And they say our academic system is bad...

[rman726]

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/04/03/claiborne-gives-birth-to-a-four-on-the-wonderlic/

A four out of fifty. On a multiple choice test. I did not know that was possible. I don't know how that kid passed study hall, let alone any college courses. UConn needs to take this as an example. Just pass kids through the system. Apparently you don't even need to actually pass classes to "pass classes".

 

[specialisthusky]

scoring a 4 does not mean he got 4 "correct" answers on the wonderlic it doesn't work like that. It probably doesn't bode well for his overall intelligence but judging someone based on the wonderlic alone is naive look at guys like Bradshaw and Marino.

 

[whaler11]

I'm pretty sure it does mean that he got 4 correct. There is a study that there is a negative correlation between performance and Wonderlic scores at DB and TE. Meaning that the players who scored lower played better. The rest of the positions there was no correlation.

 

[phillionaire]

I read somewhere that if you score below a 10, you're illiterate.

 

[whaler11]

It seems almost impossible to get a 4 though...

Sample questions:

Paper sells for 21 cents per pad. What will four pads cost?

When rope is selling at $.10 a foot, how many feet can you buy for sixty cents?

Which number in the following group of numbers represents the smallest amount?
7 .8 31 .33 2

Assume the first two statements are true. Is the final one:
1. true, 2. false, 3. not certain?
Tom greeted Beth. Beth greeted Dawn. Tom did not greet Dawn.

The ninth month of the year is
1. October, 2. January, 3. June, 4. September, 5 May.

 

[specialisthusky]

It seems almost impossible to get a 4 though...

Sample questions:

Paper sells for 21 cents per pad. What will four pads cost?

When rope is selling at $.10 a foot, how many feet can you buy for sixty cents?

Which number in the following group of numbers represents the smallest amount?
7 .8 31 .33 2

Assume the first two statements are true. Is the final one:
1. true, 2. false, 3. not certain?
Tom greeted Beth. Beth greeted Dawn. Tom did not greet Dawn.

The ninth month of the year is
1. October, 2. January, 3. June, 4. September, 5 May.

lol wow maybe my original response was way off

 

[Gurleyman]

The last one is a trick question, because the prefix "sept" is seven, but it's actually the ninth month.

 

[caw]

The last one is a trick question, because the prefix "sept" is seven, but it's actually the ninth month.

Who says they mean by the Christian calendar?

 

[CAHUSKY]

I'm pretty sure it does mean that he got 4 correct. There is a study that there is a negative correlation between performance and Wonderlic scores at DB and TE. Meaning that the players who scored lower played better. The rest of the positions there was no correlation.

Correct, the lower a CB scores the better he performs on the field:

A 2009 study by professors from Fresno State University, the University of Georgia and Towson State found no connection between Wonderlic scores and performance during the first three years of a player's NFL career. The group studied 762 players from the 2002, 2003 and 2004 draft classes.
John W. Michel, an assistant professor at Towson University who co-authored the study, told The Washington Post: "We found in no cases was cognitive ability related to [football] performance. We did find a negative relationship for tight ends and defensive backs. For defensive backs, it was the most pronounced; basically, the lower you scored on the Wonderlic, the better you performed."

 

[whaler11]

The last one is a trick question, because the prefix "sept" is seven, but it's actually the ninth month.

Good one.

 

[jrazz12]

Correct, the lower a CB scores the better he performs on the field:

A 2009 study by professors from Fresno State University, the University of Georgia and Towson State found no connection between Wonderlic scores and performance during the first three years of a player's NFL career. The group studied 762 players from the 2002, 2003 and 2004 draft classes.
John W. Michel, an assistant professor at Towson University who co-authored the study, told The Washington Post: "We found in no cases was cognitive ability related to [football] performance. We did find a negative relationship for tight ends and defensive backs. For defensive backs, it was the most pronounced; basically, the lower you scored on the Wonderlic, the better you performed."

I'm sorry but until I see some inverse calculation methodology, there is no way you're convincing me that scoring a 4 on that test with those questions is a good thing in terms of basic aptitude. All that study you cite shows is that there is some flimsy correlation between a low score for DB's and better play on the field. It does not speak at all to the fact that somehow this person passed college level classes while getting those types of 3rd grade questions incorrect, which was the original point of the post.

 

[Fishy]

No matter what it means for his football career or his aptitude, he is clearly a dope.

No reason to over-think this. Fortunately, he's going to play football and not perform brain surgery for a living - stupidity has not slowed his career thus far and I see no reason why it should going forward.

 

[hungry husky]

The last one is a trick question, because the prefix "sept" is seven, but it's actually the ninth month.

Yeah that's what Mo said too.

 

[hungry husky]

No matter what it means for his football career or his aptitude, he is clearly a dope.

No reason to over-think this. Fortunately, he's going to play football and not perform brain surgery for a living - stupidity has not slowed his career thus far and I see no reason why it should going forward.

Agreed, he'll still be a top 15 pick.

 

[61cygni]

Reminds me of Zoolander

 

[huskyblooz]

The last one is a trick question, because the prefix "sept" is seven, but it's actually the ninth month.

speaking of CB's ... Cromartie always thought the 9th month wasnt a wonderlick test, but a paternity test

 

[HuskyBandDad]

It seems almost impossible to get a 4 though...

Sample questions:

Paper sells for 21 cents per pad. What will four pads cost?

When rope is selling at $.10 a foot, how many feet can you buy for sixty cents?

Which number in the following group of numbers represents the smallest amount?
7 .8 31 .33 2

Assume the first two statements are true. Is the final one:
1. true, 2. false, 3. not certain?
Tom greeted Beth. Beth greeted Dawn. Tom did not greet Dawn.

The ninth month of the year is
1. October, 2. January, 3. June, 4. September, 5 May.

This is a joke - right ??

 

[rman726]

This is a joke - right ??

Unfortunately no. Now, there are some more difficult questions on the test. ESPN ran an article a couple years ago when Vince Young reportedly scored a 7, with a sample test. But many of the questions are that simple.

Anyways, I know that this test doesn't necessary correlate how some would like it to. I'm just saying that I don't see how anyone could have passed a college course, let alone 3 years worth of classes. I can't think of any possible ways that this kid passed 3 years worth of courses, other than (If student == athlete), then set grade to a passing grade.

 

[upstater]

Who knows how the study determined high performance. I do know that Belichick puts a lot of stock in the wonderlic and the Patriots probably have the highest scores around.

 

[rman726]

Who knows how the study determined high performance. I do know that Belichick puts a lot of stock in the wonderlic and the Patriots probably have the highest scores around.

I think that's what makes him a great coach. He realizes that you can teach decent players to excel at certain roles (as long as they are intelligent enough to understand the system that Bill's trying to implement). And there are hundreds of decent players around that don't cost a lot. He takes decent players and makes them perform as well as the great players by putting them in roles where they will succeed at. And that way, he can spend his money paying the few positions that you really want great players at. Having said that, I wouldn't mind if Belichick got into a fight with Kraft and quit tomorrow.

 

[UCDaveD]

Pretty sure the kid has a learning disability. Not saying that excuses score of 4 on what appears to be an easier version of the CT Mastery Test, but it may have something to do with it.

http://www.sbnation.com/2012-nfl-draft/2012/4/3/2922324/morris-claiborne-nfl-draft-2012

 

[hungry husky]

Who knows how the study determined high performance. I do know that Belichick puts a lot of stock in the wonderlic and the Patriots probably have the highest scores around.

Anyone know what Gronk's Wonderlic was?