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I agree. And, everyone that says UConn should build a 40-50k stadium in Storrs I think dismisses the reality of whether or not that project would be economically prudent. Isn't there a reason why Gampel is only 10,000 seats and often has a couple thousand seats go empty? It's because much of the state can't fathom making the trek up and over to Storrs. Would 30-40,000 people make the trek? I am skeptical. Would it be amazing to have that kind of environment with 10,000 students packing an on-campus stadium? Yes. But it might be 10,000 students and 15,000 non-students and if so that seems similar to the Rent in terms of environment. I think we'd have to be a consistent top-50 team to have a very good shot at putting 35,000+ people in the seats on-campus. And while I think we can re-attain that status, I think it would be difficult to get the Legislature to buy into it. IMO, it would take a large donor campaign to make this happen. I'm not pessimistic - just trying to be realistic. I would love to be wrong about this one day.
Though I do think success breeds more success and getting students to come regularly (which I think they would with a team of current caliber and an on campus field) is a great step in keeping the team relevant, would there be any possibility for a split schedule like with basketball? Get some of the lower tier games on campus to keep students interested in coming to the games and if there are bigger games that could be put in the rent that is also an option? I do not think this is a long term solution and would be more on a temporary basis because the home of a great football team should be where it's students are. In my opinion the additional travel time from Hartford to Storrs would not be that significant especially if it results in a better environment and better on field product. However, I am aware that this may be more of a younger alumni bias, but for any alumni would you not mind taking a trip to where you spent your college years on the occasional fall Saturday as opposed to east Hartford for just a couple extra minutes drive? However, costs and fan decision aside this possibility is even less probable as it would also likely require some form of surrounding town approval in addition to major expansions of Storrs road to allow for travelers, neither of which seem like a likelihood at this point.
 
We haven't had 20k butts in seats consistently in what a decade?

I think you fix up The Rent and see if another round of conference realignment occurs.

There is 0 reason to try and allocate time and money to a 30k (let alone 40k) seat football stadium as an Indy - and I'm probably one of the few that thinks Indy can be a successful and worthwhile venture.
 
Stupid...REALLY? It's a facility that is past it's useful life, requires $63 Million in upgrades which we KNOW will wind up being $163 Million, all to bandage up a bald tire that was built in the wrong location to begin with.
So you're saying that UCLA and Miami can't schedule either because they play on off campus stadiums too? Don't see UCLA having a problem being 17 Miles for the Rose Bowl. Or Miami also being 17 miles from their stadium. That's a whole extra 5 minutes more UConn students are driving from Storrs.

And by your logic, the XL Center should be torn down and built on campus, because it's well past it's prime. Also by you logic the majority of building in the state need to be torn down because they're over 20 years old.
 
Plant an orchard of money trees.

After already having a stadium billed as the biggest brick continuous structure in the US...FSU spent $280 million in 2018 on upgrades...and now has $100 million in pledges for a "fan experience upgrade" and a $20 million in governmental bond money for infrastructure repairs.

$400 million to an existing stadium since 2018, almost all born by boosters....It has to stop....

I suspect that a new on campus stadium's cost in Storrs could not be done unless payed for by the state.
 
I'm going to make a prediction: we will be joining the ACC on July 1, 2036. I think the SEC will raid the ACC leaving us a spot. This means that we can and should be an independent until then. 2023 to 2035 is 13 seasons. This is what Benedict needs to schedule for.

2023 is already complete.
24-25 both need two games.
26 needs one game.
27 needs three games.
28 needs five.
29 needs nine.

We can do this. It is imperative that we get aggressive and schedule in advance and we will be fine.

For the next three years, we need five games.
In 24, we still get to schedule a home FCS game.
The other game that year could be part of a H/H with a P5 school on the road with the return game in 25.
Speaking of 25, we could get another H/H with the home game that year and the road game in 27.
In 26, a H/H with the home game, and the road game in 27.
The final game in 27 could be a home FCS game (7 home games that year).
 
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Let me rephrase it then:

We can use R as the total expenditures for the current, needed upgrades to the Rent and X + R as the all-in cost to build an on-campus stadium. Where would you draw the line for X that the cost would be too high to consider at the moment?


(Example: if R ends up at $82 million and the total cost for an on-campus stadium would be $290 million, X would be $208 million)
I think if you go back and read the report, it isn’t exactly saying you need to spend $63 million all at once. What it says is over the next five plus years you need to spend money replacing stuff that is either worn out, (think the roof) or no longer the meeting today’s standards (communication and technology). It is basically normal maintenance on a twenty year old building. In the private sector, you likely would have a replacement reserve to address it, or some of it at least. Or you would recapitalize the property. In the public sector, that rarely works, because legislators, tax payers and officials would scream bloody murder. They would want that money turned over to the General Fund with the idea that the state will come up with the money when required. Indeed, for a while you weren’t allowed by state law to have such funds for publicly owned entities. Not sure if they are permitted now. So the end result is that the State Legislature needs to appropriate money for that purpose. But it isn’t like you need to do $63 million on Tuesday. You basically put together a capital plan and maybe it is $10 million/year over 6 years, and you fund that and in an ideal world, it becomes a regular thing so you avoid these big numbers in the future.
 
The $63 million is mainly for general maintenance needed...roofing, HVAC, elevator replacement, plumbing, etc.

As posted above, normally there is a maintenance schedule that is carried out throughout a long term ownership...The Rent appears to have not had a regular upgrade schedule so a lot of work needs to be done relarively soon...can not neglect roofing, elevators, HVAC, plumbing, wiring...the tech upgrades might be the few things visble to fans.

And, it appears, that the rental contract with the Rent will be renewed next year, come hell or roof leaks.
 
Also, whatever happened with Benedict hinting there would be three more P5 (ACC) games in the next few years.
 
I'm going to make a prediction: we will be joining the ACC on July 1, 2036. I think the SEC will raid the ACC leaving us a spot. This means that we can and should be an independent until then. 2023 to 2035 is 13 seasons. This is what Benedict needs to schedule for.

2023 is already complete.
24-25 both need two games.
26 needs one game.
27 needs three games.
28 needs five.
29 needs nine.

We can do this. It is imperative that we get aggressive and schedule in advance and we will be fine.

For the next three years, we need five games.
In 24, we still get to schedule a home FCS game.
The other game that year could be part of a H/H with a P5 school on the road with the return game in 25.
Speaking of 25, we could get another H/H with the home game that year and the road game in 27.
In 26, a H/H with the home game, and the road game in 27.
The final game in 27 could be a home FCS game (7 home games that year).
That's a safe prediction....and makes sense...but I think Mora is shooting for a much earlier entry. He has openly spoken about his goal to be in the ACC...I doubt he was talking about getting there when he is 75....lol.
 
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I think if you go back and read the report, it isn’t exactly saying you need to spend $63 million all at once. What it says is over the next five plus years you need to spend money replacing stuff that is either worn out, (think the roof) or no longer the meeting today’s standards (communication and technology). It is basically normal maintenance on a twenty year old building. In the private sector, you likely would have a replacement reserve to address it, or some of it at least. Or you would recapitalize the property. In the public sector, that rarely works, because legislators, tax payers and officials would scream bloody murder. They would want that money turned over to the General Fund with the idea that the state will come up with the money when required. Indeed, for a while you weren’t allowed by state law to have such funds for publicly owned entities. Not sure if they are permitted now. So the end result is that the State Legislature needs to appropriate money for that purpose. But it isn’t like you need to do $63 million on Tuesday. You basically put together a capital plan and maybe it is $10 million/year over 6 years, and you fund that and in an ideal world, it becomes a regular thing so you avoid these big numbers in the future.
Agree. If I were the state legislature, I would make a requirement that the CDRA stop deferring maintenance, essentially converting annual maintenance expense to periodic capital expenditure, as a condition for this agreement.
 
That's all well reasoned, and I fully acknowledge that things change over time. However, I always find it funny when people who weren't in the room when decisions were made are confident telling people who were in the room when decisions were made how the decisions were really made. I know what I saw, and I know what people said. You know what makes sense. In politics, sense and $16 gets you over the GW Bridge.
So, did anyone actually say “if the university of Connecticut doesn’t play in the civic center we will cut their budget?” while you were “in the room.” I’m actually curious about this, because this notion is part of the mythology of the state and certainly didn’t originate with you. If you want, feel free to take it to PM.

(And for what it’s worth, in politics, and pretty much everywhere else, sense and understanding where pressure could be applied and how to apply it will get you a very long way.)
 
Right. In fact visiting teams like Rentschler precisely because it is 20 minutes to the airport. And for visiting fans it is the same thing. Of course there are fewer direct flights than say Boston or New York, but the airport is easy to get to, no traffic issues most of the time. If you want to fly to Boston or NY it is a doable trip too
Do football programs fly commercial to away games? They may fly on a Delta jet, but aren't they chartered?

As far as visiting fans, it's as much a function of where that school is located, as it is where Bradley connects. As it is, Bradley services direct flights to/from a good number of major cities.
 
Do football programs fly commercial to away games? They may fly on a Delta jet, but aren't they chartered?

As far as visiting fans, it's as much a function of where that school is located, as it is where Bradley connects. As it is, Bradley services direct flights to/from a good number of major cities.
UConn flies charter. Virtually every program does - not aware of one that doesn’t.
 
UConn flies charter. Virtually every program does - not aware of one that doesn’t.
So ADs are not really concerned with from which cities airports service direct flights.
 
I'm going to make a prediction: we will be joining the ACC on July 1, 2036. I think the SEC will raid the ACC leaving us a spot. This means that we can and should be an independent until then. 2023 to 2035 is 13 seasons. This is what Benedict needs to schedule for.

2023 is already complete.
24-25 both need two games.
26 needs one game.
27 needs three games.
28 needs five.
29 needs nine.

We can do this. It is imperative that we get aggressive and schedule in advance and we will be fine.

For the next three years, we need five games.
In 24, we still get to schedule a home FCS game.
The other game that year could be part of a H/H with a P5 school on the road with the return game in 25.
Speaking of 25, we could get another H/H with the home game that year and the road game in 27.
In 26, a H/H with the home game, and the road game in 27.
The final game in 27 could be a home FCS game (7 home games that year).
That timeline is unacceptable. We spent 7 seasons in the gulag, 2 as Independent, and 1 sitting on our thumbs. I have no interest in what happens 13 years from now.
 
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With Syracuse as a neutral site game, I assume our other remaining game in 2024 will be a home game against an FCS opponent.
 
That timeline is unacceptable. We spent 7 seasons in the gulag, 2 as Independent, and 1 sitting on our thumbs. I have no interest in what happens 13 years from now.
The team(s) that want out of the ACC don't like that timeline either. They can't go today but that GOR will have to be broken well before 2036 or however long they foolishly agreed to.
 
Based on current ACC contracts and grant of rights, management will be required to find properties/teams which will open opportunity to renegotiate TV deals.

Not many opportunities around, but sitting around and waiting for expiration of Grant of Rights and SEC/B10 invasion is not an option.
 
There will be a lot of teams looking for games in 2024 and 2025 when the SEC goes to a 9 game schedule. I calculate that there will be 12 teams dumped from the 2024 SEC schedules and 9 teams dumped from the 2025 SEC schedules as many SEC teams have scheduled 4 OOC games and they will only be able to play 3.
 

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