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Pinnacle said:
Without OU and Texas the recruiting at the other schools is sure to suffer. Also, what if the PAC 12 comes calling? If that happens the Big 12 is done!
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I don’t buy that, that’s like saying if Alabama and Auburn left the SEC that recruiting would surely suffer in the SEC. Where losing Texas and Oklahoma hurts the Big 12 is in the financial loss to all the other schools. They could limp along for a few years because the Big 12 would still be a kickass basketball conference, and would still be competitive in football, and that’s where inviting UConn might be a bandaid. Also getting UConn might help in recruiting in all sports outside of the Midwest. I think they might invite UConn and Kentucky or Tennessee.
 
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CONN78SEJ said:
I don’t buy that, that’s like saying if Alabama and Auburn left the SEC that recruiting would surely suffer in the SEC. Where losing Texas and Oklahoma hurts the Big 12 is in the financial loss to all the other schools. They could limp along for a few years because the Big 12 would still be a kickass basketball conference, and would still be competitive in football, and that’s where inviting UConn might be a bandaid. Also getting UConn might help in recruiting in all sports outside of the Midwest. I think they might invite UConn and Kentucky or Tennessee.
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Put the pipe down. Now. For everyone’s sake.
 
CONN78SEJ said:
I don’t buy that, that’s like saying if Alabama and Auburn left the SEC that recruiting would surely suffer in the SEC. Where losing Texas and Oklahoma hurts the Big 12 is in the financial loss to all the other schools. They could limp along for a few years because the Big 12 would still be a kickass basketball conference, and would still be competitive in football, and that’s where inviting UConn might be a bandaid. Also getting UConn might help in recruiting in all sports outside of the Midwest. I think they might invite UConn and Kentucky or Tennessee.
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Except there are no LSUs, Floridas, or Georgias in the Little Eight being left behind. Not a good comparison.
 
CONN78SEJ said:
I don’t buy that, that’s like saying if Alabama and Auburn left the SEC that recruiting would surely suffer in the SEC. Where losing Texas and Oklahoma hurts the Big 12 is in the financial loss to all the other schools. They could limp along for a few years because the Big 12 would still be a kickass basketball conference, and would still be competitive in football, and that’s where inviting UConn might be a bandaid. Also getting UConn might help in recruiting in all sports outside of the Midwest. I think they might invite UConn and Kentucky or Tennessee.
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The difference of course if Bama and Auburn left the SEC you still have Georgia, Florida, LSU, Texas A&M and Tennessee as top level programs for funding and fans.

Texas and OU leave the Big12 and the next tier is Baylor, WVU, Iowa St. Bit of difference there, doncha think?
 
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noeynox said:
Kentucky and Tennessee would leave the SEC for the Big 12 why? They prefer less money over more money?
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If it means not getting beat up in the SEC in football for the next 100 years, yes. Having Tennessee and UConn in the same conference playing men’s and women’s basketball would be almost worth it. If it’s Kentucky, with it’s tradition in basketball, ticket sales and recruiting would benefit both men’s and women’s programs throughout the Big 12. Baylor, UConn, Kentucky or Tennessee, Kansas, Iowa State, K State, and Oklahoma State, would transform the Big 12 conference that would rival the old Big East conference. It’s a long shot of course, but it does save the Big 12 IMHO.
 
Hskies4Ever said:
Except there are no LSUs, Floridas, or Georgias in the Little Eight being left behind. Not a good comparison.
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Look at their records vs all Big 12 schools going back 10 years or so.
 
Chin Diesel said:
The difference of course if Bama and Auburn left the SEC you still have Georgia, Florida, LSU, Texas A&M and Tennessee as top level programs for funding and fans.

Texas and OU leave the Big12 and the next tier is Baylor, WVU, Iowa St. Bit of difference there, doncha think?
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No I don’t think it’s a big difference. Don’t forget TCU, KState and Oklahoma State. TCU still claims they got the shaft a few years back, in the final poll. As I said to the other poster, look at the won lost record going back 10 years or so vs the remaining SEC schools vs the Big 12, if Bama and Auburn ever left. I did say it’s a long shot but it does save the Big 12, across all sports. I will say that if this ever happened, UConn would have to be very careful in accepting an invite. I think Benedict would only do it if he knew who the other invitee would be. If it was Tennessee or Kentucky, I think he would recommend it to the BOT in a heartbeat. If not, they might sit and wait on our independent football program and hope Edsall can have some success on the field.
 
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CONN78SEJ said:
No I don’t think it’s a big difference. Don’t forget TCU, KState and Oklahoma State. TCU still claims they got the shaft a few years back, in the final poll. As I said to the other poster, look at the won lost record going back 10 years or so vs the remaining SEC schools vs the Big 12, if Bama and Auburn ever left. I did say it’s a long shot but it does save the Big 12, across all sports. I will say that if this ever happened, UConn would have to be very careful in accepting an invite. I think Benedict would only do it if he knew who the other invitee would be. If it was Tennessee or Kentucky, I think he would recommend it to the BOT in a heartbeat. If not, they might sit and wait on our independent football program and hope Edsall can have some success on the field.
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You could have just stopped at "No I don't think".
 
CONN78SEJ said:
Look at their records vs all Big 12 schools going back 10 years or so.
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That’s a good point, but there’s a big difference in marketability between LSU and OSU. You make a good point, they can hang on the field, but the demise of the Big 12 will come down to a lack of marketability.
 
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The commissioner of the B12 is being publicly quoted as saying that with the departure of Texas & Oklahoma the TV contract will likely be cut in half yet there are some here trying to justify value in the remnants.

Only on the Boneyard
 
Don’t pick on him. He’ll learn. It is a rude awakening for newbies here. I learned a lot when I arrived at the Boneyard 20 years ago. I had no idea there were fans that knew as much or more than I did when I arrived. He’ll read and learn.
 
bobbyinaz said:
The commissioner of the B12 is being publicly quoted as saying that with the departure of Texas & Oklahoma the TV contract will likely be cut in half yet there are some here trying to justify value in the remnants.

Only on the Boneyard
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At half their current value the Big 12 would still be making more than twice as much as the AAC.
 
metsfan2323 said:
At half their current value the Big 12 would still be making more than twice as much as the AAC.
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True, but how does that make Kansas and Iowa St attractive to the B1G as some here are saying? Or, any of the remaining 8 attractive to the PAC?

The best thing the remaining 8 can do is force Texas & Oklahoma to stay for the remaining 4 years of the contract. That keeps them earning at a high level vs getting a 50% chop when UT & OK bolt. Otherwise they need to bleed UT & OK for every dime they can on the way out the door and play the exit fee game which we are very familiar with
 
Hoophound said:
Don’t pick on him. He’ll learn. It is a rude awakening for newbies here. I learned a lot when I arrived at the Boneyard 20 years ago. I had no idea there were fans that knew as much or more than I did when I arrived. He’ll read and learn.
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Thanks. I’m shocked by all the negativity and a lack of optimism. The disdain for the success of the women’s program and the football program in general by many of the Boneyard members who are mostly male, over 50 (I think), and disrespectful to another’s opinion. It’s almost like it’s not allowed. Lol. This demographic is very, very different from that of the fans I’ve seen at the actual men’s and women’s bball games and the football games.
 
CONN78SEJ said:
Thanks. I’m shocked by all the negativity and a lack of optimism. The disdain for the success of the women’s program and the football program in general by many of the Boneyard members who are mostly male, over 50 (I think), and disrespectful to another’s opinion. It’s almost like it’s not allowed. Lol. This demographic is very, very different from that of the fans I’ve seen at the actual men’s and women’s bball games and the football games.
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Real bad take.

Not as bad as your Big 12 also tans are as good as top SEC teams bit still pretty bad.
 
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Chin Diesel said:
Real bad take.

Not as bad as your Big 12 also tans are as good as top SEC teams bit still pretty bad.
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It’s a real bad take when you slightly misquote me to make a garbage point. In any event, thanks for proving my point in my post you were responding to.
 
CONN78SEJ said:
Thanks. I’m shocked by all the negativity and a lack of optimism. The disdain for the success of the women’s program and the football program in general by many of the Boneyard members who are mostly male, over 50 (I think), and disrespectful to another’s opinion. It’s almost like it’s not allowed. Lol. This demographic is very, very different from that of the fans I’ve seen at the actual men’s and women’s bball games and the football games.
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It's not personal. We've just been nutkicked so often and so bad by conference realignment we don't know how to act. Welcome to the board. All UConn fans welcomed. The busting the chops is itself welcoming.
 
Welcome aboard. You will occasionally get savaged if you have an opinion that differs from the standard but that’s ok. We are all UConn fans here.

I tend to think Texas and especially OU will struggle in the SEC long term. Finishing 7-5 every year is finishing 7-5 regardless of the opponent. It doesn’t really matter that Alabama and Georgia are the two best teams in the country when the curb stomp you. Gonna be lots of turn over in the head coaching jobs at those 2 schools. It was one thing for A&M. They were pepetual 2nd fiddle to Texas and OU. Now they are 2nd fiddle to Alabama and Georgia. But when you are top dog it isn’t quite the same.
 
freescooter said:
Welcome aboard. You will occasionally get savaged if you have an opinion that differs from the standard but that’s ok. We are all UConn fans here.

I tend to think Texas and especially OU will struggle in the SEC long term. Finishing 7-5 every year is finishing 7-5 regardless of the opponent. It doesn’t really matter that Alabama and Georgia are the two best teams in the country when the curb stomp you. Gonna be lots of turn over in the head coaching jobs at those 2 schools. It was one thing for A&M. They were pepetual 2nd fiddle to Texas and OU. Now they are 2nd fiddle to Alabama and Georgia. But when you are top dog it isn’t quite the same.
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What makes you say that about Oklahoma?
 
freescooter said:
Welcome aboard. You will occasionally get savaged if you have an opinion that differs from the standard but that’s ok. We are all UConn fans here.

I tend to think Texas and especially OU will struggle in the SEC long term. Finishing 7-5 every year is finishing 7-5 regardless of the opponent. It doesn’t really matter that Alabama and Georgia are the two best teams in the country when the curb stomp you. Gonna be lots of turn over in the head coaching jobs at those 2 schools. It was one thing for A&M. They were pepetual 2nd fiddle to Texas and OU. Now they are 2nd fiddle to Alabama and Georgia. But when you are top dog it isn’t quite the same.
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I completely disagree about Texas. I believe Texas will do better in the SEC than they have in the last decade in the Big 12. Texas is similar to UConn. The better the conference we play in (and the more regional rivals), the more buzz there is around the program and the players, coaches, and recruits feed off of that. The current Big 12 does not provide Texas many rivals. Oklahoma and Texas Tech are their two major rivals in the Big 12 right now, and Oklahoma is coming with them to the SEC. In the SEC, Texas plays Oklahoma, A&M, Missouri, Arkansas, and LSU. The fan base is going to go nuts and the players will feed off of it.

Texas and UConn are outliers. Generally, when a program steps down or plays in a diminished league, they are better relative to the competition (which would make sense). However, when you step down and lose all of your rivals, the fan base erodes and players feel it. We should have been the premier football program in the AAC. We were not because the fanbase wasn't interested in USF, UCF, Houston, or Tulsa-and the players and recruits felt that.
 
shizzle787 said:
We should have been the premier football program in the AAC. We were not because the fanbase wasn't interested in USF, UCF, Houston, or Tulsa-and the players and recruits felt that.
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This… along with a variety of other factors.
 
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shizzle787 said:
I completely disagree about Texas. I believe Texas will do better in the SEC than they have in the last decade in the Big 12. Texas is similar to UConn. The better the conference we play in (and the more regional rivals), the more buzz there is around the program and the players, coaches, and recruits feed off of that. The current Big 12 does not provide Texas many rivals. Oklahoma and Texas Tech are their two major rivals in the Big 12 right now, and Oklahoma is coming with them to the SEC. In the SEC, Texas plays Oklahoma, A&M, Missouri, Arkansas, and LSU. The fan base is going to go nuts and the players will feed off of it.

Texas and UConn are outliers. Generally, when a program steps down or plays in a diminished league, they are better relative to the competition (which would make sense). However, when you step down and lose all of your rivals, the fan base erodes and players feel it. We should have been the premier football program in the AAC. We were not because the fanbase wasn't interested in USF, UCF, Houston, or Tulsa-and the players and recruits felt that.
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I don’t think the fan base hired Bob Diaco.
 
shizzle787 said:
We should have been the premier football program in the AAC. We were not because the fanbase wasn't interested in USF, UCF, Houston, or Tulsa-and the players and recruits felt that.
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I don't think so...it's all about hiring the wrong coaches. PP could have worked if he hired the right assistants. He had some decent players....but GDL was an anchor. Diaco was beyond awful. He had no idea what he was doing... especially with recruiting.

Fans would have cared if the product was decent...it wasn't.
 
ShakyTheMohel said:
Fans would have cared if the product was decent...it wasn't.
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BB had a decent team and didn't support the product. People forget that FB was sold on playing Top 5 teams with name value like The U. No one signed up for UCF and Houston much less ECU and Tulsa.
 
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