An article we can all agree on (Spread offenses)

[metsfan2323]

http://www.cbssports.com/collegefoo...d-offenses-created-parity-in-college-football

Dear Paul,

"Spread offenses have been the single thing that has created parity in college football," Gundy said.



"Could a team like Oklahoma State compete with the Oklahomas and Texases of the world if it ran a standard I-formation style or pro set? Would Baylor have won 10 games, much less a Heisman lining up its offense in a phone booth? Could Texas Tech recruit the quality linemen needed to develop a successful power running game?
The answer to all those questions, of course, is no. Running variations of the spread allows teams with lesser talent to compete with teams with more talent. Some of these teams have built upon their success with the spread by bringing in better players, thus injecting more talent into their schemes and, in some cases, propelling their programs into the elite of college football "(see Oregon).

 

[Palatine]

Don't confuse the option with the spread. I'm pretty sure that Baylor didn't line up in a spread.

 

[Jerry27]

Don't confuse the option with the spread. I'm pretty sure that Baylor didn't line up in a spread.

Art Briles runs a spread offense, he always has, he made his name on it. Baylor under Briles never ran the option.

excerpt from an interview a couple years ago with Fox Sports Southwest,

"Your spread offense really served as a catalyst in the state of Texas. After they saw the success you were having in the 1990s, dozens of schools changed their offenses and patterned them after yours. Where did you come up with your version of the spread? Did you have any influences when you designed your offense?
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I appreciate you saying that, because honestly we were some of the first people to start throwing it around and spreading it out. I just kind of came about it through trial and error. I had my first head coaching job back in 1984 in Hamlin, Texas. That first year, we made it to the quarter-finals and got beat on penetration. So the next year, I understood that if we didn�t spread the field and give our guys space to create plays in, somebody with better talent was going to shut us down and beat us. We started it in 1985, spreading in the ball around. We were in the shotgun, throwing it and running the zone read. It just kind of evolved through the years. We fluctuated with our personnel and with our philosophy, and with the defenses we were facing. I think it�s fun; I like how everything has evolved in the game of football. I�m excited about what the future holds, because it�s been a fun journey watching the way everything has transpired on both sides of the ball."

 

[Palatine]

Art Briles runs a spread offense, he always has, he made his name on it. Baylor under Briles never ran the option.

excerpt from an interview a couple years ago with Fox Sports Southwest,

"Your spread offense really served as a catalyst in the state of Texas. After they saw the success you were having in the 1990s, dozens of schools changed their offenses and patterned them after yours. Where did you come up with your version of the spread? Did you have any influences when you designed your offense?
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I appreciate you saying that, because honestly we were some of the first people to start throwing it around and spreading it out. I just kind of came about it through trial and error. I had my first head coaching job back in 1984 in Hamlin, Texas. That first year, we made it to the quarter-finals and got beat on penetration. So the next year, I understood that if we didn�t spread the field and give our guys space to create plays in, somebody with better talent was going to shut us down and beat us. We started it in 1985, spreading in the ball around. We were in the shotgun, throwing it and running the zone read. It just kind of evolved through the years. We fluctuated with our personnel and with our philosophy, and with the defenses we were facing. I think it�s fun; I like how everything has evolved in the game of football. I�m excited about what the future holds, because it�s been a fun journey watching the way everything has transpired on both sides of the ball."

Baylor absolutely ran the read option against us. They ran it against everyone. Here is a video of Baylor running the read option in 2012.

The problem is that everything is called the "spread" today. A true spread like Texas Tech puts large splits between the offensive linemen.

Spreading the field horizontally can be done out of a pro set, that is done by spreading the receivers. Spreading the receivers is not a true spread. Not to put too fine of a point on it, spreading the receivers is a spread principle but it isn't the true spread offense.

 

[Jerry27]

I think everyone has a play or two of option in their packages especially with a mobile qb, it doesn't make their base offense an option offense. i.e. i.e. Navy, GT

those quotes I put in are from Briles mouth, he made his career in a spread offense, developing it over twenty years or so. Regardless of the 16 second video clip, Baylors offense is a spread offense, I would think the head coach knows what he runs for an offense.

 

[ruskin]

This discussion begs the question of what to call TJs offense. He said it's not but it sure seems like it is. We'll see soon enough.

 

[RedSoloCup]

This discussion begs the question of what to call TJs offense. He said it's not but it sure seems like it is. We'll see soon enough.

I only want to hear it called successful. That would make me happy.

 

[Jerry27]

I only want to hear it called successful. That would make me happy.

AMEN! I want to see chains movin on sustained drives, I don't want to be able to call the plays before they're run!

 

[Jimmy Serrano]

I'm having a difficult time deciding who to believe is correct about what type of offense Baylor runs.......Palatine or Art Briles? Tough call.

 

[noeynox]

I thought I read a while back that today's spread offenses with the zone reads, got their origins from gulp.... Deleone's freeze option days.

 

[Jax Husky]

Baylor absolutely ran the Spread offense. Read option is often part of that offense. The offense IS dictated by spreading the receivers and linemen out. How can you say that is just a "spread principle"? It is the definition of the spread offense.

The spread offense begins with the quarterback in the shotgun formation most of the time, and often employs a no-huddle approach. The fundamental nature of the spread offense involves spreading the field horizontally using 3, 4, and even 5-receiver sets. Some implementations of the spread also feature wide splits between the offensive linemen. The object of the spread offense is to open up multiple vertical seams for both the running and passing game to exploit, as the defense is forced to spread itself thin across the field (a "horizontal stretch") to cover everyone.

 

[Palatine]

My point is the term is so overused as to be almost useless. I am going back to the original meaning of the spread. It doesn't "also" feature wide splits between the offensive linemen, if you split the lineman and only used one wide out that would still be a spread. If you put the lineman in a pro set and spread the wide receivers that is not a true spread. Offensive line splits define the spread. However, as I said, the meaning has morphed over time to be almost meaningless.

Historically, teams in the northeast, both pro or college, use a pro set and lean more heavily on the running game than fair weather teams. That because as the season wears on the weather makes the passing game more difficult. Less ball handling is desirable in inclement weather. So I doubt we will see a Texas Tech type system or the read option. We may see wideouts that are wider out. But I doubt we will use large line splits.

 

[CL82]

"An article we can all agree on (Spread offenses)"
Apparently not.

 

[Doggie Style]

Baylor absolutely ran the read option against us. They ran it against everyone. Here is a video of Baylor running the read option in 2012.

The problem is that everything is called the "spread" today. A true spread like Texas Tech puts large splits between the offensive linemen.



Spreading the field horizontally can be done out of a pro set, that is done by spreading the receivers. Spreading the receivers is not a true spread. Not to put too fine of a point on it,
spreading the receivers is a spread principle but it isn't the true spread offense.

I'd rather see a video of RGIIi running for his life against our D!! We shut his down and delivered several blows in the process!!

 

[Palatine]

"An article we can all agree on (Spread offenses)"
Apparently not.

LOL.

 

[TouchdownHusky]

Doesn't matter . . . none of it. We are UConn. We are smash mouth football. Get up by 10 and grind clock and sit back and watch defense.

 

[FAIRTIDES]

This discussion begs the question of what to call TJs offense. He said it's not but it sure seems like it is. We'll see soon enough.

It's called the, "It's my offense, but I'll let PP name it; for now."