Archie Miller out at Indiana

[UofCT]

Javonte Brown must be thinking wth

why?

 

[superjohn]

If you're Indiana and you've got B10 money, why are you farting around and trying to get the next Beard? Just get Beard, if you can.

UNC was in tough times, they had gone with Doherty from Notre Dame and seemed like an up and comer. And they stunk. So they said screw it and went after the best coach available they thought they could get.

Fit matters, of course, but a great coach can fit most anywhere.

Totally agreed and looks like others agree...

 

[Jbirdp5]

If you're Indiana and you've got B10 money, why are you farting around and trying to get the next Beard? Just get Beard, if you can.

UNC was in tough times, they had gone with Doherty from Notre Dame and seemed like an up and comer. And they stunk. So they said screw it and went after the best coach available they thought they could get.

Fit matters, of course, but a great coach can fit most anywhere.

Not disagreeing at all, I just dont think big name has to be at the top of the list. If you can get brad stevens by all means get him lol.
I don’t know if this is a comparable situation to unc in prestige and the fact that Roy was originally a unc guy.
would someone like beard find this job attractive enough to leave tech?

 

[tzznandrew]

Not disagreeing at all, I just dont think big name has to be at the top of the list. If you can get brad stevens by all means get him lol.
I don’t know if this is a comparable situation to unc in prestige and the fact that Roy was originally a unc guy.
would someone like beard find this job attractive enough to leave tech?

Yeah, they ain't getting Stevens, though if Stevens weren't with the Celtics and wanted to coach college Indiana would be a great landing place.

I think you—and many—are underselling the appeal of Indiana. It's honestly one of the best 10 coaching jobs in CBB, and even that may be underselling it. We lost our top assistant to IU and I believe we matched pay. They may not have won a title since 1987 but they have a brand and caché. Perhaps they might not right now mean anything to recruits since they've been mediocre for so long, but a coach pushing 50 likely sees them with a different sort of lens.

Indiana vs. Tech isn't even close, though who the hell can tell what a coach like Beard—born in GA and hooping in doing college in TX—would actually do?

 

[Jbirdp5]

Yeah, they ain't getting Stevens, though if Stevens weren't with the Celtics and wanted to coach college Indiana would be a great landing place.

I think you—and many—are underselling the appeal of Indiana. It's honestly one of the best 10 coaching jobs in CBB, and even that may be underselling it. We lost our top assistant to IU and I believe we matched pay. They may not have won a title since 1987 but they have a brand and caché. Perhaps they might not right now mean anything to recruits since they've been mediocre for so long, but a coach pushing 50 likely sees them with a different sort of lens.

Indiana vs. Tech isn't even close, though who the hell can tell what a coach like Beard—born in GA and hooping in doing college in TX—would actually do?

In my lifetime Indiana hasn’t held very much cachet, and I’m not young lol. Outside of one final four run they have been solid yet unspectacular. They have had 4 or 5 coaches since Bobby knight and none have come close to replicating that success on any level.
is throwing a lot of money at a brand name guy the key to winning? It certainly is the safest route. let’s see if beard takes their money.

 

[tzznandrew]

In my lifetime Indiana hasn’t held very much cachet, and I’m not young lol. Outside of one final four run they have been solid yet unspectacular. They have had 4 or 5 coaches since Bobby knight and none have come close to replicating that success on any level.
is throwing a lot of money at a brand name guy the key to winning? It certainly is the safest route. let’s see if beard takes their money.

I mean, they tried it twice. They hired Sampson away from Oklahoma and he had them rolling and then got fired for stuff that wouldn't even be a violation now. Then they went with Crean from Marquette and he was doing pretty well. Not great, but fine.

Beard isn't the only guy they might look at. May not even be their #1.

 

[Zissou]

Exactly. The comment makes no sense. Unless there is something glaring, like you know who, the school can't just decide to not honor the contract. They didn't "do the right thing", they did the only thing they could do.

See Pitt

 

[Zissou]

I have never seen a school not honor a contract if it was respected by the other side.

See Pitt

 

[SportsFan88]

Better go after Scott Drew, Beard like I said earlier, or Oats. They got the money, the name brand still, and the conference. You can still win big there with the right coach, I think they can get any one of them 3 with the right offer

 

[Jbirdp5]

I mean, they tried it twice. They hired Sampson away from Oklahoma and he had them rolling and then got fired for stuff that wouldn't even be a violation now. Then they went with Crean from Marquette and he was doing pretty well. Not great, but fine.

Beard isn't the only guy they might look at. May not even be their #1.

Porter makes the most sense to me but we will see.

 

[BigTenFan]

The fact that there are over 100 posts on IU hoops says a lot about Indiana basketball.
Not many college basketball programs make a few phone calls to come up with $10 million to get rid of a coach
Purdue fans are saying they lost 2 coaches yesterday. Micah Shrewsbury to Penn State and Archie Miller

 

[Huskymagic]

BigTenKen was looking to win championships at Indiana. KardashianKen succeeded in finishing behind Rutgers in the Big Ten and missing the NCAA tournament, and now on the road looking for another gig. Way to win Ken.

PS: Indiana would be smart to make a call to the Loyola Chicago coach. He's nearby, local, and a proven winner from a nothing program into a program that people actually know about now. Chris Beard is a good choice as well if he is interested. Musselman from Arkansas is another good candidate.

#SillyRabbitTrixAreForKids

 

[Zissou]

Schools firing 'for cause' look to be blatant attempts to wiggle out of big buyouts

Getting back the upper-hand when dealing with coaches salaries and buyouts should come on the front end of a contract negotiation, not the back.

www.usatoday.com

 

[auggie22]

Schools firing 'for cause' look to be blatant attempts to wiggle out of big buyouts

Getting back the upper-hand when dealing with coaches salaries and buyouts should come on the front end of a contract negotiation, not the back.

www.usatoday.com

So that I was not misunderstood, I did offer that IU example to show that well before they “did the right thing” with Archie, they did the “UConn thing” with Sampson. Buying him out for 1/3 of what he was contractually due as a consequence of violating his contract was an example of what most sane schools would do.

 

[TheChamps990411]

Rumor mill is Pitino to Boston College

Eeewww! He could get something way better than that. If im Indiana id be on the phone to Pitino after his team is eliminated.

 

[freescooter]

@freescooter Why would IU consider hiring a guy who minimally underperformed to failed in his last 2 college head coaching opportunities?

I don’t. Just a snarky comment because of all the DePaul is a sleeping giant posts.

 

[freescooter]

I thought I read somewhere that Pitino has some really bizzare contact terms at Iona that make it almost impossible for him to leave for a couple of years in addition he has a high buyout. He can leave but can’t coach for 2 years or something too. More like a noncompete than a traditional buyout.

 

[Mr. French]

Better go after Scott Drew, Beard like I said earlier, or Oats. They got the money, the name brand still, and the conference. You can still win big there with the right coach, I think they can get any one of them 3 with the right offer

I don't know about the other 2 guys, but I don't see why Oats would leave Bama and the SEC money and his current success on court and on the recruiting trail to go to rebuild Indiana ...

 

[rollskies]

I don't know about the other 2 guys, but I don't see why Oats would leave Bama and the SEC money and his current success on court and on the recruiting trail to go to rebuild Indiana ...

I was kind of thinking the same thing with Scott Drew. He has the #2 team in the country right now it’s hard to picture him walking away from that. But Indiana ties and a giant raise could help

 

[Scot-e]

Rumor mill is Pitino to Boston College

Shoot me.

 

[Brochacho]

No way BC pays 10 million for Pitino. And I don't see Pitino going anywhere. From New York, wants to be in New York, has said this will be his last job. Turns 69 this year. Just doesn't make sense.

 

[superjohn]

None of you guys got the memo that BC hired their new basketball coach a few days ago?

 

[Brochacho]

None of you guys got the memo that BC hired their new basketball coach a few days ago?

Can't tell if I'm an idiot or if this makes me laugh at how little BC matters

 

[superjohn]

Can't tell if I'm an idiot or if this makes me laugh at how little BC matters

Option #2, I highly doubt it even made the espn ticker.

 

[SportsFan88]

I don't know about the other 2 guys, but I don't see why Oats would leave Bama and the SEC money and his current success on court and on the recruiting trail to go to rebuild Indiana ... pats

I don't know about the other 2 guys, but I don't see why Oats would leave Bama and the SEC money and his current success on court and on the recruiting trail to go to rebuild Indiana ...

He is a midwestern dude and the Indiana job is better as the big 10 money is prolly the same and I’m sure Indiana can pay him more, a upper echelon big10 basketball gig is better than an SEC one