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AP Top 25 - Week 16

Irish have challenges ahead this week: #11 Duke @ home tonight (6 p.m. ESPN) and then #13 NC State @ Raleigh (noon-ESPN) next Sunday. They visit Miami in between those two on Thursday.
 
This is an accurate poll. It looks like the top four #1 seeded teams have been determined, but their order might be shuffled during the next couple of weeks.
UCONN should be locked in at #5 & a #2 seed with only Big East games remaining.
SC & LSU will probably be #2 seeds as well. The last #2 seed is a tossup between several teams.
 
jaydee602 said:
This is an accurate poll. It looks like the top four #1 seeded teams have been determined, but their order might be shuffled during the next couple of weeks.
UCONN should be locked in at #5 & a #2 seed with only Big East games remaining.
SC & LSU will probably be #2 seeds as well. The last #2 seed is a tossup between several teams.
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1) rankings <> seedings

2) SC is a 1 seed. They have more Quad 1 wins than anybody except TX.

3) UConn is definitely not locked in as #5. Could happen but right now they are probably #6
 
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Vowelguy said:
1) rankings <> seedings

2) SC is a 1 seed. They have more Quad 1 wins than anybody except TX.

3) UConn is definitely not locked in as #5. Could happen but right now they are probably #6
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Charlie Creme agrees with you. SC's loss to UCONN only moves them to another region, but still a #1seed. The Huskies move up to the 2nd Birmingham region, still as a #2 seed.
But Charlie expects "inevitable" changes.
 
So here we go. I know that AP Rankings are not necessarily seedings. But they serve as a pretty good proxy for seedings. As I indicated, UConn would jump SC & LSU to 5th. The same thing occurred in Autumn Johnson’s power ratings. Yes, something else has to happen, outside of UConn’s control for the Huskies to earn a #1 seed. But the stars are aligning in that direction. Stay tuned everyone.
 
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HuskyNan said:
Probably due to the Betts injury.

The AP needs to establish some criteria for rankings, imo, they’re just too subjective
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I doubt that Betts injury had anything to do with dropping UCLA to 3rd. She played 37 minutes in the loss to USC. The injury occurred subsequently in practice. While her absence resulted in a closer than expected win over #22 Michigan St, close wins don’t get you knocked down in the rankings and Betts is expected to be back on the court soon.
 
These rankings make the most sense to me of any this year, except for TX above UCLA. Texas has a lot of good wins, but lately they've looked ragged to me. And though UCLA has also looked disorganized on occasion, the depth of their roster is just much greater.

So, yes, this is just an eyeball assessment on my part.
 
It looks like the National Championship is really up for grabs...Notre Dame looks pretty good right now, but Texas, and Southern Cal are very strong teams. UConn, S. Carolina, UCLA and LSU could make a run at it, and who knows how it will go down. March madness will really be worth watching.
 
Vowelguy said:
UCLA drops to 3 after a road loss to the #4 team.
Voters be krazy.
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UCLA had to come from behind (by a lot) in the 4th quarter yesterday (at home) to beat #22 Michigan State. Without Betts they aren’t a top 5 team.
 
The top 7 teams have been picking each other off all year. So seems there is less advantage to a one seed over a two seed this year then in years past. Very likely a 2 or 3 overall seed will have to play South Carolina or maybe UConn to get to the final 4. The matchups will be key not the seedlings.
 
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Those rankings look fair. I mean we are discussing minutia at this time. And as many have pointed out, the AP and Coach's Poll rankings have zero impact on seeding for the NCAA's. It wouldn't have been surprising to see UCLA stay at #1, but recency bias, I suppose.
 
All is meaningless at this point. The SEC tourney winner gets a 1 seed. Unless it is a huge!!!! upset. SC, Texas or LSU. The non-winners all get at least one more loss, maybe 2. ND a 1 if they win the ACC tourney. Big 10 is interesting, likely only 1 number 1 seed depending on how the next 2, we presume, USC-UCLA games turn out. Then we could be the last 1, or the first 2, but in any event, we would be playing the same team, just a question of who is a 1 and who is a 2, but whoever wins the game goes on, assuming we both get that far. But for our team, just win it out and don't get complacent, regular season or the Big East tourney. And stay healthy or get healthy.
 
HuskyNan said:
Probably due to the Betts injury.

The AP needs to establish some criteria for rankings, imo, they’re just too subjective
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It's just the human polls and human nature. Something happened, so I should change my ballot. Same thing happens in the football polls.

...and huge recency bias. ND lost to TCU/Utah a long time ago. UCLA lost just last week.

The polls will self correct, when conference tournaments end.

UConn now in a good spot. We get to stand by and watch, while the top4 battle it out in their conference tourneys.

We also get to play new Quad1 team Creighton potentially twice more.
 
MilfordHusky said:
Those are probably ND's toughest opponents, but I think the Irish will win comfortably.
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I guess that was comfortably

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Vowelguy said:
1) rankings <> seedings

2) SC is a 1 seed. They have more Quad 1 wins than anybody except TX.

3) UConn is definitely not locked in as #5. Could happen but right now they are probably #6
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SC will need to win the SEC to be a 1 seed and UCLA and USC are both not locks to be a 1 seed. There is a month of ball left to be played and no team is a lock at this point. UConn has the clearest path to win out with ND being second. Texas, USC and UCLA could possibly lose two more games and that would drop them out too. The picture is coming into focus but not quite yet.
 
Rowdy831 said:
SC will need to win the SEC to be a 1 seed and UCLA and USC are both not locks to be a 1 seed. There is a month of ball left to be played and no team is a lock at this point. UConn has the clearest path to win out with ND being second. Texas, USC and UCLA could possibly lose two more games and that would drop them out too. The picture is coming into focus but not quite yet.
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Even more impactful is the possibility of a single “bad loss.” Both UCLA & USC barely survived on Sunday vs Michigan State (22) and Washington (unranked) respectively. Upsets are likely to happen in the P4 conference tournaments, particularly if you’re facing a bubble team that’s fighting for their tournament life.
 
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