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@TheRecruitScoop: UConn has offered Andre Rafus - a 2017 forward from New Town (MD).
 
New footage of him. Has offers from Missouri, SMU, UNLV, Maryland, among others. His stock is going up.



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While you guys are correct in that waiting on a 2017 to commit right now is foolish, it's worth noting how much earlier we seem to be getting onto our targets now that KO & staff have several years of working together under their belts.

This doesn't guarantee better recruiting classes. But it should certainly mean fewer last-gasp gambits on kids like Tevin Mack and Chris Clarke, and hopefully more "UConn is my dream school" stuff like what we've seen from Adams, Enoch and Tyrique Jones.
 
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Please... for the love of God... would some of you actually take the time to go back and read the sanctions imposed upon us by the NCAA several years ago? The APR sanctions did not just keep us out of the Big East and other post season tournaments in 2013. We also received scholarship AND visitation AND amount of time out recruiting restrictions.

Any of you who do not already know this either did not pay attention, do not know how to read, or are just plain lazy. And any of you who do not think THOSE RESTRICTIONS have had a negative impact on our recent recruiting are either clueless, or have an agenda to push against Kevin Ollie and this coaching staff.

There is a reason that we are more heavily involved NOW with recruits in the classes of 2016 and 2o17 then we were with recruits from the classes of 2014 and 2015... because WE CAN BE!

Frankly, I expect a bit more brain power out of most of you than I see in these threads. If you are going to have this conversation and you want to take the "this coaching staff is having problems recruiting" mantra, at least be willing to offer up some type of caveat for the importance those restrictions played in the equation. Otherwise, you should just STFU... and then go back and realize how absolutely, ridiculously amazing it is that we got anywhere close to the Final 4 last year, let alone a Championship.

It annoys the crap out of me when people keep pushing an argument but will never give a fully supported point of view that covers the entirety of the defense against them, just because no one brings up. Well, I just did. So... let me see some rebuttals to that specific argument, people.
 
And Matrim55... I think us "getting on recruits earlier" has a lot less to do with the staff working together for several years, and a lot more to do with that fact that THEY CAN... now that the restrictions have been lifted.

Think about it... do some research on just what I am talking about... then get back to me.
 
LStudfellow said:
And Matrim55... I think us "getting on recruits earlier" has a lot less to do with the staff working together for several years, and a lot more to do with that fact that THEY CAN... now that the restrictions have been lifted.

Think about it... do some research on just what I am talking about... then get back to me.
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So childish.

As I've pointed out in several other threads, our recruiting is trending upward for a variety of reasons. One of them is the lifting of the recruiting sanctions which, while onerous, were nowhere near as much of a problem as the general instability around the program from late 2011 through early 2014 thanks to the questions around Calhoun's future, the postseason ban, conference realignment, and understandable questions about Ollie's coaching acumen.

With those issues (for the most part) accounted for, our recruiting appears to have picked up.

In short: My post was a positive one, defending Ollie and the staff. And you need to up your lithium dosage.
 
LOL... thanks, but I don't take lithium, or any other drug for that matter.

I was correcting your point, and a common misconception that has been perpetuated in many threads on here. Our recruiting is not improving because our staff has time together... it is because this last summer was the first time they could all recruit full out, with no restrictions.

If you can't take a correction of your erroneous words, than that is a you problem...
 
LStudfellow said:
LOL... thanks, but I don't take lithium, or any other drug for that matter.
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You should start.

I was correcting your point, and a common misconception that has been perpetuated in many threads on here. Our recruiting is not improving because our staff has time together... it is because this last summer was the first time they could all recruit full out, with no restrictions.
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Two funny things here:

1) You're picking a fight with someone who largely agrees with your overall point (our recruiting is getting better) on a board where the majority seem to think we're doomed.
2) You're claiming that there's one - and only one - reason our recruiting appears to be picking up. You're dismissing out of hand the notion that a postseason ban, or conference realignment, or general questions about KO's coaching ability had/have any effect on our ability to go after and land top prospects.

You're pretty dim. That's a "you" problem.
 
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OkaForPrez said:
How is our recruiting improving again?
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2013: 1 4-star (Facey), 0 top 50
2014: 2 4-stars (Hamilton, Purvis), 1 top 50
2015: 2 4-stars (Adams, Enoch), 2 top 50s

It still needs to get better. I'm disappointed we didn't close on Stone back in the autumn, that would couldn't poach Mack, and that we never really got back into the hunt for Dorsey. But the "we're doomed!" crowd is absolutely wearying given the information at hand and the trendline for the future.
 
LStudfellow said:
Please... for the love of God... would some of you actually take the time to go back and read the sanctions imposed upon us by the NCAA several years ago? The APR sanctions did not just keep us out of the Big East and other post season tournaments in 2013. We also received scholarship AND visitation AND amount of time out recruiting restrictions.

Any of you who do not already know this either did not pay attention, do not know how to read, or are just plain lazy. And any of you who do not think THOSE RESTRICTIONS have had a negative impact on our recent recruiting are either clueless, or have an agenda to push against Kevin Ollie and this coaching staff.

There is a reason that we are more heavily involved NOW with recruits in the classes of 2016 and 2o17 then we were with recruits from the classes of 2014 and 2015... because WE CAN BE!

Frankly, I expect a bit more brain power out of most of you than I see in these threads. If you are going to have this conversation and you want to take the "this coaching staff is having problems recruiting" mantra, at least be willing to offer up some type of caveat for the importance those restrictions played in the equation. Otherwise, you should just STFU... and then go back and realize how absolutely, ridiculously amazing it is that we got anywhere close to the Final 4 last year, let alone a Championship.

It annoys the crap out of me when people keep pushing an argument but will never give a fully supported point of view that covers the entirety of the defense against them, just because no one brings up. Well, I just did. So... let me see some rebuttals to that specific argument, people.
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Some people are simply addicted to being negative.
 
Matrim55 said:
2013: 1 4-star (Facey), 0 top 50
2014: 2 4-stars (Hamilton, Purvis), 1 top 50
2015: 2 4-stars (Adams, Enoch), 2 top 50s

It still needs to get better. I'm disappointed we didn't close on Stone back in the autumn, that would couldn't poach Mack, and that we never really got back into the hunt for Dorsey. But the "we're doomed!" crowd is absolutely wearying given the information at hand and the trendline for the future.
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i still feel the Ali situation killed a lot of chances with other twos in this class. That was a bigger loss than any other two because he took recruiting time away from Ollie by committing for as long as he did. Wish he had never verballed/decommitted earlier. Still have to see what spring brings before any real complaining commences.
 
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see a lot of KevinDurant in the way he moves and his shooting style...not a bad thing at all!
 
LStudfellow said:
And Matrim55... I think us "getting on recruits earlier" has a lot less to do with the staff working together for several years, and a lot more to do with that fact that THEY CAN... now that the restrictions have been lifted.

Think about it... do some research on just what I am talking about... then get back to me.
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Holy crap batman. I gave you a like with the first post you made in this thread and took it back. It seems your crap didn't get appeased with your logical first rant so you had to hit a dude between the eyes who didn't say the exact same thing as you. Thought it was funny that you insist on a complete examination of the recruiting situation, took issue with myopic examination of recruiting, and then hit a guy who points out something that is different from your position but isn't refuting your position.

Personally I agree with your position that the apr situation was detrimental to recruiting and the primary factor. So does Matrim55. But the reality is it could be the singular factor, the primary factor, one of the factors or not a factor at all. We can only postulate things.

And his postulation that the coaching group will improve with time is certainly a reasonable postulation for any bb fan to consider especially watching players and how they must adjust when their roles change.
 
I just want a new NCAA basketball game to come out so I can do some fancy UCONN recruiting myself!
 
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W Coast UCONN said:
I just want a new NCAA basketball game to come out so I can do some fancy UCONN recruiting myself!
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I remember playing College Hoops 2K8 and going 23 years into Legacy mode only getting 1 recruit who wasn't a 4 or 5 star player. If only it were that easy...
 
According to TheRecruitScoop, Rafus is heading to prep school next year. Brewster Academy is on his list - might be nice to get a pipeline going there...
 
@trigonis30: Caught up w/ @PangosAACamp Top 60 pick Andre Rafus @ Scout Focus Has heard from UConn, Alabama, Georgetown, Florida, Maryland UCLA ArizState
 
Maryland is one of the top spots to find elite basketball players. There are a lot of 4-5 star players coming out of Prince George, Anne Arundel, and Baltimore. The Catholic leagues in Baltimore and D.C are extremely competitive and among the best teams in the country.

Coach Calhoun was able to do pretty well in this market: Rudy Gay, Josh Boone, Jerome Dyson, Albert Mouring, and Reggie Lewis (Northeastern). On the other hand, U of Maryland had not fared too well in their own home state under Gary Williams. However, Mark Turgeon seems to be more successful in keeping top guys from leaving for other schools.

I hope that Coach Ollie and staff can make some progress in Maryland and win some of the recruiting battles with ACC schools and the Terps.

It looks like Rafus already has a long list of offers so we will have to overcome some obstacles.
Here's the ESPN review: http://espn.go.com/college-sports/basketball/recruiting/player/_/id/206905/andre-rafus
 
LStudfellow said:
And Matrim55... I think us "getting on recruits earlier" has a lot less to do with the staff working together for several years, and a lot more to do with that fact that THEY CAN... now that the restrictions have been lifted.

Think about it... do some research on just what I am talking about... then get back to me.
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so close.... "get some facts" would have killed me at the end of this post
 
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Matrim55 said:
1) You're picking a fight with someone who largely agrees with your overall point (our recruiting is getting better) on a board where the majority seem to think we're doomed.
2) You're claiming that there's one - and only one - reason our recruiting appears to be picking up. You're dismissing out of hand the notion that a postseason ban, or conference realignment, or general questions about KO's coaching ability had/have any effect on our ability to go after and land top prospects.
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Or the uncertainty in transitioning from a HOF coach to a young unproven guy. Or that KO was rumored to be interested-in/ considered-for NBA head coaching gigs. Or the fact that KO got a long term contract.

And so on. Mutual exclusivity is all the rage on the internet.
 
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I don't know why and have no information but he's got Kansas written all over him.
 
LStudfellow said:
And Matrim55... I think us "getting on recruits earlier" has a lot less to do with the staff working together for several years, and a lot more to do with that fact that THEY CAN... now that the restrictions have been lifted.

Think about it... do some research on just what I am talking about... then get back to me.
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I thought about it, and concluded you're a jerk. If you posted more here, you'd know you insulted the wrong Yarder.
 
Matrim55 said:
2013: 1 4-star (Facey), 0 top 50
2014: 2 4-stars (Hamilton, Purvis), 1 top 50
2015: 2 4-stars (Adams, Enoch), 2 top 50s

It still needs to get better. I'm disappointed we didn't close on Stone back in the autumn, that would couldn't poach Mack, and that we never really got back into the hunt for Dorsey. But the "we're doomed!" crowd is absolutely wearying given the information at hand and the trendline for the future.
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Gosh. I sure was right.

2016: 5 4-stars, 3 top 50s (Gilbert, Durham, Larrier)

Can't wait to see what our 2017 class turns into.

 
nomar said:
I thought about it, and concluded you're a jerk. If you posted more here, you'd know you insulted the wrong Yarder.
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I'm sure he'll be ready to jump into the conversation he was having a year and a half ago.
 
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Andre Rafus eliminated us today. He held an offer but it doesn't seem like we were seriously pursuing him really. Never heard much chatter about him at all other than the last time he trimmed his list down to 15.
 
80shusky said:
Andre Rafus eliminated us today. He held an offer but it doesn't seem like we were seriously pursuing him really. Never heard much chatter about him at all other than the last time he trimmed his list down to 15.
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lol at him listing UK. He should've included the Yankees and Real Madrid while he's at it - just as likely to sign with them.
 
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