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Any chance of you expounding on this, all-knowing one?He’s genuinely a bad guy who did bad things here.
Any chance of you expounding on this, all-knowing one?He’s genuinely a bad guy who did bad things here.
Lol, and you don't ever take a position until a thing is decided. Having a backbone is overrated.
Agreed. I think people forget how disgraceful his last few years were. We were expected to dominate the AAC and we were pathetic instead. Then his recruiting went in the toilet and he brought in kids that were projects at best and undeserving of wearing the UConn jersey.Don’t care about the money - if I did, I would be more irritated about the money he took while not doing his job instead of being worried about the money he got afterwards.
He’s genuinely a bad guy who did bad things here.
He can come back when he fixes that. (He ain’t gonna fix that.)
Stuff like this makes it hard for me to completely buy these behind the scenes rumors this board constantly talks about.Agreed. I think people forget how disgraceful his last few years were. We were expected to dominate the AAC and we were pathetic instead. Then his recruiting went in the toilet and he brought in kids that were projects at best and undeserving of wearing the UConn jersey.
Lol and I know yours. You don't take positions until it's decided and then afterwards you'll claim you knew it all along. It's sad, but I have to admit kind of funny too! You see those guys out in the real world from time to time. You know the type who chirp up with a "you know what they should've done"...Laughing I know your act, I’ve been here long enough. You’ll go back and forth on this for the next eight hours if I engage with this dumb . I’ve been pretty consistent from the jump that this was going to blow up in the school’s face. To be Nelson for a second: I was right. You weren’t. That’s how it goes.
If you want to go back and find my posts you can. I don’t care either way. What I do know is that YEARS later you’re still lecturing people on this and no one has been as consistently wrong as you. You can try to make this about having a “backbone” or whatever goofy thing you want to do. You were wrong. Completely. That’s not gonna change. Just accept it.
And with that I’m done with this.
Maybe, maybe not on the food chainThink it was much higher up on the food chain than AD to decided to go the "with cause" route. If Ollie was just fired for doing lousy job it would have been over quick.
It took me about 2 minutes and voila: KO - Victim of discrimination and denied due process? from July 2018. The ruling came down January 2022.Lol and I know yours. You don't take positions until it's decided and then afterwards you'll claim you knew it all along. It's sad, but I have to admit kind of funny too! You see those guys out in the real world from time to time. You know the type who chirp up with a "you know what they should've done"...
I'll tell you what chief, you go back and look through your post and see if you can find one that actually takes that position before the fact. I'd say "I'll wait" but we both know there's nothing for you to find.
Disagree. I think Ollie is still the head coach next year if there wasn't grounds for just cause dismissal.
I hope you mean because they couldn't pay him the $10M, and not because you think the powers that be at UConn actually give two ___ about NCAA violations if they're not a potential lever by which to avoid paying a guy on his way out the door.
Just apologizing to Jim Calhoun would go along way for me. If he did that and then dated his racial discrimination accusations against the university that would pave the way for a reconciliation.
You all can save me with the soap box “he cheated” stuff. Calhoun did worse and was caught doing worse.
Ppl who don’t want him to come back, feel that way because he ran the program into the ground from a win-loss perspective. The holier than thou, “he’s a bad person”, “he’s a cheater” is ridiculous and the same ppl singing that song would be lionizing him if he had been going to final fours and getting one seeds.
I am all for bringing KO back into the fold
(I have a cat I named Ollie in October 2014 and things have gotten awkward)
My 8.5-year-old goldendoodle Ollie says hi
Stuff like this makes it hard for me to completely buy these behind the scenes rumors this board constantly talks about.
We had two bad years. One because of injuries, the other because of a mass exodus.
We had one bad recruiting class. A class that produced an All-Conference player, a Conference DPOY, and a Conference 6th Man of the year. Then yeah, one guy that had no business playing here.
Hell we even brought in elite transfers in Shonn Miller, Terry Larrier, and Rodney Purvis.
Some of yall make it seem like he had this long stretch of terrible play and recruiting though instead of one realistically bad year. Even in his last year he still didn’t have his All American PG that he brought in.
It was more unlucky than disgraceful.
FYI, that's not a prediction of the outcome of the arbitration. Just saying.It took me about 2 minutes and voila: KO - Victim of discrimination and denied due process? from July 2018. The ruling came down January 2022
Do you think that UConn would have fired him that season if he did not commit the violations, lied to the A.D. and lied to the NCAA about it, etc.? I honestly do not.UConn clearly fired him because of performance, not violations.
Lol, I’ve watched basketball for decades and those last 2 years under him almost made me stop watching it for good.Stuff like this makes it hard for me to completely buy these behind the scenes rumors this board constantly talks about.
We had two bad years. One because of injuries, the other because of a mass exodus.
We had one bad recruiting class. A class that produced an All-Conference player, a Conference DPOY, and a Conference 6th Man of the year. Then yeah, one guy that had no business playing here.
Hell we even brought in elite transfers in Shonn Miller, Terry Larrier, and Rodney Purvis.
Some of yall make it seem like he had this long stretch of terrible play and recruiting though instead of one realistically bad year. Even in his last year he still didn’t have his All American PG that he brought in.
It was more unlucky than disgraceful.
I think everything in this is 100% correct. It wasn't just two years—it was under-performing every single year except for the title year. It was not developing players, which is what led to them transferring. It was having no offensive scheme and consistently getting out-coached even when we were healthy. The year after they won the title they scored 44 points in a loss to Yale. A team that played Boatright, Hamilton, Brimah, Purvis, and Facey. The recruiting wasn't just a one year thing, either. The group of kids coming in before KO got fired were not UConn level. If you think we reached rock bottom, you can't imagine how bad it would have gotten with players like Kisunas. And this is after they took more 20 point beatings than any UConn team ever. They got smacked by 40 some nights like we were a MAC team.It wasn’t just recruiting. It was Xs and Os in terms of game planning and in-game adjustments (how many horrific losses did we have?). And worst of all, it was player development. Hamilton, Adams and Brimah made no progress under KO. The staff just completely took its foot of the pedal, and that’s on KO. You’re sugarcoating things.
All that said, that’s just a lack of performance. And I don’t blame him for suing; UConn clearly fired him because of performance, not violations. Fishy is making rather nasty allegations about things KO supposedly did, but unless someone’s going to tell me what those things are, then I’m going to remain in favor of mending fences.
TL;DR As someone said above, multiple things can be true at once.