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It pains me (seriously, no pun intended) me to post this...


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aceboon said:
Sounds like the same thing that Purvis went through before he had his labrum surgery during his redshirt year, he said the shoulder kept popping in and out so he had the surgery to take care of it.
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And Steve Pikiell.
 
Dove said:
It pains me (seriously, no pun intended) me to post this...

NEXT!
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Don't be silly. Would you have "nexted" Okafor knowing he'd have recurring back problems? Or AJ Price?
 
Could be a blessing in disguise. Hopefully, there are exercises that he can do prevent future injury. Better now than Jan. to work on this problem.
If he needs surgery, he can redshirt a year. One way or another we need to suit up for three years.
 
This will be a great opportunity for Travis - building flexibility and gymnastic type strength for Gilbert. This is what he is good at. The fact that he has done it before and it's no big deal is actually a bad sign. It show an inherent weakness that needs to be addressed especially for a guy who can drive and take hard fouls.
 
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Better this happens 7 months from the start of the season than in October/November. Those first few months are HUGE for getting acclimated to the college game, see Jalen.
 
Here we go. Steve Pikiell all over again except he'll probably leave after 2 years because he needs to cash in before the NBA realizes he has shoulder issues.
 
Henry said:
Here we go. Steve Pikiell all over again except he'll probably leave after 2 years because he needs to cash in before the NBA realizes he has shoulder issues.
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You know nothing.
 
amory said:
Looks like a dislocation, which really hurts but the recovery time shouldn't be too bad.

Hope he's ok
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Not so sure. Once you have one you are prone to them. It looked like he just made a play on the ball and it popped out. Not a good sign, as it would seem to suggest he has some really loose ligaments. I defer to the board's medical brain trust for a more informed opinion.
 
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pnow15 said:
Could be a blessing in disguise. Hopefully, there are exercises that he can do prevent future injury. Better now than Jan. to work on this problem.
If he needs surgery, he can redshirt a year. One way or another we need to suit up for three years.
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You are consistently so doom and gloom, yet are optimistic about our star recruit dislocating his shoulder. In fact, you go past optimism and call it a potential blessing.

Jesus
 
pnow15 said:
Could be a blessing in disguise. Hopefully, there are exercises that he can do prevent future injury. Better now than Jan. to work on this problem.
If he needs surgery, he can redshirt a year. One way or another we need to suit up for three years.
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This makes my brain hurt :confused:

You have to be joking, right?

EDIT: @Rocktheworld, hadn't seen your post yet because my eye sight is clearly horrible. Let's hope it's a blessing in disguise.
 
Rocktheworld, post: 1668158, member: 5037"]You are consistently so doom and gloom, yet are optimistic about our star recruit dislocating his shoulder. In fact, you go past optimism and call it a potential blessing.

Jesus[/QUOTE]

Since this is the 2nd injury of this nature to Gilbert and this one was caused by virtually no contact whatsoever, it most likely means he has a
weakened condition in his shoulder that needs to be addressed and that this injury most likely would have occurred during the season.
It is a blessing that this condition was revealed during the off season when steps can be taken to either repair the injury or start a regiment of exercises to prevent another injury when this one had healed. I am sorry that this logic eludes some posters.
 
Doctor Hoop said:
I guess this is where I need to weigh in. If it's a separated shoulder (an ac joint injury) that's the best case scenario. Since it was non-contact it would be grade 1, or at worst grade 2, and no surgery needed

Based on the video I think a deltoid strain is even more likely, and should also recover uneventfully.

A subluxation/instability episode of the shoulder is also possible, but with a non-contact injury it is possible that it's simply due to being stretchy, and might be treatable with just rehab. Unfortunately if there is a torn labrum virtually 100% of young athletes will have additional instability episodes without surgery.

Let's hope it's the deltoid or the ac joint.

And yes, as a matter of fact I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night.
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I like having a qualified sports medicine guy on the board.
 
Gurleyman said:
Don't be silly. Would you have "nexted" Okafor knowing he'd have recurring back problems? Or AJ Price?
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It's Dove man. No chance that wasn't a joke. Even worked in a pun that might have thrown you off.
 
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Gurleyman said:
Don't be silly. Would you have "nexted" Okafor knowing he'd have recurring back problems? Or AJ Price?
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I would have but...


...AJ took my laptop.


:cool:
 
Since this is the 2nd injury of this nature to Gilbert and this one was caused by virtually no contact whatsoever, it most likely means he has a
weakened condition in his shoulder that needs to be addressed and that this injury most likely would have occurred during the season.
It is a blessing that this condition was revealed during the off season when steps can be taken to either repair the injury or start a regiment of exercises to prevent another injury when this one had healed. I am sorry that this logic eludes some posters.
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The point



























Your head
 
Stairmaster said:
You know nothing.
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Do you remember when Steve Pikiell played? He was a fantastic recruit and a good player but was constantly getting hurt. I hope it is not a chronic issue but shoulders can be problematic. We need this kid to be able to play especially with Hamilton leaving. I guess I do know something.
 
Henry said:
Do you remember when Steve Pikiell played? He was a fantastic recruit and a good player but was constantly getting hurt. I hope it is not a chronic issue but shoulders can be problematic. We need this kid to be able to play especially with Hamilton leaving. I guess I do know something.
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That's a gigantic leap to be making, one injury on the same body part as a guy who played in the 1980s and all of a sudden his career path is stunted in the exact same way.
 
CL82 said:
Not so sure. Once you have one you are prone to them. It looked like he just made a play on the ball and it popped out. Not a good sign, as it would seem to suggest he has some really loose ligaments. I defer to the board's medical brain trust for a more informed opinion.
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Here's some info so that I don't have to write it all.

Chronic Shoulder Instability-OrthoInfo - AAOS

The bottom line is that at his age, having dislocated it once previously, it was virtually certain that it would come out again eventually. The decision will be surgery vs. give it a try of rest and a global strengthening program to see if it will be stable enough for basketball. The MRI will help with that decision, but it's not definitive.

Y'all are in the same boat as me, wanting whichever option is best for the player. Honestly, that decision is between the player, the doctor and the parents. The coaches will step aside and avoid influencing it either way if they're smart.
 
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I played 2-1/2 years of HS ball with a chronic, recurrent subluxation of the right shoulder. The first couple times it came out, I was in a sling for a couple days and didn't play for a week or two. Once it "wore in", I could pop it in and out at will. It came out pretty much every time I reached above shoulder height, and it would lock out and hurt like hell if I didn't bring my arm back down in the right direction, but that was the only pain involved. I was a 4/5, and it took a lot of banging in awkward positions. I'm left handed, but became a right handed shot blocker, because I could reach 4 or 5 inches higher with that arm.

That was 50 something years ago. These days, I'm careful not to knock it out, because I have to use my other hand to push it back into position, and it hurts quite a bit if I don't do it just right. I keep telling myself I'm going to get a new shoulder, but never get around to it. My older brother got one and had an 8 month recovery before he could fish again. I ain't doin' that.
 
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Alterique just needs to rub some Robitussin on it and he'll be good to go in no time.
 
huskymedic said:
As an FYI: There is a distinct difference between a dislocated shoulder and a separated shoulder.

Dislocation: Causes the top of your arm to pop out of the shoulder socket

Separation: Tears the ligaments that connects the collarbone to the shoulder blade

They are not interchangeable.
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This post cannot be stressed enough. We have had conflicting reports on what exactly the injury was.

UConn Report, Oz from TOS, and Borges in his NH register article are all saying shoulder separation (though Borges in his tweet contradicts his article by calling it a dislocated shoulder). That is a AC joint injury, not a true shoulder dislocation.

Amore is saying shoulder dislocation and in his article actually describes a true dislocation and spontaneous relocation of his shoulder joint.
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It would be nice to have definitive confirmation on what the injury was because it drastically changes the treatment options.

My pure speculation is that it was a true shoulder dislocation and, if this is his 2nd, needs a MRI to evaluate his labrum. I'm sure the team docs have one pending.

Doc hoops, where are you practicing?
 
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From my experience, shoulders are rarely nothing. I'm hoping the something is minimal.
 
Doctor Hoop said:
Here's some info so that I don't have to write it all.

Chronic Shoulder Instability-OrthoInfo - AAOS

The bottom line is that at his age, having dislocated it once previously, it was virtually certain that it would come out again eventually. The decision will be surgery vs. give it a try of rest and a global strengthening program to see if it will be stable enough for basketball. The MRI will help with that decision, but it's not definitive.

Y'all are in the same boat as me, wanting whichever option is best for the player. Honestly, that decision is between the player, the doctor and the parents. The coaches will step aside and avoid influencing it either way if they're smart.
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If a surgery helps avoid the injury from reoccurring, what's the time involved before fully playing again?
 
Doctor Hoop said:
I guess this is where I need to weigh in. If it's a separated shoulder (an ac joint injury) that's the best case scenario. Since it was non-contact it would be grade 1, or at worst grade 2, and no surgery needed

Based on the video I think a deltoid strain is even more likely, and should also recover uneventfully.

A subluxation/instability episode of the shoulder is also possible, but with a non-contact injury it is possible that it's simply due to being stretchy, and might be treatable with just rehab. Unfortunately if there is a torn labrum virtually 100% of young athletes will have additional instability episodes without surgery.

Let's hope it's the deltoid or the ac joint.

And yes, as a matter of fact I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night.
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What does surgery do? I mean prevent it from popping out, or something else. Is it a permanent/long-term fix or just something that reduces recurrence?

Just curious how does one keep that sucker in the socket for good or tighter?

I'm talking context of athlete not common man.
 
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