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a higher seed may be just what we need

auror said:
Ideally we get to the 6 seed. At least one of Florida or Houston is going to end up as a 2 and I'd rather not spin that roulette wheel. Let's get to the Sweet 16 before playing an analytical monster.
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100% I just don’t know what our chances of jumping 2-3 lines are at this point. We could forget about it with a loss to StJ Sunday. We’d have to practically win out at this rate.
 
Not having had Liam (arguably our best player) for a long stretch makes our record somewhat skewed. We will likely be seeded a few lines below where we would have been if he had been healthy all year, playing, learning more team chemistry etc... Whomever gets us in first two games is not going to be happy.
 
3rdbass said:
Yeah but it is more about Physicality that we have issus with. Think St. John's but on steroids. Duke i'm not worried about even if they have Copper Flagg. They are still soft and more of a Finesse team from what I have seen.
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And if the game is in Raleigh, Duke will be in the bonus by the under 12 timeout.
 
RuffRuff said:
Hmmm. Duke is enormous, Houston is tiny.
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maybe but the coaching makes the difference- Sampson is the best coach in the NCAA
Scheyer wilts in the tight games
 
If we end up a 7-10 seed, the 1/2 seed bracketed to face us (assuming we win) is NOT gonna be happy to see our name pop up opposite them on Selection Sunday, that's for sure.
 
Uconn77Duke74 said:
Not having had Liam (arguably our best player) for a long stretch makes our record somewhat skewed. We will likely be seeded a few lines below where we would have been if he had been healthy all year, playing, learning more team chemistry etc... Whomever gets us in first two games is not going to be happy.
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Eh, I don't know how much stock (if any) the committee will put in McNeeley being out. I mean we had him all 3 games of the Maui massacre, along with the Seton Hell game.
 
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If they had beaten Colorado and shall I don't think we'd be having this convo and UConn would be looking more like a 5 seed, fringe 4. Those are some of the worst regular season losses any UConn team that can be described as good or better has ever had. Not counting the NEastern and Wagner losses as that wasn't a good UConn team that year.

(In fact I wonder what the worst regular season loss a +20 win UConn team has ever had)
 
ctbro1999 said:
Eh, I don't know how much stock (if any) the committee will put in McNeeley being out. I mean we had him all 3 games of the Maui massacre, along with the Seton Hell game.
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Yeah the Seton Hall loss all but killed that notion. That loss was brutal on so many levels. We’re not getting any credit for injuries. There have been a ton of injuries across the sport.

As for Sampson vs Scheyer, irony is that Scheyer beat him in the tourney last year. The one thing about these defense heavy teams is they tire out.
 
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Fishy said:
Yep.

These people are out of their gourd if they think we’re better off playing a one seed.

Have any of them watched any of Auburn’s games?
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Exactly. One seeds are teams typically without flaws. To beat a one seed you have to play 40 minutes of your best basketball. I can’t think of a game where UConn played their best basketball for 30 minutes of a game this season.
This team desperately needs to go on a run and get a 6th. They can beat an 11 seed, and have a decent shot against a 3 seed. That would get the team into sweat 16 and make the season a success.
 
Scottobot said:
Exactly. One seeds are teams typically without flaws. To beat a one seed you have to play 40 minutes of your best basketball. I can’t think of a game where UConn played their best basketball for 30 minutes of a game this season.
This team desperately needs to go on a run and get a 6th. They can beat an 11 seed, and have a decent shot against a 3 seed. That would get the team into sweat 16 and make the season a success.
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Well then you better route like hell Sunday. But yeah getting to the 3 seed line opens things way up.
 
RuffRuff said:
Yeah the Seton Hall loss all but killed that notion. That loss was brutal on so many levels. We’re not getting any credit for injuries. There have been a ton of injuries across the sport.

As for Sampson vs Scheyer, irony is that Scheyer beat him in the tourney last year. The one thing about these defense heavy teams is they tire out.
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I mean that loss is like a Q3.9 loss. It is BAD. That game alone probably drops us at least a seed line (maybe even 2).
 
I know earlier this season a lot of people were talking about Creighton like they may very well miss the tourney, while we were solidly a top 4 seed. Looking at the metrics now, ours and Creighton's are eerily similar. Identical 18-8 records, almost identical BE records, #36 and #37 in NET, identical # of Q1/2/3/4 wins too.
You could argue they actually have a slightly better tourney profile as they aren't saddled with a Q3 loss like we are.
 
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ctbro1999 said:
I know earlier this season a lot of people were talking about Creighton like they may very well miss the tourney, while we were solidly a top 4 seed. Looking at the metrics now, ours and Creighton's are eerily similar. Identical 18-8 records, almost identical BE records, #36 and #37 in NET, identical # of Q1/2/3/4 wins too.
You could argue they actually have a slightly better tourney profile as they aren't saddled with a Q3 loss like we are.
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Most brackets have us both in that 8 range.

Creighton is one of those teams that just don’t produce enough dynamic action to be compelling. They are fundamentally great and have Kalk, but low on kill shots. They're paced and don’t really generate anything off defense as their whole mantra is to avoid mistakes/fouls. It’s nice in theory, but then avoids any killer instinct as it relies more on fundamentalling you to death. Kind of mentality that is great for regular seasons but not for tourneys.
 
RuffRuff said:
Yeah the Seton Hall loss all but killed that notion. That loss was brutal on so many levels. We’re not getting any credit for injuries. There have been a ton of injuries across the sport.

As for Sampson vs Scheyer, irony is that Scheyer beat him in the tourney last year. The one thing about these defense heavy teams is they tire out.
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Don't forget Houston lost their starting PG and best player Jamal Shead in the first half of that game against Duke.
 
So many ways this could go I think UConn probably a 7 seed right now. If they can win out and do some damage in Big Eest Tourney, probably looking at a 4. They run the table now and through Big East tourney, probably a 3.

Lose out? NIT.

Most likely, I think they are a 6 unless they beat St. John's at MSG and then beat Marquette and take care of the other 3 games.

Who knows. They could be in Final Four this year as a 4 seed, or out in the first round as an 8 seed. Or, they culd be in Final Four as an 8 seed and out of first round as a 4 seed.

I have no confidence, either way, about what this team is.
 
gsmooth said:
Don't forget Houston lost their starting PG and best player Jamal Shead in the first half of that game against Duke.
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Sure, but that was not a great Duke team as they then lost to a whatever NCSt team. For all the toughness Sampson drills, you'd think they could still beat that soft @ss Duke team.
 
ctbro1999 said:
Eh, I don't know how much stock (if any) the committee will put in McNeeley being out. I mean we had him all 3 games of the Maui massacre, along with the Seton Hell game.
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A agree it won't matter. McNeeley has a lot more experience now though. Check it. Liam had 0 points against Dayton. Bizarre.

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gsmooth said:
Don't forget Houston lost their starting PG and best player Jamal Shead in the first half of that game against Duke.
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EXACTLY they played that game with 6 healthy/near healthy players
 
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RuffRuff said:
Sure, but that was not a great Duke team as they then lost to a whatever NCSt team. For all the toughness Sampson drills, you'd think they could still beat that soft @ss Duke team.
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every team throws in a klunker now and then. NC State was on one of those weird rolls like Loyola or St Peters
I dont think you will find a more consistent team as far as ranking and records are concerned than Houston over the past decade or so.
 
RuffRuff said:
Well then you better route like hell Sunday. But yeah getting to the 3 seed line opens things way up.
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I meat getting to 6 seed so they play a 3 in second round rather than having to play a 1 or 2 in second round
 
Kolumbo said:
A agree it won't matter. McNeeley has a lot more experience now though. Check it. Liam had 0 points against Dayton. Bizarre.

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I think he was playing hurt in that game. He hurt his back or hip at the end of previous game if my memory is correct. He looked like he was in pain.
 


One of the many brackets, but a directional sense of how being on the 7 or 10 line is advantageous. At the 10, I would doing jumping jacks to see a team like StM. And then I’m really happy playing any of those 2 seeds sans Houston, who could still play into a 1.



Trending as a 4 seed in the BE tourney. This gets us a 3 game set of Xavier, StJ and likely the 2-3 winner. Is this a year we are better off dropping out early?
 
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gtcam said:
I would call the Seton Hall game a fairly tough spot not once but twice in the same game and the team completely collapsed. Not sure they played their best in New Jersey or Hawaii.
It doesn't matter who they play if they get to the dance because they, like everyone else, face a one and done scenario,
The one thing that UConn does have going for it is the fact that many on the team have been to one NC run and some have been to two. That experience is golden.
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But when they play does matter: I don't mind being an 8/9 but if we play Duke in the East it will be in Raleigh so color that game Duke blue home. Would of course rather being 6 so we play the 3 (which could be #12 AP ranked) before we move to regionals (East becomes Newark) to play #1.

Let's get it Sunday and run the remaining schedule - get +2 wins in the BET and perhaps we are a 6.
 
We are not national title contenders. We are not as good as Duke, Alabama, Houston, Florida, and 3 or 4 other SEC teams. HOWEVER, our defense is improving. We are getting healthy. We have size, and we can score. I think we are live dogs.
 
RuffRuff said:


One of the many brackets, but a directional sense of how being on the 7 or 10 line is advantageous. At the 10, I would doing jumping jacks to see a team like StM. And then I’m really happy playing any of those 2 seeds sans Houston, who could still play into a 1.



Trending as a 4 seed in the BE tourney. This gets us a 3 game set of Xavier, StJ and likely the 2-3 winner. Is this a year we are better off dropping out early?
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Jerry Palm has UConn playing St. Mary's in the first round also, but the Huskies as a 9 seed and St. Mary's as an 8. Too early to worry about this stuff just yet. Just win, baby.

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All I know is I'm buying bottles of piss and cases of the sacreds.
 
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