I can't believe people are getting their panties in a twist about the name America 12. What else could they name it? It's not a regional conference (like I wish it was), the teams are all over the place. That's a fine league name.
Association of Athletic Colleges?
They are putting a number of teams on the end of it that we don't even possess yet, and you can't figure out why panties are twisting? Really???
Numbers at the end of conferences are bad ideas, period. The B1G even changed their symbol in response to how stupid it had turned out to be.
And then there's the fact that we should try our best to distance ourselves from the "Conference USA 2.o" moniker by not adding the words "USA" or "America", as well as not making a logo that reminds people of the A-10, especially since they will be even worse pretty soon without Butler and Xavier.
But hey, after all that, what's not to like?
Yes, really, I don't know why everyone is upset about the name. Is "national athletic conference that much better"?
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"National Athletic Conference That Much Better" is a horrible name! Perhaps even worse than the A-12!
In all seriousness, though, if the reasons that I mentioned earlier aren't enough for you to dislike the name, then I'm guessing that there is no name that would put you off. So I'll leave it at that...
So we know what you don't like, how about adding what you do? What name can encompass the make-up of this conference without incorporating those very things?
Yeah, I've been giving a lot of thought to this one, and I haven't come up with anything yet. I don't like being the guy that says, "It sucks" without having something else to back it up with. And for those that know me and how I post here, I'm the more positive type by design (maybe to a fault).
The things that I was thinking about encompassed an eastern flavor. We may not be northeastern anymore, but if you drew a line down the middle of the US map, all of our members are in the east still (I think even Tulsa might find its way to the east in a true line of demarcation). But you would want to have the word be "Eastern" and not "East", as many have already pointed out that the joke "LEast" will continue to be used and you need to avoid that. So, something like "Eastern Athletic Conference (EAC)" or something along those lines. No numbers. No "LEast" jokes. No use of the word "American" or "National" or "USA"...
So that's where the "or something along those lines" comes into play. It has to obviously be a name that has not yet been taken....by a friggin' Massachusetts high school association, of all things!!!
I guess that why there's an ECAC (Eastern Collegiate Athletic Conference)... I just knew ECA because my niece goes to Bishop Feehan HS.
Yeah, I've been giving a lot of thought to this one, and I haven't come up with anything yet. I don't like being the guy that says, "It sucks" without having something else to back it up with. And for those that know me and how I post here, I'm the more positive type by design (maybe to a fault).
The things that I was thinking about encompassed an eastern flavor. We may not be northeastern anymore, but if you drew a line down the middle of the US map, all of our members are in the east still (I think even Tulsa might find its way to the east in a true line of demarcation). But you would want to have the word be "Eastern" and not "East", as many have already pointed out that the joke "LEast" will continue to be used and you need to avoid that. So, something like "Eastern Athletic Conference (EAC)" or something along those lines. No numbers. No "LEast" jokes. No use of the word "American" or "National" or "USA"...
I read the boards daily, I'm aware of your posting, and please don't get me wrong, I'm in the same boat. I have no idea what a good name for this conference would be, I don't envy them in any way. I agree on your points about avoiding the whole "LEast" thing, but anything with east in it will have detractors. Jokes about east of, fill in any far western location, will still be made. It really does limit them by adding these types of restrictions, especially given all the names already in use that might fit us.
I'm not against the number thing, its a brand ala the Big Ten, they are still the Big Ten no matter how many teams they add, it serves as a reminder of what was more than what is. How many people still refer to the PAC 12 as the PAC 10, I know I do, because that brand is ingrained in us, it will take years of the PAC 12 to move beyond that. And I like to believe we will be gone before that becomes an issue for us in this conference so in that respect it's their problem down the road not ours.
Big Atlantic
Great Eastern
East Coast
Conference of Eastern Universities
Eastern 12
America 12
Name matters less than what you make of it. But if you want to sound like a power conference the temple is to use a compass direction, the name of an ocean, or the word Big plus a number.
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I already like Big Atlantic, Great Eastern, East Coast, Conference of Eastern Universities, and even Eastern 12 over America 12. It's funny that you randomly put together five names via a template and spit out five better choices than what was floated out the other day by the league...
Just sat staring at the map like a mo, what about something that takes into consideration the hybrid that the conference is, something like Atlantic-Gulf Conference or similar along those lines?
I already like Big Atlantic, Great Eastern, East Coast, Conference of Eastern Universities, and even Eastern 12 over America 12. It's funny that you randomly put together five names via a template and spit out five better choices than what was floated out the other day by the league...
A hybrid would work, although it's tough to use the Atlantic as part of it, since that would be limited to Navy, Temple, and UConn (if you ignored the Chesapeake Bay, Delaware Bay, and Long Island Sound respectively), as well as the fact that Cincy would feel left out of it. But still, a hybrid name could be the answer to reflect the hybrid conference. Eastern Heartland? Appalachian ___ (a play on the opposite of the Mountain West).
This is the type of stuff that keeps me up at night...