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boog204 said:
But who would want to? With NIL and playing time and everything else, why would anyone want to come here to not play and probably not get much in NIL? I know some are going to say "development" or "UConn" or whatever, but the landscape has changed. Kids want to play and get paid. Not be cheerleaders and practice players.
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Well
Said!!
 
Fishy said:
Is it now time to crap on the player or wonder why we recruited someone who either could not play or we recruited someone who could play but we didn’t play him?
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No
 
MilliniumPrince said:
Higher level than that
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Makes you wonder how much higher level D1 teams are willing to pay for him considering he is completely unproven at the collegiate level.
 
Ryan Boatright had it right about these crazy transfer rules today.
There is a downside of going from place to place for a young player as it could impact their ovrtall development vs someone who stays ,unless you were obviously a bad fit ,you go into your second year understanding the system so the only thing your working on is personal improvement . When you transfer its like starting over.
its a bit diffrent for more mature players .
Im not sure on why this kid didnt play especially with Liam missing 6 weeks .
That class had so much promise but recruiting and development of players seems to be a obsolete model.
 
AZHuskiePop said:
Ryan Boatright had it right about these crazy transfer rules today.
There is a downside of going from place to place for a young player as it could impact their ovrtall development vs someone who stays ,unless you were obviously a bad fit ,you go into your second year understanding the system so the only thing your working on is personal improvement . When you transfer its like starting over.
its a bit diffrent for more mature players .
Im not sure on why this kid didnt play especially with Liam missing 6 weeks .
That class had so much promise but recruiting and development of players seems to be a obsolete model.
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Most players switching schools every year are chasing $$$$ and not worried about development for a pro career.
 
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WhereistheDove? said:
This felt like an obvious one. Being a developmental type guy in the era of the portal, where you can just go to a lesser program and get immediate PT (and then potentially portal back up a level) feels like a hard sell. Fun athlete to watch though, will be excited to see what he can do at his next stop.
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There are developmental guys like Abraham who have some skill already and are just behind other (older/better) players and there are developmental guys who really need the coaching but have the body. The first type should go to a program they can play at. The second should go/stay with the place they can actually get the best coaching daily for a few years.
 
I would think less than 25% of players in the portal are actually chasing money. Unless you’re performing well at the mid-major level you’re going after playing time.

I can’t think anyone is shelling cash out for an Abraham/Diggins/Gaffney type guy.
 
I'm not sure if it is fair to lump Abraham with Diggins & Gaffney. Diggins looked slow and hesitant in his few minutes in a UConn uniform on the floor. Gaffney had moments, but didn't score consistently and wasn't a great defender. The few minutes (yes, mostly in garbage time) Abraham impressed. He played tough defense. He hit a few 3's. Still think he's going to be a quality player in a few years.
 
CTBasketball said:
I would think less than 25% of players in the portal are actually chasing money. Unless you’re performing well at the mid-major level you’re going after playing time.

I can’t think anyone is shelling cash out for an Abraham/Diggins/Gaffney type guy.
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I get transferring out for playing time, but at some point these kids need to understand that only 5 people can be on the floor at any given time. I would assume guys would know what and who they are up against, especially if they came here as freshman. It just seems strange to me that you’ll commit to UConn as a freshman and think you’ll automatically see all this time even though you have upperclassmen and transfers ahead of you. Why not start at a mid major or something can’t more playing time and then transfer for in v. going the other route of basically wasting a year.
 
BPT2Storrs said:
I get transferring out for playing time, but at some point these kids need to understand that only 5 people can be on the floor at any given time. I would assume guys would know what and who they are up against, especially if they came here as freshman. It just seems strange to me that you’ll commit to UConn as a freshman and think you’ll automatically see all this time even though you have upperclassmen and transfers ahead of you. Why not start at a mid major or something can’t more playing time and then transfer for in v. going the other route of basically wasting a year.
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They all think they are going to play, until they don't.
 
3rdbass said:
Too bad he looked like he had a real good skillset and top notch athlete. Hard to get a chance though with all the players we had in front of him including Jayden Ross who Hurley loved for some weird reason.
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Some inexplicable reason
 
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Spaceman213J said:
I'm not sure if it is fair to lump Abraham with Diggins & Gaffney. Diggins looked slow and hesitant in his few minutes in a UConn uniform on the floor. Gaffney had moments, but didn't score consistently and wasn't a great defender. The few minutes (yes, mostly in garbage time) Abraham impressed. He played tough defense. He hit a few 3's. Still think he's going to be a quality player in a few years.
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LMAO that you’re negatively comparing a rotation player for a Final Four team, and a guy who was starting on UConn when it started turning the corner right before covid, to a guy who impressed you in a few minutes of garbage time.
 
BPT2Storrs said:
I get transferring out for playing time, but at some point these kids need to understand that only 5 people can be on the floor at any given time. I would assume guys would know what and who they are up against, especially if they came here as freshman. It just seems strange to me that you’ll commit to UConn as a freshman and think you’ll automatically see all this time even though you have upperclassmen and transfers ahead of you. Why not start at a mid major or something can’t more playing time and then transfer for in v. going the other route of basically wasting a year.
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He committed to UConn before McNeeley did and it also wasn't a guarantee that Karaban would be here for a 3rd year, two positions he coud have played that were taken off the table if he couldn't outplay two other soph wings that already had a year in the system. Once Karaban came back in addition to the McNeeley commit it was a given that one of Abraham/Ross/Stewart was gonna get squeezed out, with AK hardly ever leaving the floor and then Dan Hurley giving McNeeley unlimited rope it affected multiple guys competing for minutes at the 3/4 swing spots.
 
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The staff was probably very honest with him and said there would be no guarantee for him to get meaningful minutes next season which is why he ultimately made this decision. Some guys are fine with riding the pine for a couple years (Samson, Singare), but others want to play ASAP and there is nothing wrong with that. Wish him the best, but hope he doesn't end up in the Big East lol.
 
ted920 said:
Would not be surprised to see him wind up at Marquette. He almost went there and has close family connections there.
I really feel we will regret this. He's talented.
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No regrets but yeah he could be David Joplin in 2 years
 
boog204 said:
But who would want to? With NIL and playing time and everything else, why would anyone want to come here to not play and probably not get much in NIL? I know some are going to say "development" or "UConn" or whatever, but the landscape has changed. Kids want to play and get paid. Not be cheerleaders and practice players.
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How did Springs do when he left "developmental center for UConn" to "Quinnipiac player"? The developmental guys aren't ready for PT.

But Dan Hurley isn't all that worried about filling position 13, so I doubt it happens all that much.

The new scholarship limits are more about football factories and redshirt freshman. No more Blueshirts.
 
Wish Isiah the best going forward. I am at the point where I placed blind faith in the staff. I figure they have a plan and will execute it accordingly. I won’t allow myself to get emotional on anyone leaving, ANYONE, until I see how the staff responds.
 
Hope he finds success. Didn’t really have a path to playing at UConn. Probably the right move.
 
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Reached by phone on Thursday afternoon, Faisal (Isaiah's father) told CT Insider: "He was trying to get feedback from the staff, and maybe that didn't align with his future. He wasn't sure of how it was going to go. He really likes the school, the fans, loves his teammates. He totally respects UConn's coaching staff and wants what's best for them. Eventually, at some point, he'll figure out what's best for him."

Asked if a return to UConn was a possibility, Faisal added: "Never say never."


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UConn men's basketball forward Isaiah Abraham will enter NCAA transfer portal: 'Figure out what's best for him'​

 
HooperScooper said:
Reached by phone on Thursday afternoon, Faisal (Isaiah's father) told CT Insider: "He was trying to get feedback from the staff, and maybe that didn't align with his future. He wasn't sure of how it was going to go. He really likes the school, the fans, loves his teammates. He totally respects UConn's coaching staff and wants what's best for them. Eventually, at some point, he'll figure out what's best for him."

Asked if a return to UConn was a possibility, Faisal added: "Never say never."


Alternate access:

UConn men's basketball forward Isaiah Abraham will enter NCAA transfer portal: 'Figure out what's best for him'​

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That's interesting. Chances he is looking for guaranteed playing time and Uconn can't offer it?

My guess is the staff told him he is looking at Ross / Stewart PT (5-10 min per) and he wants 20+. Gonna see if there is any school offering him a starting spot.
 
If he couldn't get off of the bench for this past years team, he's no good enough for even CCSU or Quinnipiac. He's Fairyfield of Sacred Heart material IMO
 
There were plenty of games that Danny could have given Abraham, Singnare, and Nowell more meaningful minutes he just seldom did. I'm not a fan of that for multiple reasons, but good, bad, or indifferent this is some of the fallout from that.

There were games the previous two years he got his son in who was not a Top 75 recruit in games that he just kept these kids on the bench. I'd be pissed if I was in that position.
 
HooperScooper said:
Are you saying someone in his camp or the coaching staff pushed him out? If it's the latter then what's the point of recruiting any kids rated outside of the top 15 or 20 who would start from day one? I'm sure he got better in the last season and not worse. If Hurley isn't willing to stick with a kid he recruited past 1 season then just don't recruit kids like Abraham (rated composite #76 on 247Sports).
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It seems after the 2nd title he stopped, look at the rankings of the guys they were involved with for the 2025 class, nobody really outside of the top 30. Furphy doesn't count as it seems 247 just assigned him a random ranking.
 
HooperScooper said:
Are you saying someone in his camp or the coaching staff pushed him out? If it's the latter then what's the point of recruiting any kids rated outside of the top 15 or 20 who would start from day one? I'm sure he got better in the last season and not worse. If Hurley isn't willing to stick with a kid he recruited past 1 season then just don't recruit kids like Abraham (rated composite #76 on 247Sports).
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Often times these are mutual decisions based on the PT expected for the player moving forward. If Abraham got the feedback that he likely wasn’t going to be in the rotation next year (very possible since he didn’t crack a pretty weak rotation this year), he could have wanted more PT. It’s very hard with the portal/ ease of movement for players to make a case for a guy to just sit on the end of the bench and wait their turn for a few years.
 
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