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ADB on Ollie

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Who are the basketball boosters that we know about? The only two I know of are Melio and Skinner. IIRC Ray Allen has donated before, too.
 
At this point part of me is like ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ maybe giving him one more year so we can get Akinjo in the door and avoid a mass exodus at the same time Adams and Larrier are most likely leaving isn't the worst thing. It's not like we are going to change conferences by next season. Worst case scenario we suck again. We have dealt with 4 years of mediocre results is what is one more at this point? It is not going to kill the program.

The other part of me recognizes UConn basketball is dead and we will never finish above 8th place in the American again.
 
Penfield said:
At this point part of me is like ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ maybe giving him one more year so we can get Akinjo in the door and avoid a mass exodus at the same time Adams and Larrier are most likely leaving isn't the worst thing. It's not like we are going to change conferences by next season. Worst case scenario we suck again. We have dealt with 4 years of mediocre results is what is one more at this point? It is not going to kill the program.

The other part of me recognizes UConn basketball is dead and we will never finish above 8th place in the American again.
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We're not going to realize UConn basketball is dead until it's already happened.

I don't think we're dead yet, but we can see the train a-comin' and we've tied ourselves to the tracks.

I like Akinjo as much as the next guy, but he's not worth risking the future of the entire program.
 
JMick said:
Who are the basketball boosters that we know about? The only two I know of are Melio and Skinner. IIRC Ray Allen has donated before, too.
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There are a few people in Fairfield County but not enough.
 
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Guapo said:
We're not going to realize UConn basketball is dead until it's already happened.

I don't think we're dead yet, but we can see the train a-comin' and we've tied ourselves to the tracks.

I like Akinjo as much as the next guy, but he's not worth risking the future of the entire program.
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It's insane people are even entertaining keeping a coach because of a player ranked 90-something in the country.
 
Penfield said:
At this point part of me is like ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ maybe giving him one more year so we can get Akinjo in the door and avoid a mass exodus at the same time Adams and Larrier are most likely leaving isn't the worst thing. It's not like we are going to change conferences by next season. Worst case scenario we suck again. We have dealt with 4 years of mediocre results is what is one more at this point? It is not going to kill the program.

The other part of me recognizes UConn basketball is dead and we will never finish above 8th place in the American again.
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We need a rebuild ASAP. Delaying it further, if we have the option not to, just continues to hurt us. If we were in the ACC or B1G it wouldn't matter nearly as much
 
superjohn said:
It's insane people are even entertaining keeping a coach because of a player ranked 90-something in the country.
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Update: we've tied ourselves to the tracks... and we're whistling "Zip-a-dee-doo-dah"
 
mdkhusky said:
That's big because if that's actually true we're screwed
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UCweCONN said:
So those 10 donors who support him will have to go to every game and get extra loud to make up for the 10,000 fans who won't be there.
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Guapo said:
We're not going to realize UConn basketball is dead until it's already happened.
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Considering the groundswell to run KO out if town why cry about other people not being willing to foot the bill to cover KO's buyout?

If there are so many of you, if each one would chip in, the buyout would be covered. That is if you really cared about UConn basketball.
 
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Guapo said:
We're not going to realize UConn basketball is dead until it's already happened.

I don't think we're dead yet, but we can see the train a-comin' and we've tied ourselves to the tracks.

I like Akinjo as much as the next guy, but he's not worth risking the future of the entire program.
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JMick said:
We need a rebuild ASAP. Delaying it further, if we have the option not to, just continues to hurt us. If we were in the ACC or B1G it wouldn't matter nearly as much
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It will all depend on hiring the right person. Another year will not make much difference in that regard unless that coach is available now and not later. If the right coach is not available I don't see the point in making the situation worse simply to make a change. A bad hire would create more problems than one more year of Ollie.
 
Aren't they financially invested? And somewhat forced to bide time, hoping . . . . . . . . . .
 
superjohn said:
It's insane people are even entertaining keeping a coach because of a player ranked 90-something in the country.
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John...its not just him. Its everyone. Let me ask you a serious question. Who is on the roster next yr if Ollie is fired?

Assume Jalen and Terry are gone for sure. Akinjo as well and probably Matthews. You know some of the current roster would be gone as well. Gilbert? Vital? Best case scenario is Gilbert and Vital stay. Do you see something different happening?

The next coach would have no time to recruit and less returning talent. This would be a nightmare.
 
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Guapo said:
Nothing too big.

Most "news-worthy" part is they say the boosters they've spoken to are still in Ollie's corner.

The Kevin Ollie Decision - A Dime Back
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The dubious conclusion of the article certainly leads me to question the entire thing. It concludes that IF UConn hires an outsider he will be successful and leave, therefore we should retain Ollie who will stay because he went to UConn.
A. Yada-yada'd the part where UConn is successful again - any chance of analyzing the odds of that in the Ollie scenario? Isn't the success enough anyway! Wouldn't UConn be able to get another coach if the team is successful?
B. Why assume a coach would leave, sure if you say Duke or Kentucky or UCLA it sounds defacto a coach leaves, but those jobs aren't opening and filling them will be ultra competitive. Back to #1, new coach would probably have to win the national championship at UConn to win the Dook job. Its a stupid, fake scenario, but obvsiously we'd take it.
C. Stuff about keeping players and recruits is insane, we lost 3 players last year, today its a preponderance of evidence of that re-occurring vs stopping the bleeding and as others mention these aren't yet players to prioritize everything for. Maybe with a better coach they would be. Have the best program & coach first, then getting and retaining quality players follows.
D. So the Money is the only valid point in the argument/article. Not exactly news & been debated here at length. We need our fairy godfather to save us.
E. Over-use of -bomb for a dramatic effect that is not achieved. National Championship needs no modifier and the alleged jackpot doesn't seem any more real or possible just cuz you can curse.
 
Guapo said:
Update: we've tied ourselves to the tracks... and we're whistling "Zip-a-dee-doo-dah"
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No, you are being a drama queen, behaving as if you were Pauline, tied to thed tracks by a villain, hoping for a hero to save you.

If you are capable of doing something to resolve the problem, do it. If not, accept that you can't. Just stop crying about it. We already know that you are unhappy, why do you need to constantly remind us?
 
@Guapo @superjohn Sorry I didn't mean to imply that we keep Ollie simply to keep Akinjo. I meant more that if we were not ready to make the move because of financial reasons, not having the support of boosters, or not having the right coach available, one more year of Ollie could actually turn out to help us in the long run simply because we would likely have a more stable roster (with a potentially great PG) after next season.

But if this season somehow were to get even more embarrassing, the right coach was available, or Benedict knows some stuff about Ollie that we don't, then yes you make the move.
 
ZenConn said:
If more identities of the boosters are revealed, this is not going to end well.

Some crazies from the BY will likely stalk these guys.
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The ones that have been discussed in this thread have put themselves out there. Robert Burton has his name on a building too. I have now exhausted my list of known UConn sports boosters.
 
KembaStepback said:
John...its not just him. Its everyone. Let me ask you a serious question. Who is on the roster next yr if Ollie is fired?

Assume Jalen and Terry are gone for sure. Akinjo as well and probably Matthews. You know some of the current roster would be gone as well. Gilbert? Vital? Best case scenario is Gilbert and Vital stay. Do you see something different happening?

The next coach would have no time to recruit and less returning talent. This would be a nightmare.
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I know we're not supposed to speculate transfers but even if Ollie is retained I'd imagine 2-3 current players transfer at seasons end coupled with Jalen and Terry leaving. We're in an awful situation and I understand why many are scared of how barren we may be bringing in a new coach, but a culture change is needed and this program needs hope to be restored. It will take time but hiring a coach like Hurley can help restore that hope, because the fact of the matter is that Ollie will not and can not.
 
Why are people assuming UConn basketball will never recover?

I can't imagine a time where we aren't going to spend top 10-20 money on a coach. I'm sure there are plenty of young upcoming coaches that would come her for cash alone, not to mention giving rebirth to a once proud program.
 
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