Angst About Recruiting on the Syracuse Board

[bfs3]

These mother lovers are absolutely delusional! When we Whiff on a recruit do we have posters making up reasons? They seem to do that every single time.... so apparently Mac chose UCLA over SU because Mick promised him playing time and he would have had to earn it at SU.....

These mother lovers are absolutely delusional! When we Whiff on a recruit do we have posters making up reasons? They seem to do that every single time.... so apparently Mac chose UCLA over SU because Mick promised him playing time and he would have had to earn it at SU.....

Yeah we do that too. At least its usually $ubtle. They use that same story for just about every snub.

 

[scuba lou]

That's par for the course for that board. Although there's a large handful of posters who do the same thing here any time a recruit goes elsewhere

I hope we call them out on it.... embarrassing

 

[Goatmeat]

sometimes I wonder why we discuss cuse on this board. Without Carmelo in 2003, they are absolutely nothing. Have not done a thing. No conversation. No issue. We are not rivals because we are far and away so much better than they are. It’s not even up for discussion. Syracuse has money from espn, which will dry up in the next decade and everything will change. Espn is bankrupt and that entire cable tv model is going away. What will not change is the fact that the world does not care about Syracuse basketball.

 

[UconnU]

Can we point out how they thought they lost Andre Jackson due to playing time. At the time, we were going to have a senior Polley and Bouknight essentially playing the 3, both of which were near locks to be on the team this year. They had Elijah Hughes (who had a good chance to go to the draft) and Guerrier (who they were proclaiming was a likely one and done at the time). What am I missing, I would think Cuse looked like a lot more available playing time when he committed (and ultimately they do).

They only go like 7 deep this year lol. Playing time was there. AJ saw the direction the program was heading with an older coach who will be retiring after his son graduates and chose to go elsewhere. When he was asked on IG why he chose UConn he said he liked the direction the program was heading. The irony is that AJ is now used to sell recruits on the direction we’re heading, all 3 of our top-70 2021 recruits mentioned AJ during interviews/articles after committing. I think Diggins says “I like their recent recruits, they have this kid Andre Jackson who was on the cover of slam..”

 

[buddy]

For the one millionth time -- as a fan, how much money the school gets for athletics is irrelevant. No one gets an emotional rush on the 31st of the month thinking about a check that your school's athletic department gets. Money in sports is only a means to an end, and the end is winning. If UConn goes back to dominating Syracuse in athletic performance again, I couldn't give a plugged nickel about whether Syracuse can afford to pay coaches better than us.

A school like Rutgers seems to have made the best of its payday from the B1G. They don't have to worry that the state legislators will defund their athletic department and their programs have improved. Overall, it appears to me that in the long run, the ESPN funded P5 schools will be better off than those that have to scrounge for a payday. UConn basketball may succeed in the Big East, but the athletic department will be struggling to keep its head above water, and that is disconcerting for this UConn fan.

 

[businesslawyer]

A school like Rutgers seems to have made the best of its payday from the B1G. They don't have to worry that the state legislators will defund their athletic department and their programs have improved. Overall, it appears to me that in the long run, the ESPN funded P5 schools will be better off than those that have to scrounge for a payday. UConn basketball may succeed in the Big East, but the athletic department will be struggling to keep its head above water, and that is disconcerting for this UConn fan.

I did not say more money isn't better than less money. Of course it is. But it's only meaningful if it leads to athletic achievements.

 

[glastonbury50]

These mother lovers are absolutely delusional! When we Whiff on a recruit do we have posters making up reasons? They seem to do that every single time.... so apparently Mac chose UCLA over SU because Mick promised him playing time and he would have had to earn it at SU.....

Youre reading a different board then me if you don't think we make excuses when we miss out on recruits lol

 

[navery12]

A school like Rutgers seems to have made the best of its payday from the B1G. They don't have to worry that the state legislators will defund their athletic department and their programs have improved. Overall, it appears to me that in the long run, the ESPN funded P5 schools will be better off than those that have to scrounge for a payday. UConn basketball may succeed in the Big East, but the athletic department will be struggling to keep its head above water, and that is disconcerting for this UConn fan.

Rutgers in a better position than UConn? You almost had me with this troll attempt

 

[FlippinCrazy!]

A school like Rutgers seems to have made the best of its payday from the B1G. They don't have to worry that the state legislators will defund their athletic department and their programs have improved. Overall, it appears to me that in the long run, the ESPN funded P5 schools will be better off than those that have to scrounge for a payday. UConn basketball may succeed in the Big East, but the athletic department will be struggling to keep its head above water, and that is disconcerting for this UConn fan.

If I was a middling ACC school I would be very scared of conference realignment, which I believe is coming relatively soon. Right now, they have Clemson carrying the football conference. What happens when the SEC or whatever new powerhouse conference comes calling and takes Clemson, Miami, and even FSU. All of a sudden that conference looks downright awful at football, worse than the AAC right now. And teams like Syracuse, BC, GT, WF and others, well I don’t think there’s going to be exactly a long list of suitors.

Short story, the ACC as a whole (outside of Clemson) needs to start performing like a power conference fast.

 

[CTBasketball]

20-0 baby!

 

[UCTitleTown]

Bernie's wife is retired, too. Big factor.

I heard she was a super-spreader.

 

[NYtoCT]

Youre reading a different board then me if you don't think we make excuses when we miss out on recruits lol

It’s been so long since we’ve missed on a recruit. I think some of us are forgetting how that feels.

 

[Bobol]

If I was a middling ACC school I would be very scared of conference realignment, which I believe is coming relatively soon.

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How do you believe this wide scale spontaneous conference realignment will occur given the facts that ACC members have granted future rights to their Conference, and other P5 member schools have contractual obligations to their respective conferences ?

 

[FlippinCrazy!]

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How do you believe this wide scale spontaneous conference realignment will occur given the facts that ACC members have granted future rights to their Conference, and other P5 member schools have contractual obligations to their respective conferences ?

I meant “I believe” as in that’s what I thought I read before, not so much as that was my hunch. Don’t the TV rights for lots of the power conferences run out in 2024-25ish?

edit so I did a quick search, I think only the SEC has a long term deal (2034). Big ten ends 2023, big 12 ends 2025, ACC ends 2022, PAC-12 ends 2024. So if there was ever a time for conference realignment...

 

[Palatine]

A school like Rutgers seems to have made the best of its payday from the B1G. They don't have to worry that the state legislators will defund their athletic department and their programs have improved. Overall, it appears to me that in the long run, the ESPN funded P5 schools will be better off than those that have to scrounge for a payday. UConn basketball may succeed in the Big East, but the athletic department will be struggling to keep its head above water, and that is disconcerting for this UConn fan.

With the exception of the part about Rutgers. There is some validity to this post.

I often wonder is the basketball centric posters on this board would accept a invitation to the Big Ten or prefer to remain in the ZBE.

 

[nashusky109]

I'd take Big Ten in a heartbeat if the opportunity presented itself. However, it seems unlikely cause we'll be having to pay the Big East a lottttt of money just to leave.

 

[buddy]

Rutgers in a better position than UConn? You almost had me with this troll attempt

I am sorry but it is true! They are raking in over 50 million dollars a year from the B1G! Would anyone have thought that Rutgers would beat Michigan State and Purdue in football. I dislike Rutgers as much as anyone and feel that they won the lottery with their invite to the Big Ten. But to me they are making the most of it. Even their basketball program is ranked now. Unheard of!

 

[John]

I'd take Big Ten in a heartbeat if the opportunity presented itself. However, it seems unlikely cause we'll be having to pay the Big East a lottttt of money just to leave.

If we ever got the Big Ten or ACC invite, we make it work no mater what the cost.

 

[BParkDog]

If we ever got the Big Ten or ACC invite, we make it work no mater what the cost.

From your mouth to G-d's ears, brother.
We'll start a GoFundMe, which me and Chief will run, and you can put me in for at least 5 large .

 

[superjohn]

I am sorry but it is true! They are raking in over 50 million dollars a year from the B1G! Would anyone have thought that Rutgers would beat Michigan State and Purdue in football. I dislike Rutgers as much as anyone and feel that they won the lottery with their invite to the Big Ten. But to me they are making the most of it. Even their basketball program is ranked now. Unheard of!

Of course they're in a better position in football (basically every D1 program is in a better position than UConn football) and make way more money but they're still 21-56 in Big 10 football and if you're taking their basketball program over UConn you're crazy.

 

[CL82]

With the exception of the part about Rutgers. There is some validity to this post.

I often wonder is the basketball centric posters on this board would accept a invitation to the Big Ten or prefer to remain in the ZBE.

I would. In a heartbeat. Even if building a new football stadium in Storrs was a precondition.

 

[CL82]

I'd take Big Ten in a heartbeat if the opportunity presented itself. However, it seems unlikely cause we'll be having to pay the Big East a lottttt of money just to leave.

Pish tosh, it's just a journal entry. The ROC is too strong to walk away from.

 

[nashusky109]

Of course they're in a better position in football (basically every D1 program is in a better position than UConn football) and make way more money but they're still 21-56 in Big 10 football and if you're taking their basketball program over UConn you're crazy.

His point was not about which school is better in football and basketball. Its about which school is in better position in the long run athletically. They are in a stable conference and only getting better in both major sports. The money they are getting has not only helped the athletic programs but that money is also being distributed amongst their research programs and further boosting the schools status.

I would take UConn 10 times over however, i do recognize that they are in a much better position being in the Big Ten than UConn is being independent in football and Big East in basketball. Money talks.

 

[John]

From your mouth to G-d's ears, brother.
We'll start a GoFundMe, which me and Chief will run, and you can put me in for at least 5 large .

for that I would not complain about vastly more expensive ticket costs and mandatory donations.

 

[olehead]

"Carmelo, before you leave, I'd like you to meet someone."

Gross.

 

[superjohn]

His point was not about which school is better in football and basketball. Its about which school is in better position in the long run athletically. They are in a stable conference and only getting better in both major sports. The money they are getting has not only helped the athletic programs but that money is also being distributed amongst their research programs and further boosting the schools status.

I would take UConn 10 times over however, i do recognize that they are in a much better position being in the Big Ten than UConn is being independent in football and Big East in basketball. Money talks.

That's why I responded of course they are better positioned in football and he's crazy if he thinks they are better positioned than UConn in basketball.

 

[August_West]

That's why I responded of course they are better positioned in football and he's crazy if he thinks they are better positioned than UConn in basketball.

Except they are.

Just from an Athletic Budget standpoint.


That doesnt mean they have a better program, better history, better players currently, or a better coach. Rutgers has none of that over us. But the Athletics budgets of P5 conferences will win a war of attrition over everyone over the long haul.

Could be 10 years, 20 years, 30 years, but a few million a year doesnt compete with 50 million.

 

[superjohn]

Except they are.

Just from an Athletic Budget standpoint.


That doesnt mean they have a better program, better history, better players currently, or a better coach. Rutgers has none of that over us. But the Athletics budgets of P5 conferences will win a war of attrition over everyone over the long haul.

Could be 10 years, 20 years, 30 years, but a few million a year doesnt compete with 50 million.

If it was all about money Northwestern, Rutgers, Penn State etc. would've been better than us in basketball a long time ago. None of them are going to be better than UConn, Nova, Gonzaga in the future.

 

[August_West]

If it was all about money Northwestern, Rutgers, Penn State etc. would've been better than us in basketball a long time ago. None of them are going to be better than UConn, Nova, Gonzaga in the future.

the money disparity is only a few years old. Less than a decade

 

[buddy]

If it was all about money Northwestern, Rutgers, Penn State etc. would've been better than us in basketball a long time ago. None of them are going to be better than UConn, Nova, Gonzaga in the future.

Winning basketball is not sustaining an athletic department at this time. August_West is correct. It has not been long enough for the money disparity to really be manifest. I don't know how anyone can deny that Rutgers is in a lot better position now than they were before the Big Ten came calling.