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Using just that metric, UConn is already ahead of several AAU schools. Just to name a few... Indiana, Missouri, Stony Brook, Carnegie Mellon, Oregon...I stopped comparing, so probably more I did not notice.
IU took a big hit 3 or 4 years ago when they separated the IU Med Center in Indianapolis from the Bloomington campus totals and started calculating IUPUI as a separate school. I believe most of the research dollars now under IUPUI was under IU before. Note that IUPUI is 71st now and IU is 100th. Just FYI nothing more.
 
IU took a big hit 3 or 4 years ago when they separated the IU Med Center in Indianapolis from the Bloomington campus totals and started calculating IUPUI as a separate school. I believe most of the research dollars now under IUPUI was under IU before. Note that IUPUI is 71st now and IU is 100th. Just FYI nothing more.

Nebraska got hit because they dropped USDA agricultural grants from top tier "phase 1" to the second tier "phase 2." Being Nebraska, the aggie grants from the USDA were huge in their metrics. Most of their funding came from the USDA. When they dropped them in importance, their metrics dropped below the criteria. The AAU claimed that these grants ". . . generally aren't allocated through competitive, merit-review processes." Link to Document

Now, one could argue that they changed the criteria to put Nebraska below the threshold. I really don't know. It was a really close vote and made it only by 2 votes.
 
IU took a big hit 3 or 4 years ago when they separated the IU Med Center in Indianapolis from the Bloomington campus totals and started calculating IUPUI as a separate school. I believe most of the research dollars now under IUPUI was under IU before. Note that IUPUI is 71st now and IU is 100th. Just FYI nothing more.

Average research dollars per professor is more important than total numbers so these separations don't necessarily change AAU standing much. Also, some of the R&D expenditures aren't counted by AAU (e.g. not peer reviewed).
 
Here's PSU. Looks familiar minus the medical school. Ours is located in Hershey, PA. If you haven't been there leave now and go. The entire town smells like chocolate. More to the point of the thread, other than a smaller enrollment UCONN fits the profile. The B1G is 100% where you guys belong. I've always believed that and hope to see it come to fruition.

I can vouch the the chocolate scent in Hershey. I took the family there for a long weekend. Still waiting for my wife to return :)

PS - Just remember if UConn does join the B1G, UConn's Dairy Bar > Penn St's Creamery :cool:
 
If we were 'offered AAU status,' why would we not accept it? I can't imagine the University turning it down for any reason.
Catholic schools may turn down membership / not seek affiliation with AAU, Notre Dame being a case in point. Research into areas contrary to theological doctrine would be a problem. I do not believe (could be wrong) there are any Catholic schools presently in AAU. Nor is BYU…perhaps for similar reasons.
 
Catholic schools may turn down membership / not seek affiliation with AAU, Notre Dame being a case in point. Research into areas contrary to theological doctrine would be a problem. I do not believe (could be wrong) there are any Catholic schools presently in AAU. Nor is BYU…perhaps for similar reasons.

Orkney Rd. in Brighton/Brookline?
 
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Catholic schools may turn down membership / not seek affiliation with AAU, Notre Dame being a case in point. Research into areas contrary to theological doctrine would be a problem. I do not believe (could be wrong) there are any Catholic schools presently in AAU. Nor is BYU…perhaps for similar reasons.

Just took a look, while some of the private AAU members did have a religious founding, such as most of the Ivy League, it looks like all look to be independent today. No BYU, BC, ND, etc.

http://www.aau.edu/about/default.aspx?id=16710
 
Nebraska got hit because they dropped USDA agricultural grants from top tier "phase 1" to the second tier "phase 2." Being Nebraska, the aggie grants from the USDA were huge in their metrics. Most of their funding came from the USDA. When they dropped them in importance, their metrics dropped below the criteria. The AAU claimed that these grants ". . . generally aren't allocated through competitive, merit-review processes." Link to Document

Now, one could argue that they changed the criteria to put Nebraska below the threshold. I really don't know. It was a really close vote and made it only by 2 votes.

If the schools funding comes from political pork, the AAU holds it against you. As for hospitals, the AAU wants to know how much research is going on. A lot of schools have high research budgets for their medical centers, but the reality is that the money is being used otherwise. For teaching, for instance.
 
Catholic schools may turn down membership / not seek affiliation with AAU, Notre Dame being a case in point. Research into areas contrary to theological doctrine would be a problem. I do not believe (could be wrong) there are any Catholic schools presently in AAU. Nor is BYU…perhaps for similar reasons.

BYU tenures faculty for.... NOT conducting research and NOT publishing or writing.
 
I can vouch the the chocolate scent in Hershey. I took the family there for a long weekend. Still waiting for my wife to return :)

PS - Just remember if UConn does join the B1G, UConn's Dairy Bar > Penn St's Creamery :cool:
Gotta say I was at Penn State recently and, of course, tried their ice cream. They are a worthy #2.
 
So, B1G....Are we in?
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So, B1G....Are we in?
Well, let's jump in the TARDIS; set the controls for 2014. We're going back in time to a B1G campus. A university with a collection of colleges of engineering that are ranked fifth in the nation--tops in the B1G. On this fall afternoon, the university is hosting a bioengineering symposium while celebrating breaking-ground on its first college in six decades--a bioengineering medical school.

Two hundred invitees are present. The five member organizing committee, with the close involvement of the university's president, invites twenty-eight university representatives to appear on the guest speakers list. All speakers are from AAU member universities, except two...
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One idea behind getting prominent professors to colleges -- such as Nobel Prize winners in the sciences -- is they bring their entire lab with them to the new campus and the money tends to follow them. That includes government research dollars and grants from private foundations. The AAU is not only looking at which university is ranked where in research dollars. they also look at the prestige of the place. I believe some of the colleges trying to get into the AAU may have more total research dollars than some current members -- but could be wrong. The AAU more than anything is a relatively small group which represents the interests of U.S. research universities. Moreover, many state universities have Nobel Prize winners on their faculty. For instance, Iowa State has had a few Nobel Prize winners on its faculty. Cal Berkeley has a huge number of them. One unfortunate thing is that the only UConn grad to ever won a Nobel Prize, David Lee, moved his lab from Cornell to Texas A&M. I don't know if UConn was ever trying to recruit him. Because the faculty union wants all professors to get paid as much as possible, many current professors may be hesitant to hire world-famous professors -- at higher salaries. That is why it is better to fund the salaries of Nobel Prize winners through private funds. Also, B10 research-heavy schools like Michigan, Wisconsin, Minnesota or Illinois would be impressed if UConn had some Nobel Prize winners -- even if UConn had not yet gotten AAU status. The AAU would be impressed, too. Beyond this, having introductory courses or advanced courses taught by a Nobel Prize winner is helpful when trying to attract top students to a college or graduate program. I am sure these are all things that Susan Herbst understands very well. She is a highly respected university leader.
Wouldn't it just be easier to make up fake professors, fake research labs, and fake classes, like North Carolina did for 30 years?
 
Gotta say I was at Penn State recently and, of course, tried their ice cream. They are a worthy #2.

I will second this. I have to drive by State College every time I go back to CT. I hate pretty much everything about PSU. But there's no denying they make one of the best milkshakes anywhere.
 
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