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2024 Scheduling opportunities??????

noeynox said:
Would Penn State come here?
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Penn State isn’t going to the Meadowlands to play UConn. They might to play Alabama or Texas or somebody. If they play us now it will be a one off.
 
freescooter said:
Penn State isn’t going to the Meadowlands to play UConn. They might to play Alabama or Texas or somebody. If they play us now it will be a one off.
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I wasn't saying it would happen - just that I'd be happy with it. Like I've said before, we should play anyone anywhere - until we rebuild our place in the overall pecking order.
 
uconntailgater said:
I would love to get Notre Dame on the 2024 schedule. Even if it's just a one off at their stadium. They have an opening for their senior day game in November. It would be a nice payday as well.
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ND's 2024 schedule has 11 games scheduled with Miami listed as a TBA.

In November, they have a bye (Nov 2) before the FSU game on Nov. 9 and a bye (Nov. 23) before the 11/30 USC game.

They have a two week bye between Miami of Ohio on 9/21 and Stanford on 10/12....open are 9/28 and 10/5

They have a TBA against Miami of Florida that must be fitted in on one of the bye weeks.
 
Iceman03 said:
The Mistake at the Landing Field is DEAD. No school, unless absolutely HURTING for a game would play in that disaster.
Build the On Campus Stadium YESTERDAY, because the state is not investing "Not One Dime" in that Disaster at the Landing Strip !!!!!
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Ole Miss and UNC don’t mind.
 
Iceman03 said:
The Mistake at the Landing Field is DEAD. No school, unless absolutely HURTING for a game would play in that disaster.
Build the On Campus Stadium YESTERDAY, because the state is not investing "Not One Dime" in that Disaster at the Landing Strip !!!!!
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Thank you for your interest in UConn football.

Reasonable people can argue about whether UConn should play at the Rent or on campus, and reasonable people argue that here all the time. Having said that, the thought that what is keeping schools like Penn State from giving us a home game is that we're in East Hartford, easily accessible to their fans, and not Storrs, has to be the most stupid argument ever put forth for moving to Storrs.
 
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Why more distant fans will visit an OOC opponent's stadium. Much like a minor bowl game.

1...Icons...had to visit Notre Dame, LSU and Ohio State...folks will visit a check off list type venue/team that is on the schedule.

2...Location...a pretty location in fall that offers vacation opportunities...foliage, sight seeing, entertainment

3...Family in the area...

I have never heard fans making a choice not to attend based on their perception of stadium facilities...transportaion does make a difference.

More will attend drivable games, If you have to fly and then rent a car and drive 100 miles, that deters some...like UConn fans would when visiting Auburn.
 
billybud said:
Why more distant fans will visit an OOC opponent's stadium. Much like a minor bowl game.

1...Icons...had to visit Notre Dame, LSU and Ohio State...folks will visit a check off list type venue/team that is on the schedule.

2...Location...a pretty location in fall that offers vacation opportunities...foliage, sight seeing, entertainment

3...Family in the area...

I have never heard fans making a choice not to attend based on their perception of stadium facilities...transportaion does make a difference.

More will attend drivable games, If you have to fly and then rent a car and drive 100 miles, that deters some...like UConn fans would when visiting Auburn.
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Right. In fact visiting teams like Rentschler precisely because it is 20 minutes to the airport. And for visiting fans it is the same thing. Of course there are fewer direct flights than say Boston or New York, but the airport is easy to get to, no traffic issues most of the time. If you want to fly to Boston or NY it is a doable trip too
 
Iceman03 said:
The Mistake at the Landing Field is DEAD. No school, unless absolutely HURTING for a game would play in that disaster.
Build the On Campus Stadium YESTERDAY, because the state is not investing "Not One Dime" in that Disaster at the Landing Strip !!!!!
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no offense but this is a really stupid post. I think it cost 60 million to build a 2,500 seat Hockey Arena. What would it cost to build a new 45 thousand seat football stadium on campus? 200 Million 300 million? for 6 games?
 
Stupid...REALLY? It's a facility that is past it's useful life, requires $63 Million in upgrades which we KNOW will wind up being $163 Million, all to bandage up a bald tire that was built in the wrong location to begin with.
 
Iceman03 said:
Stupid...REALLY? It's a facility that is past it's useful life, requires $63 Million in upgrades which we KNOW will wind up being $163 Million, all to bandage up a bald tire that was built in the wrong location to begin with.
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LOL. You said we needed to do it to get opponents like PSU. So you've abandoned that argument, and think no one will notice?
 
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CTFAN4LIFE said:
We should schedule football and basketball (both men's and women's) - getting some home, away, and neutral sites across a well rounded scheduling agreement. Why not get the money and exposure and competition? Notre Dame provided some of our best athletic victories in the past 20 years. Let's get more.
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Absolutely think that Benedict should leverage the popularity of our men’s women’s basketball program to get football dates.
 
freescooter said:
Right. In fact visiting teams like Rentschler precisely because it is 20 minutes to the airport. And for visiting fans it is the same thing. Of course there are fewer direct flights than say Boston or New York, but the airport is easy to get to, no traffic issues most of the time. If you want to fly to Boston or NY it is a doable trip too
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LOL, which programs do you actually think decide their away schedules by whether something is “20 minutes closer to the airport“.
 
Slick said:
no offense but this is a really stupid post. I think it cost 60 million to build a 2,500 seat Hockey Arena. What would it cost to build a new 45 thousand seat football stadium on campus? 200 Million 300 million? for 6 games?
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I think it’s pretty likely it would cost more than $60 million, but keep in mind that there is no need to build much of the accessory space that normally come along with building a new stadium. We already have built Shankman, and Burton.

The question about whether or not to build in stores isn’t a decision between $200 million in nothing it’s a decision between $200 million and whatever it will cost to renovate Rentschler Field to keep it functional. It’s not happening within the next decade in any event, in my opinion. Oh and if we’re expanding capacity from Rentschler fields 40,000 to 45,000, that’s probably a good thing because it would seem to mean that there’s greater demand.
 
CL82 said:
I think it’s pretty likely it would cost more than $60 million, but keep in mind that there is no need to build much of the accessory space that normally come along with building a new stadium. We already have built Shankman, and Burton.

The question about whether or not to build in stores isn’t a decision between $200 million in nothing it’s a decision between $200 million and whatever it will cost to renovate Rentschler Field to keep it functional. It’s not happening within the next decade in any event, in my opinion. Oh and if we’re expanding capacity from Rentschler fields 40,000 to 45,000, that’s probably a good thing because it would seem to mean that there’s greater demand.
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Quick question for you 82:

Knowing that renovations at the Rent will be at a minimum $63 million and will be part of the equation, what price for building an on-campus stadium would you consider too high to consider at the moment?
 
FfldCntyFan said:
Quick question for you 82:

Knowing that renovations at the Rent will be at a minimum $63 million and will be part of the equation, what price for building an on-campus stadium would you consider too high to consider at the moment?
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I don’t know that we know that the renovations for the rent are “a minimum of $63 million“. We do know that that’s the amount requested by the CDRA, but their history regarding what they consider “necessary improvements“ isn’t particularly better than their history of actually managing a venue.
 
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CL82 said:
I don’t know that we know that the renovations for the rent are “a minimum of $63 million“. We do know that that’s the amount requested by the CDRA, but their history regarding what they consider “necessary improvements“ isn’t particularly better than their history of actually managing a venue.
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Let me rephrase it then:

We can use R as the total expenditures for the current, needed upgrades to the Rent and X + R as the all-in cost to build an on-campus stadium. Where would you draw the line for X that the cost would be too high to consider at the moment?


(Example: if R ends up at $82 million and the total cost for an on-campus stadium would be $290 million, X would be $208 million)
 
FfldCntyFan said:
Let me rephrase it then:

We can use R as the total expenditures for the current, needed upgrades to the Rent and X + R as the all-in cost to build an on-campus stadium. Where would you draw the line for X that the cost would be too high to consider at the moment?


(Example: if R ends up at $82 million and the total cost for an on-campus stadium would be $290 million, X would be $208 million)
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So, what I think you’re asking is, in my opinion, how much additional cost would it be worth to build a brand new stadium on campus in Storrs, at some point in the future, rather than have a say 30 year old, 40 year old, etc. patchwork stadium in East Hartford. It is pretty tough to give a specific answer to that vague a hypothetical. Some of it will depend on the condition of Rentschler field at the time the decision is made, the demand of the program and the method of financing. Obviously, it’s not a question of, to use the figures you posed in your hypothetical, the University putting 200 million in cash down. It would probably be bonding over a minimum of 30 years. A cost of $6 2/3 million a year doesn’t seem prohibitive, especially when it is offset by the fact that the university would no longer be paying the CDRA rent for the use of Rentschler field, plus guaranteeing losses. Keep in mind, as well, that the university would also be earning concession in parking revenue, which it does not now.

Boy, as you start to break down the numbers, it does seem like it’s pretty feasible, doesn’t it?
 
FfldCntyFan said:
Let me rephrase it then:

We can use R as the total expenditures for the current, needed upgrades to the Rent and X + R as the all-in cost to build an on-campus stadium. Where would you draw the line for X that the cost would be too high to consider at the moment?


(Example: if R ends up at $82 million and the total cost for an on-campus stadium would be $290 million, X would be $208 million)
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Is what you're asking how much delta one would be o.k. with in order to move from a renovated Rent to a new stadium in Storrs?

There's not a right answer to that question, it depends on factors including personal preference, personal convenience and what the legislature will think brings the most bang for the buck to the entire state. But my personal belief is that, in the near future, the delta that the legislature would support is close to zero. If the University wants to raise private funds and build the stadium without asking the State for more money than it would cost to renovate the Rent, that's a different question.
 
businesslawyer said:
Is what you're asking how much delta one would be o.k. with in order to move from a renovated Rent to a new stadium in Storrs?

There's not a right answer to that question, it depends on factors including personal preference, personal convenience and what the legislature will think brings the most bang for the buck to the entire state. But my personal belief is that, in the near future, the delta that the legislature would support is close to zero. If the University wants to raise private funds and build the stadium without asking the State for more money than it would cost to renovate the Rent, that's a different question.
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Agree, BL, in the near term. The Rent is in too good shape to abandon and the cost to keep it operational are relatively small. That won’t always be the case.
 
CL82 said:
Agree, BL, in the near term. The Rent is in too good shape to abandon and the cost to keep it operational are relatively small. That won’t always be the case.
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Yes, but it's more than that. I remember the two sessions I worked in the General Assembly, it was important to members that basketball games be in Hartford to be more easily accessable to both them and their constituents, and to UConn this was an easy concession to make in return for broader support for funding. I doubt much has changed in this regard over 40 years. Add to that donor convenience and I just don't see this changing any time in the foreseeable future.
 
businesslawyer said:
Yes, but it's more than that. I remember the two sessions I worked in the General Assembly, it was important to members that basketball games be in Hartford to be more easily accessable to both them and their constituents, and to UConn this was an easy concession to make in return for broader support for funding. I doubt much has changed in this regard over 40 years. Add to that donor convenience and I just don't see this changing any time in the foreseeable future.
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I remember you talking about this in the past. Was it before or after Gampel was built?
 
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businesslawyer said:
Yes, but it's more than that. I remember the two sessions I worked in the General Assembly, it was important to members that basketball games be in Hartford to be more easily accessable to both them and their constituents, and to UConn this was an easy concession to make in return for broader support for funding. I doubt much has changed in this regard over 40 years. Add to that donor convenience and I just don't see this changing any time in the foreseeable future.
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I agree. And, everyone that says UConn should build a 40-50k stadium in Storrs I think dismisses the reality of whether or not that project would be economically prudent. Isn't there a reason why Gampel is only 10,000 seats and often has a couple thousand seats go empty? It's because much of the state can't fathom making the trek up and over to Storrs. Would 30-40,000 people make the trek? I am skeptical. Would it be amazing to have that kind of environment with 10,000 students packing an on-campus stadium? Yes. But it might be 10,000 students and 15,000 non-students and if so that seems similar to the Rent in terms of environment. I think we'd have to be a consistent top-50 team to have a very good shot at putting 35,000+ people in the seats on-campus. And while I think we can re-attain that status, I think it would be difficult to get the Legislature to buy into it. IMO, it would take a large donor campaign to make this happen. I'm not pessimistic - just trying to be realistic. I would love to be wrong about this one day.
 
Back to my earlier question, which I rephrased as I was attempting to get an actual answer:

I imagine that there would be some dollar amount that 82 would view as too high to build an on-campus stadium. My question: what would that number be?
 
Ok so back on topic....I'd take a payday game at Penn St and call it a day. Give me an excuse to go to Happy Valley for a game, plus have our team get paid? Sign me up.

Plus if you've never been there, it's an amazing place to watch a game and visit for a football weekend. It's also an easy trip that's just over 4 hours IIRC. Straight down 84, then 81, then 80, then you're there. Plus, construction season should be almost over by then!
 
You can travel almost anywhere for one-off games as a visitor.

But the home and home games are what you want to schedule.

Travelling for one and done games can be a successful strategy for entering the national football consciousness.
 
Re costs for a stadium...

Costs can be huge and takes committment from boosters, especially if those costs can not be state tax revenue supported.

And...can be never ending.

Even recognized upper end stadiums will swallow more money every decade or so.
 
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