AD: If athletes are considered employees, Notre Dame will seek new model

[Kolumbo]

I wouldn't be surprised if some of the elite universities dropped out of the P5 given the state of affairs today. The Ivy League schools seem to be the ideal model for elite institutions, in my opinion. Schools in the Colonial Conference and Patriot League chose to be where they are. Other elite schools such as NYU and BU chose to drop football altogether. Programs like Northwestern and Vandy seem to belong elsewhere.

 

[Kolumbo]

Northwest seems fine where they are. Vandy maybe. What about Duke? (Are they not all 'similar'?)

Duke also. I guess my point is that the elite private universities become less like Harvard and more like Alabama the longer they chase the football money, which I assume is the wrong direction for those universities.

 

[upstater]

Duke also. I guess my point is that the elite private universities become less like Harvard and more like Alabama the longer they chase the football money, which I assume is the wrong direction for those universities.

The amount of money they are pulling in justifies going along with the ruse for awhile.

The only question is, will people keep watching?

 

[Kolumbo]

The amount of money they are pulling in justifies going along with the ruse for awhile.

The only question is, will people keep watching?

Those institutions - elite, private, wealthy - should be above any type of ruse, don't you think? Their bars are pretty high.

 

[upstater]

Those institutions - elite, private, wealthy - should be above any type of ruse, don't you think? Their bars are pretty high.

They already operate many resuses.

 

[HuskyHawk]

The amount of money they are pulling in justifies going along with the ruse for awhile.

The only question is, will people keep watching?

What money? How much do you think they net after expenses? The cost of running stadiums, hiring expensive coaches, travel, scholarships that could go to more worthy students. I don't think there are more than a few schools that truly make any significant amount of money. Sports exist as a marketing arm for the school first and foremost. Schools that are "first choice" schools like Duke or Stanford? They don't need it any more than Harvard or Yale does.

 

[HuskyHawk]

If indeed “Sports exist as a marketing arm for the school first and foremost.” that could still produce an overall net gain - even if sports are not necessarily a profit center. Schools seem to benefit from their respective sports programs in one fashion or another. If not I imagine the current environment would be quite different.

Yes, and many schools do benefit in that regard. Stanford does not. It actually rejects kids who are much better candidates than most of the athletes they accept. Same for many elite academic schools who play sports.

 

[NickyNewark]

Try to be civil. This is not the Cesspool.

Rich.... being "liked" by someone even less popular than myself here. The always civil one himself!!

 

[nd73]

Who is "we"? You jumping on some bandwagon does not make it yours.

God Bless you ..

 

[billybud]

Rich.... being "liked" by someone even less popular than myself here. The always civil one himself!!

Always civil, Nicky. I do understand our differences.

While you watch hockey, I reflect on how much more fun it would be to do my tax return...in roman numerals.

Hey..I'm but I'm a southern football guy and what do I know about hockey, Jersey or Rutgers? I know that car tags in Newark read "The Garden State" and that Rutgers says that they play competitive football.

 

[upstater]

If indeed “Sports exist as a marketing arm for the school first and foremost.” that could still produce an overall net gain - even if sports are not necessarily a profit center. Schools seem to benefit from their respective sports programs in one fashion or another. If not I imagine the current environment would be quite different.

Are you assuming that the people that run universities are capable of making such decisions? A sports budget is but a fraction of the overall university budget. But in terms of the interest of politicians, alumni, boosters, etc., it takes up much more. Most presidents are not going to mess with sports, even if they don't see the benefit or the point. Not worth all the enemies. Remember: presidents like CEOs are short-termers. They make a ton of money. Their job is to hold onto their job as long as they possibly can.