2022 Recruiting: Donovan Clingan

[husky429]

I mean I’ve been to Calhoun camp where they taught it and played for a top program in the state too where I was told the same thing. When I got rid of my dip my jumpshot was so much better. When I taught others who depended on their dip the same thing they were completely different shooters. This truly isn’t even an argument. Like I’m speaking from a lot of experience here.

Going to Calhoun camp means nothing. Playing for a top program in the state means nothing.

I played college basketball and was recruited for my shooting. I went to Calhoun camp and probably heard the same ish when I was 11 too. Wow, so helpful. I've coached D1 prospects known for their shooting. One of them is at a high-major school and averaged 12 points a game on 43% 3 point shooting last year. Whoop dee doo.

Individual experience is practically meaningless here. Look at the body of evidence and realize that great shooters dip. Almost exclusively.

This will be my last post on the matter. This board was more tolerable with you on ignore.

 

[UCSouth]

You

Compre his freshman year here to his senior year here. You can also look at Lonzo’s jumper from his rookie year where he NEEDED the dip to get it off which is why he always went to the step back to now where he can raise up in one smooth motion. Yes guys are going to shoot it from the hip at times because that’s where they catch the ball or have the ball at before they go up to shoot. But it’s all one motion. Come on you can’t be serious with this. I’ve literally taught guys these forms that improved their jumpers dramatically. You HAVE to be able to get your shot off from the chest up. That doesn’t mean there won’t be times you start from the hip, but you shouldn’t only be able to make shots when you start from there to the point you only start from there.

You're doing it again...do yourself a favor and ignore every single Clingan thread until the middle of his Sophomore year at UConn. At that time, feel free to criticize anything you want. It really is getting old.

 

[Deleted at users request]

You're watching videos of people catching at their chest, bringing the ball down, and shooting it, and still claim they're not dipping. Give me a break. Hardly a definitive list... maybe you'll bother to actually look at the videos before typing this time.

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[BigErnMcCracken]

I still sneak a dip every now and again. Usually after a few drinks. I have to hide it from my wife though.

 

[Deleted at users request]

You

You're doing it again...do yourself a favor and ignore every single Clingan thread until the middle of his Sophomore year at UConn. At that time, feel free to criticize anything you want. It really is getting old.

We’re not even talking about Clingan. Y’all are just being sensitive to him for I don’t know what. We’re talking about shooting mechanics and yall are implying im arguing because of Clingan. That’s weird. It’s almost like y’all are cliquing up and acting this way just cause it’s his thread so defending this debate on jumpshots is defending him. Hop off this kids sack. I’m not even saying anything outrageous and y’all are on edge.

It’s the SAME people cliquing up too. I didn’t know this was mean girls.

 

[Deleted at users request]

You're watching videos of people catching at their chest, bringing the ball down, and shooting it, and still claim they're not dipping. Give me a break. Hardly a definitive list... maybe you'll bother to actually look at the videos before typing this time.

Power Basketball: Dipping is an important part of basketball shooting!

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The Art of Shooting a Basketball | 180 Coaching

how to shoot a basketball correctly step by step

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Stephen Curry Shooting Form: How To Shoot Like Steph Curry

If you've ever wanted to know how to shoot like Steph Curry, you've come to the right place. In this post, we did an in depth analysis of Steph Curry’s shooting form.

splashlabbasketball.com

How to Shoot a Basketball Perfectly (10-Step Guide)

Every player must know how to shoot a basketball at a high level. Follow these 10 simple steps to perfect your shooting technique. Video included.

www.basketballforcoaches.com

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Basketball Myth Busters - Don't dip the ball!

The 3 Shooting Secrets of GREAT Shooters

There's dozens of them out there.

I can run down my hoops resume too but I’d rather not. But I basically work very heavily in the sport.

 

[husky429]

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Dips again here
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This video almost exclusively shots off the dribble 3s. The ball is already starting low when you shoot that way, so you don't need to "re dip" unless the dribble is really high. The reason why many people DO dip (especially guards) is because it allows them to shoot a catch and shoot with the same motion they would use for a dribble 3.

Come back with some real evidence bub. Find a video that says "Steph/Klay/Ray/Durant etc. do not dip the ball"--I've found you a dozen videos and articles that suggest otherwise.

Even I can find videos of great shooters not dipping the ball, and I'm not arguing that side. There's tons of videos of Klay putting the ball up from his chin and sinking 3s.

 

[UCSouth]

I think you're right with his shot mechanics. Definitely needs to get cleaned up balance wise and shot release wise. He's a solid shooter but he's not consistent enough to feel like there's no need to adjust his shooting form. A lot of the bigs who shoot 3 s don't bring it all the way down to their waist nowadays, see Jokic and Embiid. That's just not good shot form for anyone as it makes the shot take longer and gives it more room for error on your windup.

I remember going to Calhoun's camp back when I was in like 6th grade and there was a shooting coach there to show us the proper mechanics. It's really a game changer. Right now his form is great on the release. It's his footwork that needs to get cleaned up and the windup. He should be shooting from the chest up. All that can come with quick and fast reps though.

I thought that this was about Clingan...you must have been nitpicking someone else...my bad.

 

[navery12]

We’re not even talking about Clingan. Y’all are just being sensitive to him for I don’t know what. We’re talking about shooting mechanics and yall are implying im arguing because of Clingan. That’s weird. It’s almost like y’all are cliquing up and acting this way just cause it’s his thread so defending this debate on jumpshots is defending him. Hop off this kids sack. I’m not even saying anything outrageous and y’all are on edge.

It’s the SAME people cliquing up too. I didn’t know this was mean girls.

You're in a Donovan Clingan thread talking about Donovan Clingan shooting 3's and (incorrectly) critiquing the areas where Donovan Clingan needs to improve his shot. But yeah other than that nothing about Clingan

 

[Deleted at users request]

Y’all got it man. If y’all can’t see what the clear improvements in jumpshots like Kemba and Lonzo’s were who had big issues then idk. By the way Andre Jackson has that same issue now. If he took that unnecessary dip out of his shot and learned to go straight up in one motion he’d be an improved shooter too. But this isn’t about debating how to shoot a jumper.

 

[Deleted at users request]

Catches high, dips


Dips again here
How to Shoot Like Stephen Curry | NBA Breakdown

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How to Shoot Like Stephen Curry | NBA Breakdown

Dip
How to Shoot Like Stephen Curry | NBA Breakdown

Dip
How to Shoot Like Stephen Curry | NBA Breakdown


This video almost exclusively shots off the dribble 3s. The ball is already starting low when you shoot that way, so you don't need to "re dip" unless the dribble is really high. The reason why many people DO dip (especially guards) is because it allows them to shoot a catch and shoot with the same motion they would use for a dribble 3.

Come back with some real evidence bub. Find a video that says "Steph/Klay/Ray/Durant etc. do not dip the ball"--I've found you a dozen videos and articles that suggest otherwise.

Even I can find videos of great shooters not dipping the ball, and I'm not arguing that side. There's tons of videos of Klay putting the ball up from his chin and sinking 3s.

That’s exactly what I was saying. There’s no need to dip if you aren’t already shooting from that area. You even admit to finding those videos so why do I need to do it. Like this isn’t a debate on how to shoot a jumper. This is just y’all on this mans sack like he can’t get critiqued like everyone else.

 

[husky429]

That’s exactly what I was saying. There’s no need to dip if you aren’t already shooting from that area. You even admit to finding those videos so why do I need to do it. Like this isn’t a debate on how to shoot a jumper. This is just y’all on this mans sack like he can’t get critiqued like everyone else.

You find that evidence of any great shooter not dipping the ball off the catch yet? Still waiting.

 

[BGesus4]

The shot dipping is literally an issue I had in my own game that I had to work on to break as a bad habit. It just allows for a quicker and smoother release. Getting rid of unnecessary dips can make all the difference in the world in having a much smoother and more efficient jump shot. Ask Kemba!

This is big of you to admit. Kudos

 

[Deleted at users request]

This is big of you to admit. Kudos

Thanks man that’s why I’m so adamant about it. Literally something I worked on that helped my jumper so much. It’s a game changer to be able to cut it out and get it up in one motion regardless of circumstance. Something every shooter talked about in this thread can do. If you cant do it then you need to work on doing so. I don’t think that’s something Donovan can do from 3 but he can do it from midrange from the practice clips.

 

[husky429]

Thanks man that’s why I’m so adamant about it. Literally something I worked on that helped my jumper so much. It’s a game changer to be able to cut it out and get it up in one motion regardless of circumstance. Something every shooter talked about in this thread can do. If you cant do it then you need to work on doing so. I don’t think that’s something Donovan can do from 3 but he can do it from midrange from the practice clips.

 

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Want to point out the dip in Hunter’s shot for me? Appreciate it buddy.



Don’t get too much dip in ya chip son!

 

[BigErnMcCracken]

Want to point out the dip in Hunter’s shot for me? Appreciate it buddy.



Don’t get too much dip in ya chip son!

This back and forth is tedious, but you were presented with a mountain of evidence, written and video, that directly refutes the argument you're making, and this is your mic drop? A video of mostly post moves and blocked shots from a guy who took less than 5 outside shots all of last season?

 

[navery12]

Want to point out the dip in Hunter’s shot for me? Appreciate it buddy.

Don’t get too much dip in ya chip son!

Since you posted a 6 minute video of mostly dunks and blocks, here's a 9 second clip of him shooting 3's. He brings the ball to his hip every time

 

[husky429]

Want to point out the dip in Hunter’s shot for me? Appreciate it buddy.



Don’t get too much dip in ya chip son!

Dickinson took FOUR three point shots at Michigan all of last year. You cannot be serious. I believe I asked for evidence of a "great shooter" not dipping the ball. Still waiting.

The Dickinson video still has a slight dip though. It's small, but it isn't the chest and up shot you seem to think exists in the real world.

 

[husky429]

This back and forth is tedious, but you were presented with a mountain of evidence, written and video, that directly refutes the argument you're making, and this is your mic drop? A video of mostly post moves and blocked shots from a guy who took less than 5 outside shots all of last season?

Sorry BigErn. I'm avoiding grad school work and being mean to people on the internet is a good way to procrastinate.

 

[Deleted at users request]

Since you posted a 6 minute video of mostly dunks and blocks, here's a 9 second clip of him shooting 3's. He brings the ball to his hip every time

Navery he literally didn’t dip past his catch point in any of those shots. He was actually very solid with going straight up from his catch point.

 

[Deleted at users request]

Dickinson took FOUR three point shots at Michigan all of last year. You cannot be serious. I believe I asked for evidence of a "great shooter" not dipping the ball. Still waiting.

The Dickinson video still has a slight dip though. It's small, but it isn't the chest and up shot you seem to think exists in the real world.

Alright now I feel like you’re just picking on me.

 

[Deleted at users request]

For an example of how an actual unnecessary dip looks like, check out Andre at the 2:15 mark. Where he brings it to his knees basically. Kemba had the same issue his freshman year.

 

[BigErnMcCracken]

Sorry BigErn. I'm avoiding grad school work and being mean to people on the internet is a good way to procrastinate.

Trust me, I get it. I just meant that the better argument has been sort of established at this point and it's starting to look like a "debate" with the guy whose posts i can't read anymore.

 

[navery12]

Navery he literally didn’t dip past his catch point in any of those shots. He was actually very solid with going straight up from his catch point.

It was admittedly a small one but there was a dip, which I think is the biggest reason you continue to argue with husky429. You're using the most extreme examples and refusing to admit anything less is a dip and not an issue when shooting

 

[BigErnMcCracken]

For an example of how an actual unnecessary dip looks like, check out Andre at the 2:15 mark. Where he brings it to his knees basically. Kemba had the same issue his freshman year.

This has to be a bit at this point.

I love Andre Jackson but he is quite possibly the worst shooter in the history of the program. What is the point you could possibly think you're making?

 

[Deleted at users request]

This has to be a bit at this point.

I love Andre Jackson but he is quite possibly the worst shooter in the history of the program. What is the point you could possibly think you're making?

Of how not to shoot the ball and how unnecessary and extreme his dip is in comparison to the very slight ones from the examples posted here today. Just to show the difference. I’m starting to think y’all are misreading my posts on purpose.

 

[jimva]

I don’t think we have the same definition of dipping. The main point is your jumpshot has to be one motion. Which is the case with all of those guys. They bring the ball straight up from their start point.

I mean if you want a good example of what getting rid of the real dip does just look at Kemba’s jumpshot from his freshman to senior year and tell me what changed the most about it.

Of how not to shoot the ball and how unnecessary and extreme his dip is in comparison to the very slight ones from the examples posted here today. Just to show the difference. I’m starting to think y’all are misreading my posts on purpose.

A bunch of years back I was very frustrated with me team as they were not doing what I was asking of them. A friend and mentor of mine who had been in several of the meetings sat me down and said- “If you keep saying the same thing over and over and people aren’t getting it, it’s not them it’s you”. Just a thought @HuskyWarrior611

 

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A bunch of years back I was very frustrated with me team as they were not doing what I was asking of them. A friend and mentor of mine who had been in several of the meetings sat me down and said- “If you keep saying the same thing over and over and people aren’t getting it, it’s not them it’s you”. Just a thought @HuskyWarrior611

I mean this isn’t a problem in other threads.

 

[Hans Sprungfeld]

I still sneak a dip every now and again. Usually after a few drinks. I have to hide it from my wife though.

There's are a lot of links to articles about dipping twice at the Passover Seder.
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