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Arizona St (19) @ Oregon St (9) - 2/07/20

Who will win this game?


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What the heck happened. Refs were reviewing how much time was left on the clock, but I thought it was ASU's ball, not OSU's. I'll take it, regardless.
ASU inbounded the ball but for some reason Richardson just let it go out of bounds. MAJOR mental mistake and it gave OSU the ball back for the winning play.

Oregon State should just thank their lucky stars because this was a game they should've lost. Took two huge brain farts by ASU to hand it to them.
 
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I told you the Beavs were totally in control. 6 points in the last 8 seconds. Down 60-58. Timeout by Rueck 14 seconds left. Slocum scores with 8. JTT calls TO & Tapley scores with 3.1 seconds. Rueck calls a set play and Kat scores with ,4 seconds but ASU throws the ball out of bounds with nobody touching it so OSU gets the ball and Pivec heroics. Wow.
 
And meanwhile Stanford gets whipped by UCLA on Stanfords home court virtually ending at the same time
 
ASU inbounded the ball but for some reason Richardson just let it go out of bounds.

I think it was Van Hyfte being half in and half out of bounds when she threw the inbounds pass that caused the TO.
 
Log jam for fifth place

Oregon St. and Arizona are tied for 4th, ASU is a game back of them. Can't see them winning in Eugene. OSU-UA play next. Not a log jam at all.

edit--the logjam is for 7th; USC, Utah and Washington St. tied at 4-7
 
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I think it was Van Hyfte being half in and half out of bounds when she threw the inbounds pass that caused the TO.
I don't think so. The whistle didn't blow until the ball had gone out of bounds after the pass, untouched, so no time went off the clock.
 
ASU just wasted an excellent effort with 3 disastrous breakdowns in the final 3 seconds:

1. gave up a wide open layup on a simple cut
2. inexplicably missed the inbound pass, giving OSU the ball back with no time coming off the clock
3. failed to switch on a screen

Can't be overstated how costly this is. ASU needed this win to get back into the hosting picture and that went bye-bye with 3 colossal errors.
 
Oregon St. and Arizona are tied for 4th, ASU is a game back of them. Can't see them winning in Eugene. OSU-UA play next. Not a log jam at all.

edit--the logjam is for 7th; USC, Utah and Washington St. tied at 4-7
It is for survival for decent seeding. Yeah, think what you like after Sunday. I would be more worried about losing Brown.
 
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I don't think so. The whistle didn't blow until the ball had gone out of bounds after the pass, untouched, so no time went off the clock.
Plebe is correct. The video of Tudor's layin shows several of the Beavers pointing at that final and costly turnover. CTT was claiming that Richardson had touched the inbounds pass and the ball should have been inbounded with 0.4 of second on the side of the court. Refs did not see a touch.

A number of observers commented that CTT did not go through the handshake line following the game. I know that the loss was a bitter one for her squad, but you can bet she would have done so if ASU had won last night. She shook Rueck's hand, then promptly left the court. Confirmed by many.
 
ASU up by 8 midway thru Q4. I don't know what it is, but the Beavs just aren't that good this year. They may be playing their way out of hosting in the Tourney.
Oh ye of little faith... I can understand the pessimism based upon the Beavs having held leads in all four of their losses before not finishing well in all four of them. Usually, an 8-point late deficit to ASU results in a loss based upon how CTT teams grind out games. Goodman was clutch for OSU when it counted last night.
 

Another A+ presser by Scott and his team. If you want a great testimopny of a WBB who is a great citizen, student, and player (Pivec), listen to the last 4 minutes of the presser where Scott is rightfully pissed that she is not a finalist. I agree it's a travesty. I can't believe someone will beat her out with a better resume. Impressive woman.
 
ASU just wasted an excellent effort with 3 disastrous breakdowns in the final 3 seconds:

1. gave up a wide open layup on a simple cut
2. inexplicably missed the inbound pass, giving OSU the ball back with no time coming off the clock
3. failed to switch on a screen


Can't be overstated how costly this is. ASU needed this win to get back into the hosting picture and that went bye-bye with 3 colossal errors.
You are being a bit harsh. You do not give Oregon St much credit for good execution, but chose to lay it all on bad Arizona St defense. The only one that was a real brain fart was throwing the ball out of bounds. The last two inbound plays were just really good plays that created two catch 22 scenarios. In the first one Arizona was not expecting a Kat Tudor cut to the basket, but they were defending her against a 3 which is what she usually does. The put a forward on her for the extra length. Kat is one of Oregon st. quickest players so Van Hefte had no chance to stay with her on that play.

The last play was actually set up by the previous one. There was no way Van Hefte could have switched on that screen ( I am not even sure it was preplanned as a screen). If you notice Van Hefte was not going to let Kat get around her this time and the two were physically engaged beginning from right under the free-throw line in. Van Hefte was grabbing Kat the entire way and at the point when you think the switch should have happened she even had her arm around her. If she switches Kat is open for the pass and the layup. Pivek used the engagement as a screen to get open. The Arizona defender was forced to follow her around the screen.

Even if Van Hefte disengages it leaves Tudor with a clear lane to the basket because by then the other Arizona defender would also be behind her. Both scoring plays were brilliant play calls that were well executed. Your analysis is an attempt to diminish both teams. By saying that Arizona played bad defense it also negates the Brilliant play calls ( and execution) by Oregon St which put Arizona into the postition of making "the lesser of two evil" choices.. NIce try!
 
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You are being a bit harsh. You do not give Oregon St much credit for good execution, but chose to lay it all on bad Arizona St defense. The only one that was a real brain fart was throwing the ball out of bounds. The last two inbound plays were just really good plays that created two catch 22 scenarios. In the first one Arizona was not expecting a Kat Tudor cut to the basket, but they were defending her against a 3 which is what she usually does. The put a forward on her for the extra length. Kat is one of Oregon st. quickest players so Van Hefte had no chance to stay with her on that play.

The last play was actually set up by the previous one. There was no way Van Hefte could have switched on that screen ( I am not even sure it was preplanned as a screen). If you notice Van Hefte was not going to let Kat get around her this time and the two were physically engaged beginning from right under the free-throw line in. Van Hefte was grabbing Kat the entire way and at the point when you think the switch should have happened she even had her arm around her. If she switches Kat is open for the pass and the layup. Pivek used the engagement as a screen to get open. The Arizona defender was forced to follow her around the screen.

Even if Van Hefte disengages it leaves Tudor with a clear lane to the basket because by then the other Arizona defender would also be behind her. Both scoring plays were brilliant play calls that were well executed. Your analysis is an attempt to diminish both teams. By saying that Arizona played bad defense it also negates the Brilliant play calls ( and execution) by Oregon St which put Arizona into the postition of making "the lesser of two evil" choices.. NIce try!
Great analysis. I too thought Plebe was being a "plebe". There were 4 excellent plays and execution (3 by OSU and one by ASU) with just 1 excusable mistake with litlte time left that OSU took advantage of. That mistake was not on JTT, but Rueck showed why he is a genious. The presser talked about how prepared the Beavs were for those end of game situations. I also don't think that any of us thought with 3 seconds left, neither Pivec or Destiny would not get the ball and that the tying play would be Maddy to Kat. Once that final mistake was made there was little time to set up a defense and the Beavs preparation and practice allowed for that execution.

I thought all in all it was a great game and although ASU I am sure feels bad, but that team should be proud how well they played at a very tough venue.
 
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Ha well of course the Beaver fans will bristle at the suggestion that ASU screwed up, which clearly they did. Congrats to the genius who just beat ASU for the first time in about 5 tries.

I suppose since Oregon State missed out on beating Oregon this year, this game will have to serve as the highlight of their season.
 
I certainly hope that last night's win does not turn our to be the highlight of OSU's season. The team has bigger goals.

OSU was fortunate to win last night. Overall, I thought ASU played better than it had played during its win in Tempe. ASU shooters made their first four three-pointers and shot very well in the first half, carving up the OSU zone. Thankfully for OSU fans, ASU couldn't close it out and left some room for some last second heroics.
 
Another A+ presser by Scott and his team. If you want a great testimopny of a WBB who is a great citizen, student, and player (Pivec), listen to the last 4 minutes of the presser where Scott is rightfully pissed that she is not a finalist. I agree it's a travesty. I can't believe someone will beat her out with a better resume. Impressive woman.
Rueck is right to be pissed off about The Senior CLASS list of candidates. What a joke leaving Pivec off. Oh well, if only she had stayed later now and then to sign autographs to beef up her "Community Service" , she might have made the list.;)
 
Another A+ presser by Scott and his team. If you want a great testimopny of a WBB who is a great citizen, student, and player (Pivec), listen to the last 4 minutes of the presser where Scott is rightfully pissed that she is not a finalist. I agree it's a travesty. I can't believe someone will beat her out with a better resume. Impressive woman.
Mary Murphy of Pac-12 Network doesn't think highly of Pivec not making the Senior CLASS Award list either.

 
Ha well of course the Beaver fans will bristle at the suggestion that ASU screwed up, which clearly they did. Congrats to the genius who just beat ASU for the first time in about 5 tries.

I suppose since Oregon State missed out on beating Oregon this year, this game will have to serve as the highlight of their season.
Well they certainly played better against Oregon than UConn did. It will be interesting which team goes farther in the NCAAs this year (UConn or OSU). I'm not counting the Beavers out. I also believe they will go farther than ASU, even though the Devils are a good team. We will see.
 
Ha well of course the Beaver fans will bristle at the suggestion that ASU screwed up, which clearly they did. Congrats to the genius who just beat ASU for the first time in about 5 tries.

I suppose since Oregon State missed out on beating Oregon this year, this game will have to serve as the highlight of their season.
My evaluation had nothing to do with being a fan. I gave a simi detailed evaluation of my perspective. You did not. You just claimed they screwed up when in reality they only made choices which turned out to be wrong. In fact, I was actually down on Scott for continuing to play a zone even while Arizona was busting it with their 3 pt shooting. However, he redeemed himself in the second half and those last two calls.

Your statement that " clearly they did " sort of reminds somewhat of a poster on the Louisville site, who confuses fact with his own opinion. You are nowhere near his level, but that statement is a good start in that direction.

Your statement labeling my perspective reflecting a beaver fan perspective actually seems to define your intent. Especially your last sarcastic statement with respect to Scott's genius. To tell the truth, I even initially bought into your perspective until I actually rewatched the clips. In fact, before the .4 second play was run, the announcers mentioned they will have to leave the middle open ( no zone ) because they have to guard against the Oregon 3 pt shooters. It makes sense to guard against a three that will beat you in exchange for a 2 which would result in a tie. My perspective is based on a logical evaluation of visual evidence. Yours is nothing but a subjective rationalization in support of a sought after conclusion.

If you disagree then point out the flaws in my scenario.
 
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