OT: Ahmad Nowell's HS Season Opener

[OceanDoggie]

Hand-eye coordination isn't a skill--it's part of athleticism. USING hand-eye coordination to dribble a basketball through defenders is a skill.

Then you must agree that not every skill can be learned. You try and teach a football player for 20 years and He not achieve the level of control and balance displayed by Nowell. Can't have it both ways. If you argue both sides, you work your argument into a logical fallacy.

 

[OceanDoggie]

Does this mean you think someone can't improve their athleticism? Why do we have an S&C coach making 150k a year? Lol.

Of course it can. The coach is there precisely to do just that.

 

[husky429]

Then you must agree that not every skill can be learned. You try and teach a football player for 20 years and He not achieve the level of control and balance displayed by Nowell. Can't have it both ways. If you argue both sides, you work your argument into a logical fallacy.

Of course not every skill can be learned. Everyone has cognitive and physical limitations. I will never learn the skill of playing chess at a high level because I'm stupid. I will never kick someone in the head again because I injured my back.

I really have no idea what you're getting at. What am I having both ways?

The difference is probably that athleticism can allow for more effective use of skill, and even steepen the skill-learning curve. Whereas skill doesn't really improve athleticism... you have to get in the gym to improve that.

 

[husky429]

Of course it can. The coach is there precisely to do just that.

You're not understanding what you wrote then: "hand-eye coordination can be considered a skill, because it can be improved upon."

What you're implying is that only skills can be improved, which seemed odd. Thanks for clarifying.

 

[OceanDoggie]

The difference is probably that athleticism can allow for more effective use of skill, and even steepen the skill-learning curve. Whereas skill doesn't really improve athleticism... you have to get in the gym to improve that.

..and this, my friend, is the observational differential I see between Nowell and Ball.

 

[husky429]

..and this, my friend, is the observational differential I see beetween Nowell and Ball.

You're thinking you made a really good point here but I still have no idea what argument you think you've won.

I never said Ahmad had less skill than Solo. He's much more skilled than Solo at the same stage of development. I said that half a dozen posts ago.

That doesn't change the fact that Solo is a much better athlete than Ahmad. Stronger, faster, more explosive.

 

[Chin Diesel]

I'd keep in mind that many of the highlights you see are sped up by 10% to make the kids look faster.

Doesn't it also speed up the defense by 10%?

 

[OceanDoggie]

You're not understanding what you wrote then: "hand-eye coordination can be considered a skill, because it can be improved upon."

What you're implying is that only skills can be improved, which seemed odd. Thanks for clarifying.

No Sir, I think your misunderstanding, perhaps, is misattributed to that supposed implication. I've simply juxtaposed H&E coordination to display the inconsistent definition you're using to describe athleticism.

 

[OceanDoggie]

You're thinking you made a really good point here but I still have no idea what argument you think you've won.

Not at all. I think I may have "assisted" you somewhat In agreeing with Me, even if indirectly. It's all good. I enjoyed the chat!

 

[Palatine]

Speaking of freshman, Napier played a ton of point as a frosh. It allowed Calhoun to move Kemba off the ball. That worked out pretty well.

 

[James]

Diarra has been so impressive to me this year, absolutely stellar defender who is hitting shots, making the right passes and gets aggressive downhill with a good first step. Would be kinda shocking if he comes in and is better than diarra, but can't wait to see both of these guys run the show if thats the case.

 

[OceanDoggie]

Diarra has been so impressive to me this year, absolutely stellar defender who is hitting shots, making the right passes and gets aggressive downhill with a good first step. Would be kinda shocking if he comes in and is better than diarra, but can't wait to see both of these guys run the show if thats the case.

I had no expectations of him coming Into the season, but I think with more minutes under his belt he will prove more valuable than Alleyne.

 

[husky429]

Doesn't it also speed up the defense by 10%?

Yes but the average hs player plays defense at about 60% effort, so it still looks slow.

 

[Hurleyman216]

This kid definitely reminds me a little of Kemba the couple times I’ve seen him live, but those are some big shoes to fill. He’s gonna be a 3-4 year stud for us.

 

[aceboon]

This page pretty much posts highlights from every game

 

[CTFAN4LIFE]

Ahmad has incredible power - stout, physical, quick guard that is a handful for players six inches (or more) taller than him. Throw-back Big East guard that will be awesome for the good guys.

 

[husky429]

This page pretty much posts highlights from every game

Most of his full games so far have been posted as well.