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Northeast basketball is trending down in a big way.
It's no secret that the end of the Old Big East profoundly impacted the Northeast teams.
Syracuse is getting nowhere close to the talent that used to go there.
Georgetown is getting nowhere close to the talent that used to go there.
Go down the list.
When the NBE was formed, outside of Villanova, it was the teams from Indiana, Nebraska, and Ohio were carrying the league.
Like was said when Wisconsin (Marquette) and Illinois (DePaul) were added from CUSA, it became the BIG YEAST.
But those teams were needed to help with the talent drain.
UConn used to recruit nationally under Jim Calhoun. Danny doesn't have that ability. So, whenever he gets a guy, he's usually taking a guy away from Providence.
Jon Rothstein regularly writes that the NBE needs Georgetown and St Johns to return to their 1980s success for the league to really be good. I think that can be expanded to include the overall success of basketball in the NE.
 
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The good news is UConn should be running the BE very soon.
 
Not sure if the OP is a chicken little kinda guy, or uses us Yarders for his research, but just look at the history of NCAA champions.

Anyway, all I see are Texas and Western schools in the Final Four, nothing more.
 
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BapeKidd88 said:
Northeast basketball is trending down in a big way.
It's no secret that the end of the Old Big East profoundly impacted the Northeast teams.
Syracuse is getting nowhere close to the talent that used to go there.
Georgetown is getting nowhere close to the talent that used to go there.
Go down the list.
When the NBE was formed, outside of Villanova, it was the teams from Indiana, Nebraska, and Ohio were carrying the league.
Like was said when Wisconsin (Marquette) and Illinois (DePaul) were added from CUSA, it became the BIG YEAST.
But those teams were needed to help with the talent drain.
UConn used to recruit nationally under Jim Calhoun. Danny doesn't have that ability. So, whenever he gets a guy, he's usually taking a guy away from Providence.
Jon Rothstein regularly writes that the NBE needs Georgetown and St Johns to return to their 1980s success for the league to really be good. I think that can be expanded to include the overall success of basketball in the NE.
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If you say so
 
TIL: a team from a city on the Atlantic (Gulf of Mexico) is from the west. Another not far from there is also from the west.
 
HuskyHawk said:
TIL: a team from a city on the Atlantic (Gulf of Mexico) is from the west. Another not far from there is also from the west.
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I thought Texas was considered
-Geographically South
-Time zone wise - Central.
 
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Travelman32 said:
Unless I missed something, Baylor and Houston aren't exactly "West"...
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West of the Mississippi River, and former rivals in the Southwest Conference, which establishes that they never saw themselves as either north or east.
 
UConnJim said:
You do realize that only 1 team from west of the Mississippi River has won a National Championship in the last 20 years? Kansas in 2008.
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And Kansas certainly ain't the West.
 
superjohn said:
And Kansas certainly ain't the West.
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Used to be at one time before any of us were born. Isn't now for sure. At least not Lawrence.
 
BapeKidd88 said:
Northeast basketball is trending down in a big way.
It's no secret that the end of the Old Big East profoundly impacted the Northeast teams.
Syracuse is getting nowhere close to the talent that used to go there.
Georgetown is getting nowhere close to the talent that used to go there.
Go down the list.
When the NBE was formed, outside of Villanova, it was the teams from Indiana, Nebraska, and Ohio were carrying the league.
Like was said when Wisconsin (Marquette) and Illinois (DePaul) were added from CUSA, it became the BIG YEAST.
But those teams were needed to help with the talent drain.
UConn used to recruit nationally under Jim Calhoun. Danny doesn't have that ability. So, whenever he gets a guy, he's usually taking a guy away from Providence.
Jon Rothstein regularly writes that the NBE needs Georgetown and St Johns to return to their 1980s success for the league to really be good. I think that can be expanded to include the overall success of basketball in the NE.
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You decided this should be your 15th post?
 
BapeKidd88 said:
Northeast basketball is trending down in a big way.
It's no secret that the end of the Old Big East profoundly impacted the Northeast teams.
Syracuse is getting nowhere close to the talent that used to go there.
Georgetown is getting nowhere close to the talent that used to go there.
Go down the list.
When the NBE was formed, outside of Villanova, it was the teams from Indiana, Nebraska, and Ohio were carrying the league.
Like was said when Wisconsin (Marquette) and Illinois (DePaul) were added from CUSA, it became the BIG YEAST.
But those teams were needed to help with the talent drain.
UConn used to recruit nationally under Jim Calhoun. Danny doesn't have that ability. So, whenever he gets a guy, he's usually taking a guy away from Providence.
Jon Rothstein regularly writes that the NBE needs Georgetown and St Johns to return to their 1980s success for the league to really be good. I think that can be expanded to include the overall success of basketball in the NE.
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Someone gets it! Just FYI, though, Georgetown and St Johns aren’t returning to 1980s form. That is a pipe dream.
 
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The trend is that the Northeast is becoming irrelevant. Before the break up of the Big East the northeast was a basketball power that regularly sent teams to the Final Four. The Big East was really the lynchpin. Since the launch of the New Big East only Villanova has been significant. And when they have an off year nobody is there. Exactly 2 other New Big East teams have gotten past the first weekend of the tournament since 2014. And they aren’t exactly “eastern”. Xavier and Creighton. In original Big East It was not uncommon for multiple teams to get to the Final Four and 3 different Big East teams won titles between 2000 and 2013. During that time there was a Big East team in the final Four for 5 straight years and 6 out of 7. Syracuse and UConn won titles back to back. It was the dominant conference during that period with only the ACC as a serious competitor. If you look at it honestly the New Big East is a nice league but not a nationally relevant one. I would argue that it has been replaced by the SEC which now seems to be focused on it. Until recently outside of Kentucky and maybe Florida and Miss State the SEC always viewed basketball as something to kill time between football season and spring football practice, and possibly a resurgent PAC 12. We will see on that but it has had multiple teams get to the Final Four with Oregon in 2017 and now UCLA. We’ll see where that goes. If a couple of American teams emulate Houston they could be a problem too.
 
Why does everyone always say “besides Villanova” or “excluding Villanova”? They’ve won 2 of the last 4 NCAA championships and have been consistently one of the best teams in the country. The Big East should not be penalized for having a great team.
 
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jeff99 said:
Why does everyone always say “besides Villanova” or “excluding Villanova”? They’ve won 2 of the last 4 NCAA championships and have been consistently one of the best teams in the country. The Big East should not be penalized for having a great team.
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I assure you BIg 12 fans don't say besides Kansas when they are talking about Big 12 basketball.
 
The answer is yes, it’s very worrisome. Potential players born on the east coast (the main recruiting base for most east coast teams) are wearing COVID masks at a much higher rate than anywhere else in the country causing their johnsons (on average) to shrink smaller. While the decrease in weight is helpful for elevation, the lack of bulge makes for bad TV, so the major networks will do everything in their power to not let these players to win.
 
freescooter said:
The trend is that the Northeast is becoming irrelevant. Before the break up of the Big East the northeast was a basketball power that regularly sent teams to the Final Four. The Big East was really the lynchpin. Since the launch of the New Big East only Villanova has been significant. And when they have an off year nobody is there. Exactly 2 other New Big East teams have gotten past the first weekend of the tournament since 2014. And they aren’t exactly “eastern”. Xavier and Creighton. In original Big East It was not uncommon for multiple teams to get to the Final Four and 3 different Big East teams won titles between 2000 and 2013. During that time there was a Big East team in the final Four for 5 straight years and 6 out of 7. Syracuse and UConn won titles back to back. It was the dominant conference during that period with only the ACC as a serious competitor. If you look at it honestly the New Big East is a nice league but not a nationally relevant one. I would argue that it has been replaced by the SEC which now seems to be focused on it. Until recently outside of Kentucky and maybe Florida and Miss State the SEC always viewed basketball as something to kill time between football season and spring football practice, and possibly a resurgent PAC 12. We will see on that but it has had multiple teams get to the Final Four with Oregon in 2017 and now UCLA. We’ll see where that goes. If a couple of American teams emulate Houston they could be a problem too.
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This.
 
BapeKidd88 said:
Northeast basketball is trending down in a big way.
It's no secret that the end of the Old Big East profoundly impacted the Northeast teams.
Syracuse is getting nowhere close to the talent that used to go there.
Georgetown is getting nowhere close to the talent that used to go there.
Go down the list.
When the NBE was formed, outside of Villanova, it was the teams from Indiana, Nebraska, and Ohio were carrying the league.
Like was said when Wisconsin (Marquette) and Illinois (DePaul) were added from CUSA, it became the BIG YEAST.
But those teams were needed to help with the talent drain.
UConn used to recruit nationally under Jim Calhoun. Danny doesn't have that ability. So, whenever he gets a guy, he's usually taking a guy away from Providence.
Jon Rothstein regularly writes that the NBE needs Georgetown and St Johns to return to their 1980s success for the league to really be good. I think that can be expanded to include the overall success of basketball in the NE.
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Why can't Dan Hurley recruit nationally? Budget? He's not a big enough name? JC got Donny and KO from the west coast when he was still up and coming.
 
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