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Adams a Top Tier PG

Nic moore wasnt a first rounder, joel berry wont go first round, russ smith didnt go first round. These are just guys i can think of right now but you get the gist
 
Right now he is not an NBA player. He is too small to be a shooting guard, and at 43% this year, he has to really become the knockdown shooter, and he can become that, so it will be interesting to see how Ollie uses him this year. I would imagine, he will play both, and depending on how Gilbert does, will depend on what becomes the bigger role for him.
 
RUSS56 said:
Right now he is not an NBA player. He is too small to be a shooting guard, and at 43% this year, he has to really become the knockdown shooter, and he can become that, so it will be interesting to see how Ollie uses him this year. I would imagine, he will play both, and depending on how Gilbert does, will depend on what becomes the bigger role for him.
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Agreed thats a different conversation tho
 
It is kind of a moot point for now, his junior year will tell the story, prospect or suspect? His future as an NBA player has not been determined yet, it will be defined next year.
 
Dogbreath2U said:
We shall see if Adams is the off guard, the PG, or if we have 2 PG's on the floor. I think that Jalen needs to be our #1 playmaker, however that translates to position.
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I see Jalen/Gilbert in the same view as Shabazz/Kemba. Both can play point, but we were better with Kemba off the ball, and Shabazz taking that pressure.

It wasn't until Gilbert got hurt that Jalen really started playing PG. But if Jalen makes the NBA, that's the position he'll play. He's got size, the athleticism, etc, etc. Just needs to continue improving his game.
 
AntG168 said:
Khalid el amin wasnt a first rounder, aj price wasnt a first rounder, boatright wasnt a first rounder, shabazz was barely a first rounder, quinn cook wasnt a first rounder, isaiah thomas wasnt a first rounder. I can name many more. ALL of these guys were top of the line COLLEGE pgs. You cant base how good a college player is on if theyll be great NBA players
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That's a fair point.

But he's still not close to being as good as all of those players were in college either. Every one of those guys were nuch better their last year of college, than Adems was last year. We'll find out how much better he is next year, but we don't yet know.
 
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AntG168 said:
Nic moore wasnt a first rounder, joel berry wont go first round, russ smith didnt go first round. These are just guys i can think of right now but you get the gist
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And last year he wasn't nearly as good as any of those guys either.
 
WingU-Conn said:
And last year he wasn't nearly as good as any of those guys either.
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Agreed. But he's ahead of where most of them were when they were sophmores. If he continues on the course hes going he will ne better than the majority of them
 
If the outside shooting improves he's a top point guard. And he needs to do that because Gilbert will assume some of the playmaking role.
 
One thing I sneaky love about this message board:

Everyone always compares current players to former ones. Is it fair? Absolutely not. Love doing it anyways.
 
GetTheFacts said:
One thing I sneaky love about this message board:

Everyone always compares current players to former ones. Is it fair? Absolutely not. Love doing it anyways.
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I wasn't comparing their game or their style, merely how Kemba Walker, current NBA PG, didn't play PG at UConn because we were a better team with Bazz at point, and Kemba off the ball.

I think the same will be true next year. I think we'll be a more dangerous team with a true PG (AG) running the point, and a potential NBA PG (Adams), playing the 2.

That's not a comparison of the players, only how they were used.
 
WingU-Conn said:
1) I was responding to the OP, he didn't say anything about next year.
2) I was responding to the OP. he said "PG", not "guard".

When I consider the "top" I think top 5-10. Adams is not one of the top 5-10 PGs in the country.

If his game improves as much this offseason as it did last offseason, I expect him to be one of the top 10-15 guards in the country. But he won't be doing it playing as much PG as he does the 2, because Gilbert will be our main point guard.
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Semantics BS aside
JA was definitely one of the top 10 guards in the USA this past season and would venture he will be in the top 5 after next
 
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JA is a very good player, to be elite he must do three things.

1. Improve his left hand.
2. Improve his three point shot.
3. Learn to draw fouls when he takes the ball to the rim.

Do this and he can be a pro.
 
RUSS56 said:
Adams has a long way to go, and I am not saying he won't get there. Right now he is on the NBA watch list, not a player that would be drafted. He certainly has a lot of talent, and this will be a big year for him. What is most disappointing, in the 5 biggest conference games (3 vs Cinn, 2 vs SMU), he shot 14-49 28.6%, and from 3pt range 1-13 7.7%. He definitely has to show he can get it done in the biggest games. That being said, he scored 34 vs Okla St., but the caveat in that game he had 10 turnovers. He certainly has displayed a strong skill set, and if he can tighten up his game over the summer, get stronger, and become a knockdown shooter, his stock will rise quickly. I expect that he will likely step up his game considerably, how much? We have to wait and see.
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Getting physically stronger and better conditioned will help him against the strong defensive teams, as will having better teammates around him. I agree he needs to improve shooting and cut down turnovers. He'll get there.
 
well..he is definitely a talented player.
"top ten" is certainly a designation that is yours. Its personal to you. BUT You might be the only one that feels that way
 
El-Amin was a second round pick and Shabazz was probably only a late first rounder because LeBron talked him up. No one would deny they were top tier PGs at the college level.
 
I have been saying right along that Gilbert is a pure point guard and team leader. If he had not gotten injured this year he would have played 30 minutes a game. While Jalen adjusted this year and really really became better at being the point he is not a natural. He is more of a scorer. Next year he will play the 2 when Gilbert is on the floor. Adams is a much more complete player now after having played the point all year. Ollie wants an Alpha point guard to run the team and that is Gilbert. He is a floor general. Adams will probably average 20ppg playing off the ball 80 to 90% of the game and right now he and Larrier look to be our primary scoring threats. I like Larrier's game but he is a little quick on the trigger, little bit of a gunner.
 
Son of Robert said:
I have been saying right along that Gilbert is a pure point guard and team leader. If he had not gotten injured this year he would have played 30 minutes a game. While Jalen adjusted this year and really really became better at being the point he is not a natural. He is more of a scorer. Next year he will play the 2 when Gilbert is on the floor. Adams is a much more complete player now after having played the point all year. Ollie wants an Alpha point guard to run the team and that is Gilbert. He is a floor general. Adams will probably average 20ppg playing off the ball 80 to 90% of the game and right now he and Larrier look to be our primary scoring threats. I like Larrier's game but he is a little quick on the trigger, little bit of a gunner.
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They tried that last year for the first two games and it failed, though its was a small sample size. I want the ball in Jalen's hands as much as possible, at least to start the season.
 
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My greatest fear is that we are going to waste him. Kid might be the best player in the country next year and I really don't want him to take the Dennis Smith or Fultze route.
 
champs99and04 said:
My greatest fear is that we are going to waste him. Kid might be the best player in the country next year and I really don't want him to take the Dennis Smith or Fultze route.
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He has to greatly improve vs. good teams. OK State he was great but had like 10 turnovers, and he was very mediocre vs cincy and SMU, if he can do that he will be one of the best players in the country
 
Son of Robert said:
I have been saying right along that Gilbert is a pure point guard and team leader. If he had not gotten injured this year he would have played 30 minutes a game. While Jalen adjusted this year and really really became better at being the point he is not a natural. He is more of a scorer. Next year he will play the 2 when Gilbert is on the floor. Adams is a much more complete player now after having played the point all year. Ollie wants an Alpha point guard to run the team and that is Gilbert. He is a floor general. Adams will probably average 20ppg playing off the ball 80 to 90% of the game and right now he and Larrier look to be our primary scoring threats. I like Larrier's game but he is a little quick on the trigger, little bit of a gunner.
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I've got to disagree.

Jalen lead the conference in assists. He is a scoring point guard, which is the way high-major d1 basketball is going.

Very few "pure point guards" exist any more. We haven't had one since before kemba.

Edit: Jalen won't play off the ball that much I guarantee it. We play 2 PGs. That's expected.
 
Just for context and an easy comparison I'll compare Gilbert/Adams with Napier/Boatright and having both players on the floor at the same time. Boatright was never a point guard but some might say we had two out there while he and Napier were on the floor but the offense flowed primarily through Shabazz who had better #1 skills than Ryan.

This coming year I see the same thing happening. Gilbert is going to bring the ball up and general more of the offense. Jalen after progressing this year has better #1 skills than Boatright ever did and will complement Gilbert as a playmaker but he is also our primary #2 guard.

Earlier this year, the first couple of games, neither one of them had a real good handle on it, but I could see Gilbert's confidence rising quickly. Adam's took over being the primary ball handler because he had to. One of the reasons he led the league in assists is that there wasn't anyone else on the team being a playmaker.
 
Your putting Gilbert on a level he has yet to achieve, and certainly he may achieve that, but let him get his feet wet before you have him in the NBA
 
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I don't have him in the NBA. I just have him playing college ball next year. I do understand your sarcasm however and you do have a point, but thanks for saying something that wasn't necessary for me to write.
 
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