Another Deepster Yard Goats Update

[8893]

When do they break ground on the Hard Rock?

You're just dying to break out your Chess King jacket again, aren't you?

 

[Deepster]

You're just dying to break out your Chess King jacket again, aren't you?

Is it poor taste if I wear my satin Planet Hollywood jacket in there?

 

[August_West]

If that's the case, the team owner has already stated they'd look for another home.

When do they break ground on the Hard Rock?

Its better if its never. The Hard Rock in hartford would have been one of the biggest laughable failures of all time. It wouldve closed in 6 months.

 

[Dove]

Is it poor taste if I wear my satin Planet Hollywood jacket in there?

Definitely not.

 

[alexd]

You're just dying to break out your Chess King jacket again, aren't you?

Members Only jacket

 

[8893]

Is it poor taste if I wear my satin Planet Hollywood jacket in there?

Members Only jacket

Ok, so we all had different jackets. Can we at least agree on Guess jeans? I bought a pair at the Eastbrook Mall that had red leather accents across the top of the rear and the small front hip pocket. They were my Thumper's Nickel Night specials and would be perfect for this.

 

[John]

What does this debacle do for the timeline of an arena replacement? I'm figuring it'll take at least a decade for the stank of this stadium project to finally wash away.

 

[intlzncster]

For some reason the "multiple instances of doors being much smaller than required to match openings" is the one that jumped out at me as tough to pin on anyone but the developer.

This one ain't that hard to get right either. It's really not.

 

[CL82]

also should have mentioned - hot mayor was there that night. We didn't hook up, the time wasn't right.

"Soon John, soon."​

 

[August_West]

"Soon."​

Too stripe'y

 

[Da_Aisijimo_Gou]

Biggest difference is that the Chinese would have had this thing up in under a week. And under budget.

Albeit with funny accounting, the latter has elements of accuracy. For higher end buildings, construction sometimes take a few to several months. Here's an intended, medium+ quality Shanghai building which is always worth a chuckle

 

[EdgewoodNHV]

New Contractor Chosen To Finish Hartford Ballpark; Work Expected To Resume Next Week

 

[CL82]

So how does this work? Who is on the hook for the cost of getting this done. Arch? Hartford?

 

[EdgewoodNHV]

So how does this work? Who is on the hook for the cost of getting this done. Arch? Hartford?

I believe Arch is, but Hartford and/or Eastern League may have agreed to pitch in just to get it done faster. But Arch insured the project, so I believe they are responsible, and the fact that Centerplan isn't back on it indicates to me that they seemingly have been at fault.

 

[Danzz]

New Contractor Chosen To Finish Hartford Ballpark; Work Expected To Resume Next Week

Turner is a huge company. A little surprised, I had heard along with many others that Moriarty was going to get the contract.

 

[Waquoit]

Its better if its never. The Hard Rock in hartford would have been one of the biggest laughable failures of all time. It wouldve closed in 6 months.

At least they would had live music after 11pm.

 

[John]

and the beat goes on.....

Yard Goats, City Of Hartford Argue Against Request To 'Preserve Evidence'

 

[Danzz]

That's not a worker problem. It's a construction manager problem. Worker shows up and is told, "Here is what you are doing today."

A crew that has been together a long time will pick up on snafus like those mentioned, but this isn't a union problem. This is a connected guy getting in over his head because there was money to be had problem.

The buck stops with Centerplan. No one else. Ball parks are pretty easy to build comparatively speaking. It's not like there was a dome. Access was pretty easy, and he had plenty of room.

It sounds like he hired cheap contractor's and cut corners.

"It's a construction manager problem."
This is mostly true. The original construction manager was a seasoned professional but they fired him because they thought they could do it themselves. The schedule was never realistic and they never had enough subs on the job. The original construction manager couldn't get approval to hire more subs. I was told by someone in the business before they broke ground that they would never get the stadium built for this season. Centerplan was always the problem. Same person told me that if the hotel was built it would have been a disaster many times greater than the ballpark. Ballparks are simple compared to a hotel.
Centerplan may have had good intentions and the City has some blame but the truth is Centerplan was over its head from the beginning.

 

[Deepster]

So....it's October 3rd and no one is working on this stadium right now, right? When's opening day? First couple weeks of April? 6 months from now?

 

[Deepster]

From today's Courant. The safest cities in CT.

The 20 Safest Cities in Connecticut — 2016 - SafeWise

Hartford checks in at #91.....of 91 listed.

 

[EdgewoodNHV]

From today's Courant. The safest cities in CT.

The 20 Safest Cities in Connecticut — 2016 - SafeWise

Hartford checks in at #91.....of 91 listed.

Of course the cities are going to be the least safe. It's literally all the cities in the top except Stamford cause poor people can't afford to live there.

 

[superjohn]

From today's Courant. The safest cities in CT.

The 20 Safest Cities in Connecticut — 2016 - SafeWise

Hartford checks in at #91.....of 91 listed.

Lol at 91 cities in Connecticut, there is about 5.

 

[Deepster]

Lol at 91 cities in Connecticut, there is about 5.

LOL at you still defending that Hartford is safe.

 

[DarthGrumpy]

From today's Courant. The safest cities in CT.

The 20 Safest Cities in Connecticut — 2016 - SafeWise

Hartford checks in at #91.....of 91 listed.

In CT, I can see that though Waterbury, New Haven and Bridgeport cannot be far behind. Outside of CT, I'll take Hartford at 2 AM in the north end any day of the week over places like Lawrence MA, Trenton/Paterson/Camden NJ, North Philly, most of Baltimore, a good chunk of Detroit, the south side of Chicago, nearly all of New Orleans, etc.

 

[superjohn]

LOL at you still defending that Hartford is safe.

That's your takeway from my post? Where have I ever defended Hartford as safe? It has it's issues like all cities do.

 

[DarthGrumpy]

Of course the cities are going to be the least safe. It's literally all the cities in the top except Stamford cause poor people can't afford to live there.

Stamford is an odd town. Up until recently, there was a lot money along the shore, then an absolute dump, then the business downtown area, then a mix, and then estates north of the Merritt Parkway. The last 10 or so years has seen that middle section between downtown and the shore almost completely changed with condos, offices, and boutique shops taking over driven by folks who had been priced out of NYC and developers taking advantage of one of the last clusters of 'cheap' land left in lower Fairfield County with good mass transit access.

 

[superjohn]

In CT, I can see that though Waterbury, New Haven and Bridgeport cannot be far behind. Outside of CT, I'll take Hartford at 2 AM in the north end any day of the week over places like Lawrence MA, Trenton/Paterson/Camden NJ, North Philly, most of Baltimore, a good chunk of Detroit, the south side of Chicago, nearly all of New Orleans, etc.

Deepster won't go to any cities at 2 in the afternoon, you think he would go to those places at 2 in the morning?

 

[Robertelamin]

I'm surprised Deepster doesn't live in The Villages.

 

[80shusky]

In CT, I can see that though Waterbury, New Haven and Bridgeport cannot be far behind. Outside of CT, I'll take Hartford at 2 AM in the north end any day of the week over places like Lawrence MA, Trenton/Paterson/Camden NJ, North Philly, most of Baltimore, a good chunk of Detroit, the south side of Chicago, nearly all of New Orleans, etc.

I drove through part of Camden once about 6 years ago for work. There were several buildings that were almost completely collapsed near the river where the brick facades were actually being held up by long 2x4s leaning against them. There were people walking on the sidewalk avoiding the bases of the 2x4s and it looked like if you kicked one out the entire facade of the building would collapse on the sidewalk and street. The entire area looked like it had been bombed out. I don't know if it has changed since then, I hope it has, but I remember thinking it was the worse place I had ever seen in person in this country.

 

[DarthGrumpy]

I drove through part of Camden once about 6 years ago for work. There were several buildings that were almost completely collapsed near the river where the brick facades were actually being held up by long 2x4s leaning against them. There were people walking on the sidewalk avoiding the bases of the 2x4s and it looked like if you kicked one out the entire facade of the building would collapse on the sidewalk and street. The entire area looked like it had been bombed out. I don't know if it has changed since then, I hope it has, but I remember thinking it was the worse place I had ever seen in person in this country.

There has been some recent improvement as some work has gone into the city in part due to the escalating prices in Philly across the river. From what I have been told, downtown between the waterfront (music pavilion, battleship & aquarium) and Rutgers-Newark and Cooper (Rowan U) hospital is OK during daylight hours and the local and metro cops keep a tight lid on the Patco line running through Camden for folks commuting between the Jersey suburbs and Philly; but, the rest is a mess. The big concern is as a result of major shifts in consumer behavior lately, Campbell's Soup, which is based adjacent to downtown Camden could be vulnerable to a take-over. If that headquarters goes should Campbell's be sold, downtown Camden is history.