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There is just no argument for playing Adams as much as Hurley does. Only Polley has a worse D rating than Adams among players getting meaningful minutes, and Polley has by far the highest O rating on the team among players getting real minutes. His Box +/- is worse than everyone but Sanogo, and Sanogo is a freshman that is coming on strong in recent games. Looking at the advanced stats, Adams is one of the worst almost across the board of the players getting significant minutes.

Yet he is #5 in minutes per game.
 
uconngb said:
79% as a freshman
72% as a sophomore
65% this year

That seem like a good trend Einstein?? Hint: it ain’t getting better.
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24 FT attempts as a freshman
69 (nice) FT attempts as a sophomore
23 FT attempts as a junior.

Ever heard of sample size, Einstein? Comparing freshman year to this year, Adams made four more FTs in his freshman year compared to this year, so the pendulum swing of just four missed FTs affected his percentage by 14%, or, each made FT affected his FT% by ~3.5%.

The ripping of Brendan Adams is by some of you is ridiculous. He's playing because he has to. We have exactly ONE guard off the bench.
 
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Given the current cast of healthy players, who would be the proposed starter if not BA?
Gaff is needed to come off the bench as a ball handler and Polley as a scorer.
 
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sorry just had a spasm on my keyboard. Can't believe the BA defense on here. He is useless except for some nice defensive minutes. Nearly 30 a game is crazy even shorthanded.
 
i believe badams is no fool, and is rolling happily into his role as 'the elder statesman' for the hurley and co. new era, even tho he is not senior in his time served. with no superior skill, his size and mindset let's coach see him as someone, in a pinch, who can adequately cover a spot across the 1-4 positions on the floor. im of the mind that few here actually play the game, this game, and not a video game. like yesterday when we hit a 2nd half lull on o, and it was obvious that we needed to slow butler's roll. a drive, with the goal of at least getting some ft's was appropriate, to change the dynamic, and that's exactly what he did. raf noticed that, and said so.
'what do we need for me to do now, coach?'
 
ClifSpliffy said:
i believe badams is no fool, and is rolling happily into his role as 'the elder statesman' for the hurley and co. new era, even tho he is not senior in his time served. with no superior skill, his size and mindset let's coach see him as someone, in a pinch, who can adequately cover a spot across the 1-4 positions on the floor. im of the mind that few here actually play the game, this game, and not a video game. like yesterday when we hit a 2nd half lull on o, and it was obvious that we needed to slow butler's roll. a drive, with the goal of at least getting some ft's was appropriate, to change the dynamic, and that's exactly what he did. raf noticed that, and said so.
'what do we need for me to do now, coach?'
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"Elder Statesmen," "Professor Emeritus," these are roles in real life. He recently died, but like the Hawthorn Wingo of the Knicks, or Cornbread Maxwell of the Celtics in his later years.


BA is the same for the Huskies . Grandpa motivating the grandchildren. I get it.

A steadying influence who does not always make the way, but does not get in the way either. He has a role.
 
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uconngb said:
Adams played an outstanding game?? What exactly did he do that was outstanding??
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Glue guys don't get 29 minutes either. UConn has four active guards at the moment. Jackson will be back within the next few games, and my guess is Bouk returns shortly after. Adams won't be playing so much going forward, though I'm not totally disappointed with his defense.
 
Not a huge fan of the BY tradition of starting a thread with a player's name and then sharting all over him. Hey Brendan, this is nothing compared to what Taliek Brown used to get, so you are in good company.
 
i luv how we gang rebound, especially our guards. it's like their view of the play unfolding is 'whoa, time to mix up the mess and stick my mug in there. mebbe the ball will pop out of the scrum, and into my hands.' rj is superior at this by digging down, and lately, jmoney has been going high for the tap out. he did it a few times yesterday. in fact, the team is superior at the tap/keep it alive thing, as someone else on the squad usually does corral it. sweetcity.
 
bendm said:
youre the thick one. as already explained:

adam is still shooting over 70% from the line for his career
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What does his career average matter? Not sure I’m following your logic.
 
uconngb said:
79% as a freshman
72% as a sophomore
65% this year

That seem like a good trend Einstein?? Hint: it ain’t getting better.
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If he hits his next four he’s back to 72%. Would that be entirely out of the question? Shouldn’t be. He just did that against St John’s. Does this then make him go from poor to an acceptable shooter in your eyes (as implied)? Just shows how a small sample can be easily manipulated to support a narrative.
 
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Improviser said:
BA is the same for the Huskies . Grandpa motivating the grandchildren. I get it.

A steadying influence who does not always make the way, but does not get in the way either. He has a role.
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BA is never a steadying influence and he does usually get in the way of putting a W on the board. His being given 30 minutes makes getting a W problematic that the rest of the team has to compensate for.

I get the empathy because he seems to care about the program but...
 
Hurley loves him some Adams boy- it’s actually getting funny now -he played 29 minutes yesterday -but I guess who else could you put in right?
 
Jbirdp5 said:
What does his career average matter? Not sure I’m following your logic.
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not surprising...it matters because picking 1 basketball game in which adams went 2/4 from the line, even though he has played 2.5 years worth of basketball games in which he's averaging over 70% from the line, and using that one basketball game to compare adams's free throw shooting to shaq, and then trying to justify the comparison further by saying that in 10 games this season adams is shooting 68% from the line, is stupid.
 
I don't like to talk about individual players as they are 18-22 year old young men but BA has not been good and trending in the wrong direction right now. We all know he is playing far too many minutes based on the circumstances. But at even at full strength we will need him to contribute 12-15 productive minutes a game if we want to get to the promise land. So hopefully he turns things around soon. Def underperforming right now.
 
MuchoDogYears said:
BA is never a steadying influence and he does usually get in the way of putting a W on the board. His being given 30 minutes makes getting a W problematic that the rest of the team has to compensate for.

I get the empathy because he seems to care about the program but...
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Well, if he plays 10 minutes instead, and the others play more, their energy gets sapped, and they play less effectively. Unless you think this should be tried so that we can see the results.

Nothing beats a real time experiment to prove a hypothesis.

Not a question of empathy, but of necessity right now. Hopefully, AJ can get and give a few effective minutes.

Unless the 10 minute Adams brings more W's and no diminution of effectiveness from the player(s) he is spelling based on current circumstances.
 
He's a better player and we're a better team if he can play 10-15 mins a game. He can focus on energy defensively and play more minutes if his shot is falling. When he defends hard and can be the #5 option on offense he has a role that can be useful and productive.

That is not really an option without Bouk.

But even before, Hurley was playing Adams WAY too much relative to his skill level. I think Hurley likes his energy an overlooks the wasted possessions he has on offense hurting the team.
 
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Adams has been given a longer leash than any Hurley recruit and I think Dan Hurley wants him to succeed because he knows Adams is only here because Dan Hurley came here to coach. Doesn't want him to fail since he basically recruited him twice. Gafney and Sanogo and even Jackson in his limited time haven't been given the same opportunity to fail without being yanked. I like his energy but don't feel he should be getting the minutes he does.
 
BigErnMcCracken said:
Hurley is not playing Adams out of a sense of obligation because he was his first recruit. C'mon.
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Not sure if this is for me or not. I never said first recruit or obligation. He has been given a longer leash and I speculated why. Are you gonna say he hasn't been given a longer leash than those other guys? Give any of those three the freedom to make mistakes without a quick hook and they will give this team more than Adams can. Not like I'm rooting against him.
 
bendm said:
not surprising...it matters because picking 1 basketball game in which adams went 2/4 from the line, even though he has played 2.5 years worth of basketball games in which he's averaging over 70% from the line, and using that one basketball game to compare adams's free throw shooting to shaq, and then trying to justify the comparison further by saying that in 10 games this season adams is shooting 68% from the line, is stupid.
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If your saying he will end up more towards his average I get what your saying but his past free throws aren’t helping him this year.
 
In a choice between Gaff and BA I would give an edge to Gaff.

They both have difficulty on D staying in front of their man, BA goes for every head fake while Gaff just doesn’t put in the effort necessary to keep in front.

But Gaff has been showing more on offense than BA, especially recently. He’s a more creative passer, handles the ball better, and has become a decent shooter (BA has regressed).

Until Bouk returns I’d reduce BA to 10-15 minutes and increase Gaff to 20-25. The team would noticeably improve.
 
nelsonmuntz said:
That is just not accurate. Martin can play the 2 for extended minutes. How many teams press us enough that we need 2 true guards on the court, and how much better a ball-handler than Martin is Adams anyway?

UConn is a better team when it goes big.
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These are not independent factors. The number of teams that press will escalate if we decide to play essentially 1 guard.

Further, it's not about Adams' handle being better than Martin's. It's about Adams' handle being better than whomever replaces Martin's spot in the lineup (Polley, Whaley, Carlton, Sanogo), because Martin is playing either way.

I'm not saying that PG, Martin, Polley, big, big can't work at all. But it's a few minutes lineup, and not going to reduce Adams minutes by very much. Because at some point then you have to take out Martin and/or Polley also, and then we're back to the 2 PG lineup that everyone hated when we tried it earlier.
 
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