a coach, a friend, his parents - before letting them fly all the way to CT thinking he was still playing - if I read that right, and if he did, somebody would have told him, to go talk to his coaches, and that if the coaches really wanted you gone, you'd already be gone and have your scholarship pulled.

Sounds to me like everybody got mentally tested, and if one broke, you know more did too. Everybody is going to respond in their own way, and Ashiru did not respond well, there others, that most likely did respond very well. You feel down, you feel like you're screwing up, you may have actually made a big mistake, what do you do? Stay in the dumps? Boo hoo.....or do you learn from it, get yourself up, and go?

You hope, that he learns from it, and Daddy gets out of the way to let him learn, if he can't help him learn from it. WTF is going to the Athletic Director for an explanation going to do?

WTF has yet another idiot CT sports reporter published such damaging words to a young man? Where is Mike Enright? He handles communications right?

Best of luck to Jefferson Ashiru, and I hope he truly learns from this, and finds his way. We have a football program to build back into a champion.
 
The article doesn't refute what Diaco said about the Ashiru situation at all. Diaco said he didn't want to play anymore which probably means play for UCONN.

No doubt Diaco pushed him hard and that is why he quit, but the coaches are supposed to push the players hard no? Do Jim and Geno push their players hard? Just ask Alex Ohriaki and Roscoe Smith and Geno has had a number of players leave for other less demanding programs. Jake Voskhul called his dad after a grueling 2:0o am practice his freshman year wanting to quit because Calhoun was a crazy man.
 
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