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We're involved (early & strong) with a bunch of guys in the Nos. 20-through-40 range, many of whom are local-ish. I'm going to use the 247 rankings here instead of the composite:

23: Jermaine Samuels (6-foot-6 SF from Massachusetts; considered a strong UConn lean)
25: Tremont Waters (5-foot-10 PG from Connecticut; considered a strong UConn lean; may reclassify to 2016)
26: Jordan Tucker (6-foot-7 SG/SF from White Plains; considered a Syracuse lean)
27: Samuel Japhet-Mathias (6-foot-10 C from Massachusetts via England; UConn/GTown toss-up; may reclassify to 2016)
28: Isiah Jassey (6-foot-9 PF from Texas; considered a strong Texas lean)
35: Hamidou Diallo (6-foot-4 SG from NYC; considered a slight UConn lean)
36: Andre Rafus (6-foot-7 SF from Baltimore; considered a slight UConn lean)
53: Nate Pierre-Louis (6-foot-3 CG from Jersey; considered a UConn/GTown toss-up)
63: Makai Ashton-Langford (6-foot-0 PG from Long Island; UConn interest, no lean thus far)

Ishmael El-Amin (Khalid's kid; 6-foot-1 PG from Minnesota who we've offered) didn't make their top 70, and it's worth noting there are two high-level New England players (Tomas Murphy; stretch PF from Rhode Island & Kimani Lawrence, SF from Massachusetts) we don't seem to be involved with.

We're also, of course, involved with a number of kids in the national top 20 (Ira Lee & Cody Riley from Southern California are two of them, high school & AAU teammates). The one we're supposedly strongest with is No. 7 Zach Brown, a 7-foot-1 wide-body Center from Florida who was at our midnight madness and raved about it.

Obviously we're months if not years away from putting this class together for real. Obviously things can and will change in the next 2 years - Will Jackson was a top 20 talent at this point in his recruitment cycle.

But just as obviously we're going to need a huge class in 2017 since we'll be losing TSam, Amida, Facey, Purvis, SamIIAm and maybe DHam as an early entry. It's just interesting to me how many of our potential answers could be local guys, and how we seem to be focused more on the sub-Kentucky/Kansas/Duke-level recruits, for the most part.

Maybe 3conn, 99, tcf or Zionn can shed more light on where we stand with some of these guys, which the real priorities are, and their particular style of play.
 
Never heard of Tremont reclassifying. Is this new?
 
When I posted about Tremont on Feb 2nd, I had been watching the Brewster/South Kent game and by chance had been talking with Tremont's father at the game. As I posted then, his dad said academics are big in their family and that they EXPECTED Tremont to complete his high school academics in the spring next year. He didn't say or hint what was next after that. I said that Tremont would be in a position to reclassify like Shabazz. He smiled a broad smile. The Boneyard conversation about reclassification is the natural inference/speculation from this dialogue but can't really be fact anyway until he completes next year's course work. Until then, it is just something to keep in mind relative to our recruiting. He might be academically available for 2016 vs 2017.
 
What about this year's Syracuse recruits? If they do get a two year ban, wouldn't the recruits be able to go elsewhere?
I believe so. And their current players would probably get the same "immediate transfer" treatment that AO did.

I'd love - LOVE - to poach Kaleb Joseph from them. It would fill me with real glee.
 
I believe so. And their current players would probably get the same "immediate transfer" treatment that AO did.

I'd love - LOVE - to poach Kaleb Joseph from them. It would fill me with real glee.

Only those whose eligibility would expire during the ban would be immediately eligible. Oriakhi was, Smith wasn't. Or at least that is the case with UConn.

So if Cuse got an additional year, Cooney and Gbinge would be immediately eligible for transfer and play. If it was two years 16/17 then the sophomores would also be eligible to play immediately upon transfer. Joseph would need the NCAA to say it was a three years in addition to this year, at least based on what they did to UConn.

Imagine if they imposed a two year ban in 16/17 and didn't let Joseph be immediately eligible upon transfer, he would only be able to play in the NCAAT as a senior and his class would be the only one not able to be immediately eligible. Man that would stink for him.
 
Only those whose eligibility would expire during the ban would be immediately eligible. Oriakhi was, Smith wasn't. Or at least that is the case with UConn.

So if Cuse got an additional year, Cooney and Gbinge would be immediately eligible for transfer and play. If it was two years 16/17 then the sophomores would also be eligible to play immediately upon transfer. Joseph would need the NCAA to say it was a three years in addition to this year, at least based on what they did to UConn.
Thanks for the trip down memory lane - somehow I'd forgotten a couple of those details.

Imagine if they imposed a two year ban in 16/17 and didn't let Joseph be immediately eligible upon transfer, he would only be able to play in the NCAAT as a senior and his class would be the only one not able to be immediately eligible. Man that would stink for him.
Knowing both 'Cuse & the NCAA, they'd probably be very happy to screw the kid like that.
 
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We're involved (early & strong) with a bunch of guys in the Nos. 20-through-40 range, many of whom are local-ish. I'm going to use the 247 rankings here instead of the composite:

23: Jermaine Samuels (6-foot-6 SF from Massachusetts; considered a strong UConn lean)
25: Tremont Waters (5-foot-10 PG from Connecticut; considered a strong UConn lean; may reclassify to 2016)
26: Jordan Tucker (6-foot-7 SG/SF from White Plains; considered a Syracuse lean)
27: Samuel Japhet-Mathias (6-foot-10 C from Massachusetts via England; UConn/GTown toss-up; may reclassify to 2016)
28: Isiah Jassey (6-foot-9 PF from Texas; considered a strong Texas lean)
35: Hamidou Diallo (6-foot-4 SG from NYC; considered a slight UConn lean)
36: Andre Rafus (6-foot-7 SF from Baltimore; considered a slight UConn lean)
53: Nate Pierre-Louis (6-foot-3 CG from Jersey; considered a UConn/GTown toss-up)
63: Makai Ashton-Langford (6-foot-0 PG from Long Island; UConn interest, no lean thus far)

Ishmael El-Amin (Khalid's kid; 6-foot-1 PG from Minnesota who we've offered) didn't make their top 70, and it's worth noting there are two high-level New England players (Tomas Murphy; stretch PF from Rhode Island & Kimani Lawrence, SF from Massachusetts) we don't seem to be involved with.

We're also, of course, involved with a number of kids in the national top 20 (Ira Lee & Cody Riley from Southern California are two of them, high school & AAU teammates). The one we're supposedly strongest with is No. 7 Zach Brown, a 7-foot-1 wide-body Center from Florida who was at our midnight madness and raved about it.

Obviously we're months if not years away from putting this class together for real. Obviously things can and will change in the next 2 years - Will Jackson was a top 20 talent at this point in his recruitment cycle.

But just as obviously we're going to need a huge class in 2017 since we'll be losing TSam, Amida, Facey, Purvis, SamIIAm and maybe DHam as an early entry. It's just interesting to me how many of our potential answers could be local guys, and how we seem to be focused more on the sub-Kentucky/Kansas/Duke-level recruits, for the most part.

Maybe 3conn, 99, tcf or Zionn can shed more light on where we stand with some of these guys, which the real priorities are, and their particular style of play.

So dream class for me incluedes Waters, Diallo, Samuels and Brown. I haven't idea how many scholarships will be available that year or who comes in 16.
 
So if Cuse got an additional year, Cooney and Gbinge would be immediately eligible for transfer and play.

Cooney & Gbinije are both Seniors academically this year, so if they graduate this May, they are eligible to transfer & play immediately next year regardless (unless they change the rule). Cooney redshirted his Freshman year & Gbinije sat out a transfer year after playing his Freshman year at Duke.
 
Let's assume we use our two remaining 2015 scholarships on Brown & Wagner. That puts us at 13 for next year, with this depth chart:

2015/16 Roster:
PG: TSam (Jr), Adams (Fr), SamIIAm (Jr)
SG: Ferrari (Jr), Brown (Fr)
SF: DHam (So), Omar (Sr)
PF: Kentan (Jr), Rock (So), Wagner (Fr)
C: Amida (Jr), Phil (Sr), Enoch (Fr)

Sorry, who is Wagner? Can't remember that name.
 
Cooney & Gbinije are both Seniors academically this year, so if they graduate this May, they are eligible to transfer & play immediately next year regardless (unless they change the rule). Cooney redshirted his Freshman year & Gbinije sat out a transfer year after playing his Freshman year at Duke.

Are they on pace to do so? I admit I'm not aware of exCuses players academics.
 
Are they on pace to do so? I admit I'm not aware of exCuses players academics.

Just know they are 4th year players. One came from Duke, so he is probably smart enough. Think I read Cooney & Gbinije were on schedule to graduate too. Hence the "if they graduate"... You never know fully with Cuse.
 
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