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[king conn]

LOL. There is a pretty big difference between producing professionals to the NBA and producing professionals to MLS.

You like college soccer - good for you. Understand there is a reason 99.9% of the population doesn't even know it exists.

A sports popularity has nothing to do with its level of play. If a college sport is producing professionals at a constant rate, its level of play must be pretty good.
Whether anybody cares or not doesn't matter.

 

[king conn]

Yeah the level of play sucks at some professional levels too. Do you scratch your head wondering why nobody goes to NY Penn league games?

No, because I know half of those teams play in towns of 25,000 or so people.
The ones that play in bigger cities? They actually draw very well.

 

[Jimdish255]

If you think last night's game was better than ANY other UConn sport you should consider moving to Stockholm where your cognitive dissonance currently resides.

 

[whaler11]

A sports popularity has nothing to do with its level of play. If a college sport is producing professionals at a constant rate, its level of play must be pretty good.
Whether anybody cares or not doesn't matter.

Yes there is no correlation between level of play and popularity.

Except for the correlation is almost perfect - especially in soccer.

 

[storrsroars]

LOL. There is a pretty big difference between producing professionals to the NBA and producing professionals to MLS.

You like college soccer - good for you. Understand there is a reason 99.9% of the population doesn't even know it exists.

Question for you:

Do you prefer that only 0.1% of the population is aware that UConn has a competitive soccer team with a few championships or that 99.9% of the population is aware of the UConn football program for all the wrong reasons that are making us a national joke?

 

[whaler11]

Question for you:

Do you prefer that only 0.1% of the population is aware that UConn has a competitive soccer team with a few championships or that 99.9% of the population is aware of the UConn football program for all the wrong reasons that are making us a national joke?

I don't define my self-worth by how others perceive UConn athletics. Therefore I don't have to pretend that I give a damn if the field hockey team wins.

Those that need to prop themselves up can find their comfort with women's basketball or field hockey or men's soccer.

Just don't pretend when one does this they are anything but a frontrunner.

 

[gtcam]

College baseball sucks, college soccer sucks, womens BB sucks.......................
I disagree with so much of this but to each their own
it would be so difficult for me to be so strongly opinionated to use a wide brush and paint so many things negative
BTW -the 99% figure that whaler11 is throwing all over the place is total BS - you cant buy tickets to many SEC,BIG12 Mens baseball games
College soccer is huge in the Midwest and west coast and even UConn draws nice crowds - everything is relative

 

[gtcam]

I don't define my self-worth by how others perceive UConn athletics. Therefore I don't have to pretend that I give a damn if the field hockey team wins.

Those that need to prop themselves up can find their comfort with women's basketball or field hockey or men's soccer.

Just don't pretend when one does this they are anything but a frontrunner.

SMH
plain and simple - SMH
WOW

 

[whaler11]

SMH
plain and simple - SMH
WOW

You let me know the reason then why all these people who identify themselves as 'UConn fans' abandon teams when they are bad then.

 

[storrsroars]

I don't define my self-worth by how others perceive UConn athletics. Therefore I don't have to pretend that I give a damn if the field hockey team wins.

Those that need to prop themselves up can find their comfort with women's basketball or field hockey or men's soccer.

Just don't pretend when one does this they are anything but a frontrunner.

Who said anything about "self worth". That's a douchenozzle comment right there. I'm a Mets and Jets fan from way back and now a die-hard season-ticket holding Pirates fan since before they turned things around. I've followed plenty of suck in my lifetime, lol. When you stick with a team through two seasons of Rich Kotite... enough said.

I'm also of the late 70s vintage alumni who recalls when home soccer games outdrew football.

UConn football is not a watchable product at present. Sports is entertainment. Entertainment should be, well, "entertaining".

 

[whaler11]

Who said anything about "self worth". That's a douchenozzle comment right there. I'm a Mets and Jets fan from way back and now a die-hard season-ticket holding Pirates fan since before they turned things around. I've followed plenty of suck in my lifetime, lol. When you stick with a team through two seasons of Rich Kotite... enough said.

I'm also of the late 70s vintage alumni who recalls when home soccer games outdrew football.

UConn football is not a watchable product at present. Sports is entertainment. Entertainment should be, well, "entertaining".

Which of course is my point about college soccer. Almost no one watches it because it's not even remotely entertaining to the vast majority of people.

 

[storrsroars]

Which of course is my point about college soccer. Almost no one watches it because it's not even remotely entertaining to the vast majority of people.

So your self-worth is tied to only those things that are the most popular. Got it.

Enjoy your dinner at Olive Garden.

 

[whaler11]

So your self-worth is tied to only those things that are the most popular. Got it.

Enjoy your dinner at Olive Garden.

LOL - this doesn't even make any sense.

I'm not the one walking away because the team is bad or worried about what the perception of outsiders are. Since I can't impact the results - they don't hurt my feelings.

 

[king conn]

Yes there is no correlation between level of play and popularity.

Except for the correlation is almost perfect - especially in soccer.

Yes there is no correlation between level of play and popularity.

Except for the correlation is almost perfect - especially in soccer.

Again, if a sports highest levels consists of players from college, it can't be argued that the level of play in college sucks. You can keep doubling down on stupid all you want, nothing is going to change that for you.
Your logic says:
The Florida Marlons draw flies, so the level of MLB sucks.
The Nets can't sell out in Brooklyn, NBA level of play sucks
The Whalers left because the level of NHL play sucked
See how stupid this is?

Time for your next twist....

 

[UConnDan97]

Guys, Whaler doesn't want to watch the other teams. There's nothing wrong with that.

Of course the other teams have good players and exciting play that people care about. The womens' hoops team didn't get a multimillion dollar contact with SNY because nobody wants to watch...

 

[Ldandy]

Btw you can like UCONN and PSU.

I also back the Badgers. There really is no conflict. Or ConnFLiCT.

That's just it. I bleed PSU Blue and White. That will NEVER change. That said I can still watch other games and have a rooting interest. I've rooted for Uconn all year, although admittedly I was more neutral when they played Matt Rhule's Temple last night. I get that the product is currently hard to watch. No I don't think Diaco is the answer to fix it either. It doesn't mean things can't get better. Uconn is committed to playing quality FBS Level Football. They can and will get back to that.

 

[businesslawyer]

God damn you all. Seriously. We suck and last night was incredibly painful. Talk about it -- fine. Don't talk about it -- also fine.

But do we all have to see this type of absurd self-centered personal discussions where none of you can ever let go of it. Crap -- how about giving us a break on a painful day.

 

[whaler11]

Again, if a sports highest levels consists of players from college, it can't be argued that the level of play in college sucks. You can keep doubling down on stupid all you want, nothing is going to change that for you.
Your logic says:
The Florida Marlons draw flies, so the level of MLB sucks.
The Nets can't sell out in Brooklyn, NBA level of play sucks
The Whalers left because the level of NHL play sucked
See how stupid this is?

Time for your next twist....

Of course it can.

Elementary school bands are full of future college marching band members. Do people go for the quality of music?

That's not my logic at all guy.

The quality of play in sports is almost perfectly correlated to the popularity of the level of sport. This is impossibly obvious to anyone who isn't being obtuse.

College soccer is not popular because people don't find it entertaining in general. So if you are going to make the case you aren't going to support UConn football because it isn't entertaining - don't make the case you are anything but a frontrunner when you are willing to support other UConn teams is sports that are fundamentally unentertaining.

All that means is that you support UConn teams that are good and don't support UConn teams that are bad.

BTW there are pretty much zero college soccer players at the sport's highest levels. This would be why everyone who want the USMNT to be good someday to move away from the entire system. That's how awesome college soccer is.

 

[whaler11]

Guys, Whaler doesn't want to watch the other teams. There's nothing wrong with that.

Of course the other teams have good players and exciting play that people care about. The womens' hoops team didn't get a multimillion dollar contact with SNY because nobody wants to watch...

Sorry Dan you missed my point. All apologies to bizlaw who nobody is forcing to read anything.... don't tell me you are out because it isn't entertaining while supporing other unentertaining things because UConn is better at them.

Just man up and say you only support the teams that are good.

Women's basketball was so entertaining UConn had so many fans before they started going to final fours. Oh wait - I'm still friends with players from the late 80's and early 90's and nobody seemed too interested.

 

[king conn]

Of course it can.

Elementary school bands are full of future college marching band members. Do people go for the quality of music?

That's not my logic at all guy.

The quality of play in sports is almost perfectly correlated to the popularity of the level of sport. This is impossibly obvious to anyone who isn't being obtuse.

College soccer is not popular because people don't find it entertaining in general. So if you are going to make the case you aren't going to support UConn football because it isn't entertaining - don't make the case you are anything but a frontrunner when you are willing to support other UConn teams is sports that are fundamentally unentertaining.

All that means is that you support UConn teams that are good and don't support UConn teams that are bad.

BTW there are pretty much zero college soccer players at the sport's highest levels. This would be why everyone who want the USMNT to be good someday to move away from the entire system. That's how awesome college soccer is.

Wow
You reach down to 8 year old kids to playing instruments to defend a sports arguement you lost long ago
Then, multiple straw men.
You stated many times that the level of play in these individual college sports suck. Now you are trying to backtrack and imply you were only saying it is a lesser level. Fine, just admit you were wrong. Everybody can see your posts, you are not fooling anybody.

I never once mentioned Uconn football supporting/ not supporting

Here is another clue. USMNT is actually pretty good. Do you know how many national teams there are in the world? And how many have soccer as their national sport? The fact that we are not only making the World Cup on a regular basis and now make the knockout rounds is pretty darn good. Is England doing better? Are they not that highest level you are talking about? There is maybe 6-8 teams we might have trouble beating, after that we can play with anyone.
To be good someday, that's a good one....

 

[whaler11]

Wow
You reach down to 8 year old kids to playing instruments to defend a sports arguement you lost long ago
Then, multiple straw men.
You stated many times that the level of play in these individual college sports suck. Now you are trying to backtrack and imply you were only saying it is a lesser level. Fine, just admit you were wrong. Everybody can see your posts, you are not fooling anybody.

I never once mentioned Uconn football supporting/ not supporting

Here is another clue. USMNT is actually pretty good. Do you know how many national teams there are in the world? And how many have soccer as their national sport? The fact that we are not only making the World Cup on a regular basis and now make the knockout rounds is pretty darn good. Is England doing better? Are they not that highest level you are talking about? There is maybe 6-8 teams we might have trouble beating, after that we can play with anyone.
To be good someday, that's a good one....

Knock yourself out if you want to parse level versus suck.

College soccer is so terrible the entire power structure of the sport wants to eliminate it.

Nobody cares for a reason.

6-8 teams the US can't beat? LOL.

Take your imagined victory and have a nice day.

 

[UConnDan97]

Sorry Dan you missed my point. All apologies to bizlaw who nobody is forcing to read anything.... don't tell me you are out because it isn't entertaining while supporing other unentertaining things because UConn is better at them.

Just man up and say you only support the teams that are good.

Women's basketball was so entertaining UConn had so many fans before they started going to final fours. Oh wait - I'm still friends with players from the late 80's and early 90's and nobody seemed too interested.

Well, I was one of those who cared before we were great, and before most people knew who the heck Bascom was. I was one of those who rooted for Perno's Huskies before I even knew who Calhoun was. Of course, I'm sure there are plenty before me who would tell me that I should have been around for Bialosuknia.

The success doesn't change the excitement of the sport itself (asuming you are at least competitive). But I do understand your point about the fair weather fan. I used to get into the women's hoops games with just my student ID! Good times...

 

[UConnDan97]

Here is another clue. USMNT is actually pretty good. Do you know how many national teams there are in the world? And how many have soccer as their national sport? The fact that we are not only making the World Cup on a regular basis and now make the knockout rounds is pretty darn good. Is England doing better? Are they not that highest level you are talking about? There is maybe 6-8 teams we might have trouble beating, after that we can play with anyone.
To be good someday, that's a good one....

As someone who avidly follows soccer his entire life, I can tell you that your evaluation of the US National soccer team is incredibly off.

6 to 8 teams?? I could rattle off 8 teams in just Europe who are undeniably better than us, and a few more who are at least our equals. In soccer, we have a ways to go...

 

[DefCONNOne]

God damn you all. Seriously. We suck and last night was incredibly painful. Talk about it -- fine. Don't talk about it -- also fine.

But do we all have to see this type of absurd self-centered personal discussions where none of you can ever let go of it. Crap -- how about giving us a break on a painful day.

Well no one put a gun to your head and forced you to read this thread. You want a break on a painful day? Then don't log on to the Boneyard! Sheesh, it's like you want to bash your own head with a mallet and then complain about the pain!

 

[Alum86]

To the OP: If you did not go to UConn, go ahead and now have PSU as your team. If you are a UConn grad, no. UConn is still FBS. It is like having two teams you root for in baseball, both in the AL East. Or just keep it to yourself

 

[whaler11]

Well, I was one of those who cared before we were great, and before most people knew who the heck Bascom was. I was one of those who rooted for Perno's Huskies before I even knew who Calhoun was. Of course, I'm sure there are plenty before me who would tell me that I should have been around for Bialosuknia.

The success doesn't change the excitement of the sport itself (asuming you are at least competitive). But I do understand your point about the fair weather fan. I used to get into the women's hoops games with just my student ID! Good times...

Obviously there are people like you who really enjoy the niche sports.

I'm sure you'd be a fan of the women's soccer team if they were 5-16-3.

But lets not pretend if UConn played even .700 WBB that there would be any substancial fanbase.

I've got no problem with anyone who gives up on the football team other than we can use the support. Just don't try and claim you aren't just frontrunning and supporting teams when they are good.

 

[king conn]

Knock yourself out if you want to parse level versus suck.

College soccer is so terrible the entire power structure of the sport wants to eliminate it.

Nobody cares for a reason.

6-8 teams the US can't beat? LOL.

Take your imagined victory and have a nice day.

Not about caring. It simply was about the terms you don't want to "parse"all of a sudden.

Imagined. Now that's LOL

 

[king conn]

As someone who avidly follows soccer his entire life, I can tell you that your evaluation of the US National soccer team is incredibly off.

6 to 8 teams?? I could rattle off 8 teams in just Europe who are undeniably better than us, and a few more who are at least our equals. In soccer, we have a ways to go...

Ok Mr. Avid. Have at it and name them.
Remember to leave Spain off that list, we beat them in the Confed Cup. And Germany and the Netherlands, beat them last year. Portugal? Nope. England? Nope. Czechs? Beat them 2 years ago.
So go to it.
And please, be as avid in reading the post before you respond. I said play with. I didn't say we could dominate all the rest.

 

[UConnDan97]

Ok Mr. Avid. Have at it and name them.
Remember to leave Spain off that list, we beat them in the Confed Cup. And Germany and the Netherlands, beat them last year. Portugal? Nope. England? Nope. Czechs? Beat them 2 years ago.
So go to it.
And please, be as avid in reading the post before you respond. I said play with. I didn't say we could dominate all the rest.

You think that Spain is not significantly better than us, just because we beat then in the Confederations Cup a few years back??? Then it's not even worth having the rest of this conversation. Honestly, you've named the defending World Cup champion, the defending European champion, and other teams that have personnel far superior to ours. Really not worth having this conversation.

But just so that I hold up my end of the bargain, here are the teams that are superior to us in Europe alone:

Portugal, Spain, England, France, Italy, Germany, Netherlands, Croatia, and Belgium. We would fit in the next Euro pot alongside Turkey, Ireland, Poland, Bosnia Herzegovina, Czech Republic, Slovenia, Slovakia, and Israel. All of those second tier teams would be a threat to win our hexagonal, which we were in danger of even making a couple of months ago, but we're not going to bring that up...

 

[king conn]

You think that Spain is not significantly better than us, just because we beat then in the Confederations Cup a few years back??? Then it's not even worth having the rest of this conversation. Honestly, you've named the defending World Cup champion, the defending European champion, and other teams that have personnel far superior to ours. Really not worth having this conversation.

But just so that I hold up my end of the bargain, here are the teams that are superior to us in Europe alone:

Portugal, Spain, England, France, Italy, Germany, Netherlands, Croatia, and Belgium. We would fit in the next Euro pot alongside Turkey, Ireland, Poland, Bosnia Herzegovina, Czech Republic, Slovenia, Slovakia, and Israel. All of those second tier teams would be a threat to win our hexagonal, which we were in danger of even making a couple of months ago, but we're not going to bring that up...

So we just ignore results. This puts a whole new light on the sports world.

Again, I don't know the level of reading comprehension you have, but I did state twice that we can play with most of these countries and that is obvious. That means we can beat them, they can beat us. If the fact that we beat Spain in one of the worlds most coveted cups doesn't tell you we can play with them, you are right no conversation.
Portugal needed a last second goal to tie us in the WC. England, is that a joke? We lost by a goal to that WC champion that swamped Brazil. Your suggestion of the next European pot is comical. We just finished reaching the semi finals of the copa, with the best of South America competing. We then met Argentina, one of the few countries we can't compete with. Would those South American teams fit nicely in that 2nd pot of yours?
I don't know what is the bigger problem for the sport in the US; the lack of fans, or the lack of knowledge from those who say they are fans like yourself.

But please, forward that resultless system you have to FIFA right away. Heck, our football team could sure as heck use it. We are the best team, send us to the playoffs! We didn't lose 7 games, we have better talent than that!