AA awards

[bballnut90]

Let's dig into the bolded part for just a second .
MSU out of conference included: Georgia State, Southern Missouri, Ivy league Power house Columbia, La-Lafayette, Little Rock Arkansas, American East powerhouse Maine and you want to equate that to the UCONN OOC schedule?

Mississippi State has wins against Oregon, Tennessee, Missouri, Green Bay, and South Carolina. As I said, both have faced tough competition.

I'm surprised you decided to nitpick that minor detail rather than respond to the rest of the post I made.

 

[nwhoopfan]

This is tangential, but both of the Ogwumikes added 3 point shooting to their repertoire by their Jr. or Sr. year. They didn't hit a bunch of them, but a good enough percentage you had to go out and guard them.

 

[Rixxx]

All I know is McGowan did not bring it last night vs SC. Yes, she got 20 boards, but I thought she was slow and rushed her shots which turned into misses. I guess I would be looking for consistency against all comers.
First team AA, she needs more work to reach that level of recognition. IMHO.

 

[Golden Husky]

McCowan's numbers are better than Cox's, and she's had huge games against very good teams. Advantage McCowan over Cox.

Team success does matter for these awards. You wont see Natalie Butler on any team even though she's having a great season in her own right--her team is bad. Vivians is playing much better than she did a year ago when she was shooting in the 35-40% range and will get recognized this season. Same with McCowan. How many players on undefeated or 1-loss teams who average about 20ppg get left off 1st and 2nd team? My guess is close to zero. Both will make it.

Mitchell's year has been underwhelming compared to previous years and her team is falling short of expectations, so I don't see her being rewarded with 1st team. Voters put the players having the best seasons on the top AA team. Mitchell hasn't had one of the best seasons this year, while KLS has. Simple as that.

In regards to MSU vs. UCONN....they're both undefeated and have played tough competition, so one being ranked above the other is negligible right now. The way I see it, McCowan and Vivians will both make 1st or 2nd team, KLS makes first team, Nurse is on 2nd or 3rd, and one other UCONN player makes 3rd team. Mississippi State's 2 standouts have better numbers and resumes than Nurse/Williams/Collier/etc. so they'll get an edge over those players. UCONN has a deeper pool of AA candidates, and will get more players on the top 3 team than Mississippi State. For the WBCA AA awards, Mississippi State will get 2, UCONN will get 2 or 3.

The Carter reference was for making 3rd team AP AA, not the WBCA list. I don't think she's a strong candidate for making a top 10 team, but she should be in the mix for top 15. Whether she makes it or not is a different story, but she's definitely an AA candidate at this point.

And as far as AP voters--they had no problem acknowledging they guessed wrong by giving UCONN's AA trio 0 combined votes in the 2016-17 preseason poll. Voters will recognize who is having the best season and reward the deserving players. It's an negligible concern.

Others are far better equipped to engage in this debate than I am but I'll make one point: Judging Nurse and Williams by their "numbers" does a disservice to how each plays defense with a fierce determination and how each impacts the game in so many other ways.

 

[nwhoopfan]

McGowan also had a sub par game against Tennessee and Russell several weeks ago. I think it was a South Carolina fan that pointed out she didn't do very well head to head against teams that had players similar in size to her last year. That seems to be holding true this year as well, although against everybody else she's been fairly dominant.

 

[bballnut90]

McGowan also had a sub par game against Tennessee and Russell several weeks ago. I think it was a South Carolina fan that pointed out she didn't do very well head to head against teams that had players similar in size to her last year. That seems to be holding true this year as well, although against everybody else she's been fairly dominant.

Against Oregon she went up against 6-4, 6-4, and 6-5 and had 35 points and 19 boards. She didn’t dominate offensively against UT or SC, but she had 20 rebounds yesterday and outrebounded Mercedes Russell 18 to 4. Both Russell and Wilson disappeared as the game went on while McCowan got stronger. In both games she seemed a bit tentative early, and once settled down she really started playing well and was effective on both ends which helped turn the tide.

 

[dogfan96]

Yea, Mississippi State really challenged themselves with that OOC schedule.
I want to make sure I'm reading this correctly?
How many OOC games did MSU play on the road?
ONE?
What do you mean ONE?
UNLV in Vegas? Alright it was Vegas so I can't be too mad at you!
That's it-ONE road game OOC?
MSU scheduled Mississippi Valley State Devilettes and you made Devilettes come to Starkville to take a 76 point beat down? That is some shameful ish right there!
So that Mississippi Valley State Devilettes squad must be a pretty good team them right?
No?
What do you me no?
What do you mean Mississippi Valley State Devilettes have only won ONE game this year?
That can't be right?
That would put Mississippi Valley State Devilettes like at the bottom of all D1 WCBB programs wouldn't it?

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Yes they make a point of giving paydays to the smaller in-state schools, as well as playing USM. I won't bother running down the murderer's row of the AAC. I'm not debating whose OOC is better but I'll quote the original poster AGAIN.. both teams have played tough competition.

 

[happymonsters]

Mississippi State's OOC schedule is interesting to say the least. It's essentially all home games and neutral site tournaments (though I suppose UNLV is technically an away game). That said, McGowan is probably on the WBCA first team, but I'm not sure she will make the AP first team. I don't see them taking three bigs, and Brown and Wilson are ahead of her.

 

[MSGRET]

Actually two, the UNLV and Syracuse games were played at the Cox Pavilion on 12/20 and 12/21 as part of the Christmas in the Desert Tournament. Cox Pavilion is where the Lady Rebels play their home games.

 

[NoelAustin]

All I want from this season is for Kia to become a HoH, UConn to extend their FF streak, Lou to play in her first national championship game, and the most deserving Husky to be FF MOP.