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WingU-Conn said:
Like I said, the trend is positive. But I agree with whaler that giving away a ton of tickets with the hope of getting to 70% capacity isn't something to cheer. There's a dark cloud, but also a silver lining.
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Regular Robert Frost over here
 
MattMang23 said:
What I don't think anyone has said is that if you give tickets away for free, sure, you sacrifice the up front payment, but those people often buy beer, food, etc. If the tickets aren't going to be sold, give them away, get people in the door, and sell them concessions.
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I'll let it go because many people can't seem to wrap their heads around the psychology of how and why people spend money.

When you charge 10k non-students to attend a game and then give 10k tickets away afterwards - people stop buying up front and instead wait for the free ride.

I'm pretty sure UConn makes nothing on concessions or parking outside of the t-shirt stands.

By the logic in this thread UConn should stop selling tickets altogether and just open the gates for the first 38,500 who show up.
 
Is it better to have some people at the game with free tickets or would we be better off with them at home watching on TV? This isn't the Syracuse game remember.
 
Exit 4 said:
I just want Whaler11 to bring a fathead of Eeyore on a stick and wave it proudly all four quarters tomorrow. Cheer with it when we lose and cheer when we win. Just fly the Eeyore flag for all situations in the game.
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Like Wing pointed out - maybe actually discuss the points instead of making comments about me.

I'd prefer UConn not act like a small time minor league baseball program. Cleary others mileage may vary.
 
whaler11 said:
The key to attendance is selling season tickets. When many people have figured out you can buy tickets at a huge discount every week you are building your own disincentives for people to buy season tickets.

Acting like giving away 10,000 tickets is a stroke of marketing genius is silly. It might be the single least creative idea on the planet.
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Thank you. I have season tickets and resent the Univ dropping tickets from the sky. It insults folks who pay. Why bothef getting season tickets when every game there are ads and emails for $10.00 tix? Why pay a seat license for chair backs or between the 20-40?
 
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whaler11 your 18k, so proudly stated many times, is plain wrong. Just drop it and stop with the, "well free tickets were given away" bla bla bla.

On a different topic anyone know if CT Transit is going to hav the Hartford Rent bus express for UVA game?
 
Alum86 said:
Thank you. I have season tickets and resent the Univ dropping tickets from the sky. It insults folks who pay. Why bothef getting season tickets when every game there are ads and emails for $10.00 tix? Why pay a seat license for chair backs or between the 20-40?
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And as the season ticket sales slide - they ignore this obvious reason.

When you look at how many non-student/program season tickets they sell the numbers are pathetic.

They went from about 22-23k in 2005 and a decade later - they are below 10k. They have managed to chase off more than half their real season ticket base and continuing to alienate them is being cheered on. You almost can't make it up.
 
whaler11 said:
When you charge 10k non-student to attend a game and then give 10k tickets away afterwards - people stop buying up front and instead wait for the free ride.

I'm pretty sure UConn makes nothing on concessions or parking outside of the t-shirt stands.
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Of course.

I don't purport to know why people spend their money how they do. I don't have the business acumen. But I do get the idea that we don't want to fill the stadium with ticket welfare collectors.

So, to be clear, I'm only advocating unloading some of them for free after exhausting all avenues to sell them. I'm ok with selling as many as possible and then on game day releasing a max of like 5K for free or at far reduced price. Not one of the first 5K? Too bad. That's all there are. You'll have to buy one if you still want in. Want to guarantee a ticket? Buy one. This would allow the school to make a little extra on items sold at the game. Now if you're correct and UConn doesn't profit on those items, then this is all a moot point.

I don't care for doing it through PC Richard or, like The Travelers does, to anyone who test drives a Ford, but I think giving away a few thousand to desperately put a few more bodies in the place isn't going to create the culture of hand outs you're worried about.
 
NEforceUConn said:
whaler11 your 18k, so proudly stated many times, is plain wrong. Just drop it and stop with the, "well free tickets were given away" bla bla bla.

On a different topic anyone know if CT Transit is going to hav the Hartford Rent bus express for UVA game?
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Are you brain dead. I predicted 22k in the stadium. In the other thread when someone was being an idiot I made a point by saying 18k - which I said once but has been repeated by idiot posters.

I have always been talking about actual attendance not published attendance. They can publish 40k - it has nothing to do with how many people are actually in the stadium.

But yeah if you give away tickets to anyone with a web browser after people make predictions it's a bit different.
 
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nary a mention of the 3 yr commit to tix by the AD either. Like it never was. They know if that was in effect the season ticket numbers would go to zero. B12 or bust. Literally
 
whaler11 said:
Are you brain dead. I predicted 22k in the stadium. In the other thread when someone was being an idiot I made a point by saying 18k - which I said once but has been repeated by idiot posters.

I have always been talking about actual attendance not published attendance. They can publish 40k - it has nothing to do with how many people are actually in the stadium.
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So you're saying the Red Sox sellout streak a few years back was a sham?
 
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McLovin is the ultimate homer.

Some agree free tix and giveaways to the homeless and flat screen buyers at PC Richard's is good. Some say it pisses off the money base into possibly withholding $$ in the future. McLovin and the homers are wrong.
 
Alum86 said:
McLovin is the ultimate homer.

Some agree free tix and giveaways to the homeless and flat screen buyers at PC Richard's is good. Some say it pisses off the money base into possibly withholding $$ in the future. McLovin and the homers are wrong.
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You can't be referring to me. You must be referring to the guy in my picture, and not the poster behind the account because I'm anything but a homer. I've never been afraid to criticize UConn when I think they're wrong. For instance, when all the homers are ridiculing Whaler, I'm oftentimes one of the few siding with him.
 
Alum86 said:
McLovin is the ultimate homer.

Some agree free tix and giveaways to the homeless and flat screen buyers at PC Richard's is good. Some say it pisses off the money base into possibly withholding $$ in the future. McLovin and the homers are wrong.
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There is literally no one on the board who complains more than you.
 
Alum86 said:
Thank you. I have season tickets and resent the Univ dropping tickets from the sky. It insults folks who pay. Why bothef getting season tickets when every game there are ads and emails for $10.00 tix? Why pay a seat license for chair backs or between the 20-40?
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You pay more to get the seats you want. Besides that, you're right, it doesn't make financial sense to buy season tickets. That's never going to change unless demand gets to the point where people are worried about whether they are going to be able to buy single game tickets for the better games. And that's never going to happen unless they grow the fanbase.
 
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whaler11 said:
I wasn't even going to post in this thread until Art brought me into it.

Half his posts are about d!cking up the board - he is the one that created this thread with his lame passive aggressive shot at me. Sorry this isn't Pop Warner and I'm not going to treat the program as if it is.

Printing tickets and giving them away in bulk has a negative impact in the long term. That some people don't get that or care is fine - but don't give me grief because you can't see two steps down the road.
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I would agree with the last part generally but this is Maine and we aren't losing any real money with the trade-off being a better atmosphere, a few new fans and the fact that our long-term isn't very long. It's kind of the next 3 months. After that we can fold the ticket issue into our long-term business plan whatever it may be. Enjoy the moment. Benedict is pushing in the right direction and not monitoring.
 
For me, season tickets are a point of pride and something I'm more than happy to do to support the university. I can see why some people, especially families opt to get their tickets through cheaper avenues. Ideally, demand would be so that season tickets would be the cheap option. We are farrrr from that pint though.
 
WingU-Conn said:
Does this apply to people complaining about what other people post just because it doesn't make them happy? The 28k number doesn't make him happy, so he "complains". His opinion of the 28k number doesn't make you happy, so you complain. What's the difference?

How does one person refusing to be celebrate a number that is easily shown to be highly suspect ruin the day for so many people?

If you can't enjoy the number without having affirmation from every single poster, then who is really miserable here?

24 more hours till my tailgate kicks off and it can't come soon enough. I can't wait to argue about punt returns, missed blocks, Diaco's clock management, and students leaving in the 3rd quarter.
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It's not his opinion that is being complained about, it's the fact that no matter what is done or said they complain. Everyone else is too dumb to realize the game that is being played by distributed versus actual gate. No one can try to paint anything positively because of the reality police who think only they "get it". And the person I responded to is a relatively new poster so I pointed that out. Big difference actually.
 
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Not that Rutgers should ever be an example of how to do anything but they have done exactly what the AD is now doing to drive attendance figures. We mock them about it look where it got them. I bet somewhere on our Big12 checklist is "at least 75% capacity at football games." If giving them away get us there so be it.
 
Season starts in less than 24 hours, so season ticket sales for 2016 are a moot point now. We had modest football improvement last year and it resulted in very modest improvement (if you can even call it that) in season ticket sales this year.

Sales drive for 2017 season tix starts now, and it starts with a beat down of Maine. Win and show excitement.
 
DiacosArmy said:
For me, season tickets are a point of pride and something I'm more than happy to do to support the university. I can see why some people, especially families opt to get their tickets through cheaper avenues. Ideally, demand would be so that season tickets would be the cheap option. We are farrrr from that pint though.
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Yes - the overall structure is broken and has been broken for a while.

You should do better buying in bulk, instead they reward one-offs.

It doesn't matter much because there isn't really a secondary market - but the school flooding the market and selling places like stub hub below face value is just another way they disadvantage season ticket buyers.

Those are the people you should be rewarding - not taking advantage of the fact that some quantity buys them as a matter of pride. Clearly there aren't enough of us.
 
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Jerry27 said:
It's not his opinion that is being complained about, it's the fact that no matter what is done or said they complain. Everyone else is too dumb to realize the game that is being played by distributed versus actual gate. No one can try to paint anything positively because of the reality police who think only they "get it". And the person I responded to is a relatively new postEra so I pointed that out. Big difference actually.
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Actually you got his argument wrong. He's not saying nobody gets the distribution game.

Maybe let the new posters interpret posts for themselves since you got it wrong.
 
WingU-Conn said:
Actually you got his argument wrong. He's not saying nobody gets the distribution game.

Maybe let the new posters interpret posts for themselves since you got it wrong.
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Really? That wasn't what was said? I think maybe you should follow the whole conversation before posting instead of rushing to defend what you clearly didn't read.

"They printed and distributed probably 10k free tickets. If that gets you all hot and bothered that's exciting. Why don't you wait and see who actually shows up - because the true number never has anything to with distributed."
 
Did it ever occur to certain people that they wanted to have high attendance numbers at a crucial moment in the program's history?

If this school is left behind, it's not going to matter at all that free tickets circa 2016 A.D. ate into the season ticket base.

On the other hand, if they can show a consistent 30k-35k a game for the month of September, and it helps the cause even by 1%, they may very well find themselves in a situation where the season ticket question takes care of itself.
 
I see a lot of false narratives.

1. Giving tickets away to a low demand game to fill empty seats means that you must will give tickets away to every game. False.

2. Giving tickets away to a low demand game to fill empty seats means that will your season tickets holders. False.

3. Giving tickets away to a low demand game to fill empty seats gives you know value in return.

The last one is perhaps the biggest lie. Playing in front of a packed house is extraordinarily valuable. It improves the game day experience for the fans. It improves the home field advantage for the team. It makes for a better game on television. It introduces new potential ticket buyers to college football in the Rent, which is a great product.

Anyone who touts their business acumen by saying that empty seats are better for us right now, might want to rethink that issue. In the near term butts in the seats is critical for us. Don't believe ask our friends the Scarlet Knights. They gave tickets away to anyone to get their game day attendance numbers up while they were courting the Big 10. While that wasn't the decided metric they took the "nobody cares about football in the Northeast" meme out of play. We'd be foolish not to learn from that.

Now one point that has been made that I agree with is that it is bad business to soak the season ticket holders and then cut the price of single games, if that were to become the norm. We should drive down the cost of the season tickets to assure that we've got decent turn out. If their isn't perceived value in it, season ticket purchases will suffer.
 
CL82 said:
I see a lot of false narratives.

1. Giving tickets away to a low demand game to fill empty seats means that you must will give tickets away to every game. False.

2. Giving tickets away to a low demand game to fill empty seats means that will your season tickets holders. False.

3. Giving tickets away to a low demand game to fill empty seats gives you know value in return.

The last one is perhaps the biggest lie. Playing in front of a packed house is extraordinarily valuable. It improves the game day experience for the fans. It improves the home field advantage for the team. It makes for a better game on television. It introduces new potential ticket buyers to college football in the Rent, which is a great product.

Anyone who touts their business acumen by saying that empty seats are better for us right now, might want to rethink that issue. In the near term butts in the seats is critical for us. Don't believe ask our friends the Scarlet Knights. They gave tickets away to anyone to get their game day attendance numbers up while they were courting the Big 10. While that wasn't the decided metric they took the "nobody cares about football in the Northeast" meme out of play. We'd be foolish not to learn from that.

Now one point that has been made that I agree with is that it is bad business to soak the season ticket holders and then cut the price of single games, if that were to become the norm. We should drive down the cost of the season tickets to assure that we've got decent turn out. If their isn't perceived value in it, season ticket purchases will suffer.
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Perfectly well thought out post with very little, if any to debate, but unfortunately there probably will be.

Sigh....
 
UConnTrumbull said:
If you have extra tickets and can't bring someone else along, have the dude scan it anyway. Old hockey trick.
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ha ya know what, I remember last year I was at a game and the guy in front of me (by himself) had the attendant scan four tickets. never understood why till now.
 
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