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I don't know why folks are disparaging Yale. I'm no Yale fan, but they're a pretty good I-AA team, and they'd likely beat us, along with any number of other FBS bottom dwellers.

Because theyre frigging Yale. They are functioning on a fraction of the scholarships UConn is.
 
Four. Our fans. My section (109). Emptied out at halftime. Those that remained sat on their azZes the whole time.
In the 200's the stands were full until the pick 6 in the final seconds. Your section sounds like an anomaly. Cheering/making noise was probably 50% of what it would be at the Rent except for the UCONN cheer after touchdowns, which sounded awesome.
 
So we couldn't have lost to army last year? Or would that have been on HCBD as well. This is an awful team. We have a multi year record to prove it. Our new coach hasn't fixed it in his first year. That's what we know. But he didn't create it and none of us know that the team would have been much better with any other coach we realistically could have brought in instead.

Nope I don't know if anyone else would have done better.

What I do know is that in two weeks when Fordham goes to West Point and beats Army... today is going to look even more ridiculous.
 
Just watched the last INT again on tape...absolutely horrendous decision and throw...moving backwards and threw into a crowd...no reason for it..
I couldn't watch it again if you paid me. Wasn't any worse than the pick earlier in the game, throwing across his body, across the field. Only thing worse was timing and the immediate result of the game ending score. Broke my heart.
 
So we couldn't have lost to army last year? Or would that have been on HCBD as well. This is an awful team. We have a multi year record to prove it. Our new coach hasn't fixed it in his first year. That's what we know. But he didn't create it and none of us know that the team would have been much better with any other coach we realistically could have brought in instead.

Wiest isn't exactly Bill Walsh and he would have beaten Army by two touchdowns. We need to stop making excuses for Diaco.
 
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Why is it all the coaches fault? He can only ask his players what needs to be done, it is up to them to get the job done.
 
I don't think anybody rolled over. I blame the coaches 99.9% here and give Army some credit for a great effort.
Diaco and Cummings are 2-7.They are what their record say they are!!!! What process and what plan justify 2-7?
 
Is it the coaches fault that when Foxx came in at QB their corners could get off blocks and our corners couldn't get off blocks all day? We looked totally unprepared to defend the option, but I don't know how much of that was coaching and how much of that was playing. And unless you were in the practices discussing schemes this week, neither did you.

So Diaco took a bad team and made it a bad team? His is 2-7, that's what he is. How is he better than PP and TW?
 
You might want to throw in Central Fla.
And don't backtrack, incapable is what you implied. You were saying it is the talent, not the coaching .We all know the results, the result game would mean Central Fla couldn't beat Yale. Is every 5-7 team better than every 4-8 team because their record is better? Because our record this year was 2-6 we automatically are worse than Army? Even though they had the same record?

I'm also pretty sure the other teams we played lost players too. Many lost even better players than we did! They seem to be managing a lot better.

No. You are dead wrong. We beat UCF. By definition that means we are not incapable of beating them. But if you look at bodies of work, no rational person can conclude that they are not the better team. Simple enough?
 
So Diaco took a bad team and made it a bad team? His is 2-7, that's what he is. How is he better than PP and TW?
So Diaco took a bad team and made it a bad team? His is 2-7, that's what he is. How is he better than PP and TW?

Because P made this a bad team and program. Diaco will have to improve it, but there are ways to improve it (by improving your players more over their five years here as Edsall did) that can't be done quickly. If he's not beter than P in his fourth year, we have a problem. All they've proved to date is that the current staff are not miracle workers. Which coach didn't we hire who has proved that they could turn crap into gold in one year?
 
So UConn still doesn't get it. College football is played best when offenses used the forward pass.
True, the forward pass was why Army was able to carve up our defense and win the game.
 
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In the parlance of the Internet ... before we were FBS, this was a WTF win followed by a WTF loss. And it was entirely predictable.

Yale? Or Weist?

Remember when Edsall - with a far more in-place culture and system got his butt whipped by Navy? ARMY used this triple option and does it well. It takes lots of repetitions and maybe a few years of playing this type of Program (maybe Yale has seen this a few times) to have a defense - even with experienced D1 guys - to play it well. And then ... Edsall won the next year.

We aren't WORSE than Yale. We simply didn't effectively stop this Army offense on one afternoon in 2014. I don't think Weist would have done any better with Hank Hughes.

The true test of Diaco is coming & it is over time - deal with it. Bunch of whiners.
 
We play a ton of very young players on defense. I spent a lot of the game pointing out (to a buddy who was at the game with me) which defensive players put themselves out of position and used the replay to confirm this. Defending the option requires patience and discipline. Underclassmen normally lack both. It sucks that we lost. It sucks that we looked as bad as we did on defense (In my eyes the most egregious error was the pass completion on first and 20), it sucks that we never had the opportunity to get into any rhythm on offense and it sucks that we had to play from behind (more often than not by two scores) for all but our first offensive series of the game.

I don't know if as many people would be jumping off the ledge if we hadn't beaten UCF last week but this is the Boneyard so.......
 
Diaco has much to prove. Obviously, anyone who wants him to prove it this years will be very disappointed. Besides UCF, he hasn't really given us a glimmer. Today was a disaster. We were athletic superior and got scorched. It's totally on the coaches because they couldn't win when they fielded superior personnel. Half the stands understood how to stop the option better than Diaco.

So yes. This is on the coaches.
 
This game should put away notion that has been spinning around and plenty are drinking the kool aid that the reason for the record is we do not have the players and Diaco needs to get his guys in for the results to change, as with Stony Brook, not one kid on Army would have received a UCONN offer and our scholarship players would have been on top of their recruiting classes if they went there. Our problem was development/conditioning and poor game planning and lack of adjustments under Coach P and while the former is not true under Diaco we are still seeing the same poor planning and game adjustments under Diaco. We were out-schemed and coached and our players were not put in a position of strength whereas Army took advantage of their strengths and of our scheme which is to prevent big plays which is something Army is not looking to do. Playing a base defense and in a passive mode and putting linebackers at end on three man front made no sense. Move your safeties up, have your big linemen crash and try to bust up some plays and have the linebackers and DB makes stops. Sure, might give up some extra passing yards but better than what we saw with Army marching up and down the field.

We should be 5-4 not 2-7 now as we had better players than Army, Tulane and USF. Instead we are a Foxx Punt return against Stony Brook and a nasty cold, windy and rain storm against UCF team who were not used to those elements from being a winless team. I think Diaco and his staff are experienced, smart and motivated enough to turn this around but they really need to get lot better on their game planning. As when you coach to try not to lose, you often lose, our football coaches like our basketball coaches need to coach to win
 
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No. You are dead wrong. We beat UCF. By definition that means we are not incapable of beating them. But if you look at bodies of work, no rational person can conclude that they are not the better team. Simple enough?

Um, nice try. I was the one who had to point out to you we beat UCF. But in your failed analysis, we would not have the talent to beat UCF because our record was so bad and we lost our good players.
You want simple? Admit you are wrong and stop twisting and changing your narrative.
 
PP had multiple NFL draft picks on the roster he inherited. Diaco has Davis and Jones, they're both out and Smallwood left early. Diaco lost his starting/future QB after 1 game. Lost two of his better players to 4-year transfers (Brown and Phillips). I just named what would have been 6 of our top 10 players coming into the season. I'm not even going to bring up McCombs. There is no doubt that Diaco has struggled from the coaching perspective, but the margin for error has been razor-thin. Whitmer is a great ambassador to the program and looks to be a fine leader but he is probably ranked greater than 100 among college QB's this season. And he's still better that Boyle at this stage. PP drove the program off a cliff and Diaco is collecting the remains at the bottom of the gorge.
 
Um, nice try. I was the one who had to point out to you we beat UCF. But in your failed analysis, we would not have the talent to beat UCF because our record was so bad and we lost our good players.
You want simple? Admit you are wrong and stop twisting and changing your narrative.

Yes. YOu had to point out to me that we beat UCF. Because it's not like I didn't sit outside through the whole game and share my opinions on it.
 
I can't believe people get caught up in the blame game of Pasqualoni vs Diaco vs the players.

WHO CARES?

We lost. To Army. These losses, every new one, are devastating to this program from a perception standpoint.

I simply don't feel coaches and players, PAST AND PRESENT, are doing all they possibly can at this crucial time to prevent them.

This is not the old Big East. We are not playing WVU, Louisville, BC, Pitt, etc. We played Army. Army. 2 weeks after playing ECU tough at their place and beating UCF. Kind of hard to argue the cupboard is that bare that we couldn't get the job done. That should have been a win yesterday. Blame PP. Blame Diaco. Blame the players. Place it wherever you want. Last night should have been a win.
 
Is it the coaches fault that when Foxx came in at QB their corners could get off blocks and our corners couldn't get off blocks all day? We looked totally unprepared to defend the option, but I don't know how much of that was coaching and how much of that was playing. And unless you were in the practices discussing schemes this week, neither did you.
Yes. HCBD is coaching a group of defensive players with about equal talent as Army defenders and you noted the results above, nothing more to be said - it is coaching. Fox in, army has defenders covering width of field; Army has ball, UConn has 2 deep safeties, does not penetrate to disrupt QB and is always out numbered at point of attack - is defensive scheme.
This is astoundingly bad coaching. You are saying that Army guys got off blocks and UConn guys couldn't because of talent? Nooooo, its scheme where at point of attack the defender has buddies to help out number blockers and assist in tackles where UConn was constantly outnumbered at the point of attack. You attack option plays or are on your heals and get beat.
You don't need to be at practice to know it was bad coaching, just look at where players were for UConn on each play to start and then as play progressed. Tackle the damn QB so other players can concentrate on pitch option.
 
True, the forward pass was why Army was able to carve up our defense and win the game.
Good point since Army is one of the best teams in college football. They suck and now UConn sucks worse. The game they play is not at all like the PAC 12 or the Big 12 or SEC.
 
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I was in Section 111 row 2 yelling and screaming all night. Still here actually. I give the fans an A. We come into this game at 2-6 and we had much more of a presence then Army did. When there was a third down we were loud, they were not!

We were in section 203 and our group was terrific and cheered loudly until the bitter end. I was actually impressed with the crowd that shlept into the Bronx to watch a team with a 2-6 record. Hopefully we can recover from what was aterribly disappointing loss.
 
In the parlance of the Internet ... before we were FBS, this was a WTF win followed by a WTF loss. And it was entirely predictable.

Yale? Or Weist?

Remember when Edsall - with a far more in-place culture and system got his butt whipped by Navy? ARMY used this triple option and does it well. It takes lots of repetitions and maybe a few years of playing this type of Program (maybe Yale has seen this a few times) to have a defense - even with experienced D1 guys - to play it well. And then ... Edsall won the next year.

We aren't WORSE than Yale. We simply didn't effectively stop this Army offense on one afternoon in 2014. I don't think Weist would have done any better with Hank Hughes.

The true test of Diaco is coming & it is over time - deal with it. Bunch of whiners.


One correction on this. We got hammered by Navy 41-17 in 2006 & Edsall cancelled the Series. He had seen enough of the Triple option.
 
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