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Message: [QUOTE="UCan3, post: 4737708, member: 11446"] While I agree the penalty helped knock of us off what was otherwise a good comeback in the making, think this play is getting more attention than it deserves. Where we ever in a position to win the game? The Answer is no. We didn’t do the things we needed to do - force turnovers, stop the QB from running all over us all game, and our QB could not throw downfield and he stopped running effectively after than first round of plays. Not worried about pissin’ off opponents, they have all the incentive they need to win games. This one was failure to execute and play to win the game. There were many opportunities that was missed that left me thinking - NC State was the better team who also got some assistance from the Stripes. We need to focus on eliminating dumb penalties - yes - but there was far more important things that explain why we lost the game. Good teams can play through these types of things - we did not. Live, Learn and thankful V Rosa is on our team - he‘ll learn but let us move on. [/QUOTE]