8/9th seed situation? UConn/Seton Hall

[-Huskiediehard-]

Seton Hall 19-10 (8-9) UConn 17-11 (7-9) Seton Hall plays Depaul in last game, each team won their home games vs each other. So my question is if they both end up 9-9 in the BE who gets the 8th seed and bye?

 

[Kemba15]

Pretty sure it would be us if ND stays ahead of Gtown and SHU if Gtown jumps ND...they do play each other this week, so that will tell alot

 

[HeGotGame]

http://www.bigeast.org/fls/19400/pdfs/men_basketball/tiebreaker11.pdf

 

[-Huskiediehard-]

Ok, so I'll be rooting for ND although it's going to be tough for them to beat Gtown on the road but Gtown then plays Marquette and ND vs providence. So I think if we win the last two games we will be the eight seed and probably playing seton hall in the 2nd rd which will be a very winnable game.

 

[RickyMoore21]

our win over ND doesn't help us, according to the tiebreak rules...our only hope of getting the 8 would be for USF to jump G-Town

 

[MidTown Husky]

Wouldn't getting an extra W by not getting a bye help our NCAA case at this point?

 

[RickyMoore21]

USF jumping G-Town is not very probable because USF would have to finsihed a game ahead of G-Town (GT beat USF) and South Florida has Louisville and WVU....its looking like we will be playing on Tuesday folks

 

[RickyMoore21]

Wouldn't getting an extra W by not getting a bye help our NCAA case at this point?

a win over DePaul certainly wouldn't hurt but IMO the risk of possibly losing and destroying a NCAA berth outweighs the reward, much rather get the bye.

its kinda silly at this point to even be talkign about this though, really should just be taking things one game at a time

 

[caw]

http://www.bigeast.org/fls/19400/pdfs/men_basketball/tiebreaker11.pdf

WVU/Seton Hall and UConn all at 9-9 puts

UConn at 2-1
Seton Hall at 2-1 and
WVU at 0-2

This also has the same effect as only SH and UConn being at 9-9 in conference.

This according to the link makes a ton questionable. Cuse/Marquette are basically skipped as both UConn and SH are 0-fers against them. Assuming they fall out with different in conference records.

ND is also skipped as UConn is 1-1 but SH is 0-1 which means they didn't have the chance to win a second game.
Georgetown is a decider with Uconn being 0-1 and SH being 1-0
USF is a decider with UConn being 1-0 and SHn 0-1
UL is skipped with both UConn and SH being 0-1
Cincy is skipped with both UConn and SH being 0-1
WVU is skipped with both UConn and SH being 1-0
SJU is skipped with both UConn and SH being 1-0
Rutgers is also skipped as SH is 1-1 and UConn is 0-1, which means UConn didn't have the chance to win in the second game
Pittsburgh is unknown but skipped, SH is 1-0 and UConn would have to win to be 9-9
Villanova, UConn is 1-0 and SH is 0-1
Providence is unknown but skipped, SH is 1-0 and UConn would have to win to be 9-9
DePaul is skipped as SH is 2-0 (to get to 9-9) and UConn is 1-0

So in the end it could depend on where GTown and USF end up. Though if they are tied then it could come down to Villanova.

All things considered, UConn had a much tougher schedule than SH with it's other home-and-homes against Cuse and ND. SH had DePaul and Rutgers.

 

[rbny1]

Wouldn't getting an extra W by not getting a bye help our NCAA case at this point?

I was thinking the same thing. We might be better off playing in the first round of the Big East tournament as the #9 seed and getting an easy (I hope) victory against the #16 seed to improve our record and boost our chances of getting an NCAA bid.

 

[HeGotGame]

I was thinking the same thing. We might be better off playing in the first round of the Big East tournament as the #9 seed and getting an easy (I hope) victory against the #16 seed to improve our record and boost our chances of getting an NCAA bid.

Don't thinking beating Depaul would do anything, could only hurt our chances by losing.

 

[RickyMoore21]

So in the end it could depend on where GTown and USF end up. Though if they are tied then it could come down to Villanova.

so if USF and GTown have the same record, they are skipped? or is GTown taken first cause they are the higher seed

 

[-Huskiediehard-]

Thanks guys!

 

[caw]

so if USF and GTown have the same record, they are skipped? or is GTown taken first cause they are the higher seed

I think they would be skipped if tied, because they would be counted as a group. GTown may get a higher seed, but that wouldn't change their record or the fact they are tied. So if USF can tie or has a better record than GTown, I think UConn gets the tie-breaker. If Georgetown ends up with a better record then SH would be ahead. GTown ends with ND and Marquette. USF ends with UL and WVU. Neither are guaranteed wins, by any means, but USF has a slightly easier schedule.

 

[RickyMoore21]

ok that makes sense, thanks for the explanation

 

[Tenspro2002]

Playing Tuesday in the 9/16 game only hurts us, NCAA-wise. It might help us sharpness- and confidence-wise if we win (as it likely did last year), but as far as the committee is concerned, it's only an opportunity for a bad loss.

 

[caw]

ok that makes sense, thanks for the explanation

I'm just taking it from the PDF and hoping I'm reading it correctly.

 

[caw]

Playing Tuesday in the 9/16 game only hurts us, NCAA-wise. It might help us sharpness- and confidence-wise if we win (as it likely did last year), but as far as the committee is concerned, it's only an opportunity for a bad loss.

If we end up 9-9 in conference, I don't think it matters if UConn plays the 9-16 or not (unless UConn loses).

 

[Tenspro2002]

If we end up 9-9 in conference, I don't think it matters if UConn plays the 9-16 or not (unless UConn loses).

Yes, I agree with you. I'm not saying that playing in that game hurts our chances, but it opens the door for a crippling "bad loss".

 

[Ts5034]

Unlike last year i would be a little worried about playing the top seed as our third game in 3 days. Syracuse would have 4 days off by then and i just have a feeling fatigue would be a little more of a factor this time around against a team that good. So whatever needs to happen for us to lock up the 8 seed, i will be pulling for it.