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businesslawyer said:
The amazing thing to me is how few of the transfers we brought in our starting. We will be better or not this year mostly based on how well players recruited by Edsall do. That doesn’t make me optimistic, but we will see what we will see.
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Most of our top OL transfer targets went elsewhere (Guidone did commit early), I think Mora just settled for what was remaining. This is why transfers are a bit of fools gold, the recruitment of them is just as intense as the recruitment of high school kids.
 
ShakyTheMohel said:
The positive side is that Mora isn't about playing "his guys". One of edsall's downfalls.

But I did expect to see more transfers starting.
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Yes, this cannot be stressed enough. Kudos to Mora for just picking the best performers.

Burns is the shocker. Did not see that coming. I think this is a signal we will be passing the ball a lot. Burns is probably the best pass blocker and receiver of the RB's.

Maybe we are passing the ball a lot early in the season to find out who the best QB is before the Cuse game.
 
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metsfan2323 said:
Yes, this cannot be stressed enough. Kudos to Mora for just picking the best performers.

Burns is the shocker. Did not see that coming. I think this is a signal we will be passing the ball a lot. Burns is probably the best pass blocker and receiver of the RB's.

Maybe we are passing the ball a lot early in the season to find out who the best QB is before the Cuse game.
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I don't Syracuse is on Mora's radar at this point.
 
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businesslawyer said:
The amazing thing to me is how few of the transfers we brought in our starting. We will be better or not this year mostly based on how well players recruited by Edsall do. That doesn’t make me optimistic, but we will see what we will see.
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First, I would look at the 2 deep instead of just the starters. There are 10 transfers on the 2 deep (6 starters) plus the punter and LS. Most important is that the starting QB is probably a transfer and UConn has a real OC and a separate OL coach. Next, what stands out most to me compared to last year is the lack of true freshmen and the limited number of R-Fr on the 2 deep. Against Fresno St. last year, there were 6 true Fr and 6 R-Fr on the 2 deep plus the K and P were both true Fr. This year, there are 3 R-Fr and 1 true Fr (QB Turner) on the 2 deep and neither specialist.
 
UConnJim said:
First, I would look at the 2 deep instead of just the starters. There are 10 transfers on the 2 deep (6 starters) plus the punter and LS. Most important is that the starting QB is probably a transfer and UConn has a real OC and a separate OL coach. Next, what stands out most to me compared to last year is the lack of true freshmen and the limited number of R-Fr on the 2 deep. Against Fresno St. last year, there were 6 true Fr and 6 R-Fr on the 2 deep plus the K and P were both true Fr. This year, there are 3 R-Fr and 1 true Fr (QB Turner) on the 2 deep and neither specialist.
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I think most of those on the two deep are going to see action.
 
businesslawyer said:
There’s a positive side of relying on players who went 1-11 and lost to Holy Cross? O.k.
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Yeah actually....it is a positive.

We heard directly from players last year that Edsall didn't play the best players....he played "his guys". This resulted in a fractured locker room and a dysfunctional team.

So...yes...forgive me for thinking it's a positive that the best players will play versus "Mora's guys". Even if it's some of the same guys who went 1-11...they should be better because they are a functional team and they respect their coaches.
 
Chin Diesel said:
Interesting with the OLine and Fortin. From pressers it seemed like Mora has been high on Lundt but we also knew Lundt was recovering from injury. Fortin is listed as the back up for both Guard spots and the Center. If Lundt needs more time I'lm curious if Fortin goes to RT or do they actually put in the listed back up, Antolovich?
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Mora just announced on the Coach’s Show that unfortunately both freshman offensive linemen Ben Murawski and Brady Wayburn’s preseason injuries will keep them out for the year.
 
ShakyTheMohel said:
Yeah actually....it is a positive.

We heard directly from players last year that Edsall didn't play the best players....he played "his guys". This resulted in a fractured locker room and a dysfunctional team.

So...yes...forgive me for thinking it's a positive that the best players will play versus "Mora's guys". Even if it's some of the same guys who went 1-11...they should be better because they are a functional team and they respect their coaches.
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Name me a 1-11 team where the players not playing don't think they can do as well as the players playing. Because who wants players who acknowledge to themselves that they aren't better than those playing on a 1-11 team?

I get it. Because Edsall 2 failed miserably (which it did), everything he did was wrong and Mora is the new Sun God and everything he's doing is right. With any luck, Shaky, at the end of the season you will be able to tell me I didn't get how much of 4 wins in the last 3 seasons was on the coaches and not the players. But until I see it, I still don't think that's where the smart money is. And given the Vegas line for wins for us is 2.5, I may be wrong -- I hope I'm wrong -- but the smart money isn't expecting us to be more than marginally better.
 
One friendly reminder gents... It's week 0... Gonna be interesting watching the cream rise to the top in terms of our depth... Some guys are still working their way back (i.e. Shor from Alabama) from minor setbacks at the start of camp...
 
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UConnJim said:
First, I would look at the 2 deep instead of just the starters. There are 10 transfers on the 2 deep (6 starters) plus the punter and LS. Most important is that the starting QB is probably a transfer and UConn has a real OC and a separate OL coach. Next, what stands out most to me compared to last year is the lack of true freshmen and the limited number of R-Fr on the 2 deep. Against Fresno St. last year, there were 6 true Fr and 6 R-Fr on the 2 deep plus the K and P were both true Fr. This year, there are 3 R-Fr and 1 true Fr (QB Turner) on the 2 deep and neither specialist.
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To make what should be an obvious point, if the transfers we were able to bring in weren't able to dislodge starters from a 1-11 team, that ought to tell you something about how successful we were in bringing in much better players as transfers. I'm supposed to be impressed that a lot of these guys are "good" enough to beat out benchwarmers on a 1-11 team?
 
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Guru13 said:
Also Charlton too, Edsall didn’t recruit bad, but he just didn’t know how to utilize the players we had and our coaching staff wasn’t amazing either.
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Edsall recruited a lof of low division 1 or division 2 level talent. We had no more talent then Yale which is amazing
 
Duncan Idaho said:
Webb at 245.
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That is another shocker.
businesslawyer said:
Name me a 1-11 team where the players not playing don't think they can do as well as the players playing. Because who wants players who acknowledge to themselves that they aren't better than those playing on a 1-11 team?

I get it. Because Edsall 2 failed miserably (which it did), everything he did was wrong and Mora is the new Sun God and everything he's doing is right. With any luck, Shaky, at the end of the season you will be able to tell me I didn't get how much of 4 wins in the last 3 seasons was on the coaches and not the players. But until I see it, I still don't think that's where the smart money is. And given the Vegas line for wins for us is 2.5, I may be wrong -- I hope I'm wrong -- but the smart money isn't expecting us to be more than marginally better.
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Why are you intentionally ignoring the possibility that college players can improve one year to the next? It only happens all of the time, and yes having a real offensive coordinator is a huge change, probably every bit as important as the head coaching change.

Grouch.
 
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Slick said:
Edsall recruited a lof of low division 1 or division 2 level talent. We had no more talent then Yale which is amazing
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I respectfully disagree with you…. You’re not taking account that we were the 3rd youngest team in the whole of college football. People on this board say Diaco had recruited low division 1 players, Edsall brought in guys with legit D1 offers and particularly weeded out almost all of Diaco guys, only problem is 99% of them should have never seen the field their first 2 years to take time to development. It’s crazy you think majority of those 18 year olds straight out of high school where gonna compete against a bunch of guys that were 21/22. There is only 5 guys from edsall 2018 class and I believe all of them are starters, disrespectful say they’re low D1 players when Edsall set them up for failure their first two years .
 
metsfan2323 said:
That is another shocker.


Why are you intentionally ignoring the possibility that college players can improve one year to the next? It only happens all of the time, and yes having a real offensive coordinator is a huge change.

Grouch.
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Every team has players that improve year to year. Obviously having a real offensive coordinator is a good thing. Doesn't that make not having a real defensive coordinator a bad thing?

I will be in front of my television on Saturday rooting for this team as hard as I've rooted for any other team. And I made clear from the moment we lost to Holy Cross that Edsall couldn't stay. But the road back from where we are to where we were is going to be very difficult. I hope Mora is the guy to get us there and he then stays long enough to get us there. But we don't know any of that yet. All we know is that he had success at much higher levels and he's much better than anything we've had at social media, public relations and getting money from the school.

I fully admit I'm not drinking the Kool-aid on this -- I'm from Missouri. If that makes me a grouch, I'll go back to my trashcan.
 
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businesslawyer said:
Every team has players that improve year to year. Obviously having a real offensive coordinator is a good thing. Doesn't that make not having a real defensive coordinator a bad thing?

I will be in front of my television on Saturday rooting for this team as hard as I've rooted for any other team. And I made clear from the moment we lost to Holy Cross that Edsall couldn't stay. But the root back from where we are to where we were is going to be very difficult. I hope Mora is the guy to get us there and he then stays long enough to get us there. But we don't know any of that yet. All we know is that he had success at much higher levels and he's much better than anything we've had at social media, public relations and getting money from the school.

I fully admit I'm not drinking the Kool-aid on this -- I'm from Missouri. If that makes me a grouch, I'll go back to my trashcan.
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No one is asking anybody to drink any Kool Aid, but maybe, just maybe let this season with the new regime start before pissing on it.
 
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businesslawyer said:
Every team has players that improve year to year. Obviously having a real offensive coordinator is a good thing. Doesn't that make not having a real defensive coordinator a bad thing?

I will be in front of my television on Saturday rooting for this team as hard as I've rooted for any other team. And I made clear from the moment we lost to Holy Cross that Edsall couldn't stay. But the root back from where we are to where we were is going to be very difficult. I hope Mora is the guy to get us there and he then stays long enough to get us there. But we don't know any of that yet. All we know is that he had success at much higher levels and he's much better than anything we've had at social media, public relations and getting money from the school.

I fully admit I'm not drinking the Kool-aid on this -- I'm from Missouri. If that makes me a grouch, I'll go back to my trashcan.
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I’m very optimistic. But it’s also year 1 with a new staff and not so great talent. There are just so many headwinds.

It’s going to be a rough flight. Buckle up. When reality hits the Boneyard it will be amusing as always.
 
businesslawyer said:
With any luck, Shaky, at the end of the season you will be able to tell me I didn't get how much of 4 wins in the last 3 seasons was on the coaches and not the players. But until I see it, I still don't think that's where the smart money is.
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I would say it was both. To be that bad it was both players and coaches...not one or the other.

The hope is...and yes it's still hope until we see results...the coaches are better and even though the roster hasn't completely turned over, the team chemistry is good enough to make the team competitive.

I have generally avoided the prediction threads because predicting what this team will do is impossible. But until Mora gives me a reason to think otherwise (and the spanos news wasn't great)...I will take it as a positive that he appears to start players without regard to whether they are edsall players or Mora players.
 
businesslawyer said:
The amazing thing to me is how few of the transfers we brought in are starting. We will be better or not this year mostly based on how well players recruited by Edsall do. That doesn’t make me optimistic, but we will see what we will see.
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With one glaring exception at the sports most important position. With all due respect to last years quarterbacks, the talent level has VASTLY improved in that category… at least I hope (pray)
 
I think we need to get better at ol and qb…I think we are at qb … not sure about the ol
 
Beachview said:
I think we need to get better at ol and qb…I think we are at qb … not sure about the ol
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Last year we started a redshirt freshman at OT. So there's that.

The thing that Mora has said over and again is that he found good talent at UConn. The main thing the we lacked was quality depth. So while only a few of the transfers have made the starting eleven, they have a huge impact on our depth.
 
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I don’t know about anybody else, but UConn has 5 starters out of 22 who were transfers this year, or 23% which I think is a large number. And, the P and LS are also transfers In this year.

Fortunately, the first game is Saturday, so we will have some new data points to argue about.
 
businesslawyer said:
The amazing thing to me is how few of the transfers we brought in are starting. We will be better or not this year mostly based on how well players recruited by Edsall do. That doesn’t make me optimistic, but we will see what we will see.
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5 seems like a lot. Especially since 3 are right up the middle on offense being center/QB/RB. Lot of transfers really are early in their careers like OL kid from New Canaan and OL kid who went to Alabama.
A linebacker that actually tackles (hopefully) from the SEC is a nice get and the tall WR from ODU will get a lot of playing time.

Those Edsall recruits who returned were part of a team that did a lot better against Wyoming than the 11-3 Utah State team did in 2021.

2022 will show how astoundingly bad HCRE2.0 and his coaching crew were.
 
businesslawyer said:
Not pissing on the new regime. I am pissing on what I view as claiming that irrational exuberance is logical analysis.
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Irrational exuberance. Very nice reference there.

I will add the seeming upgrade at QB alone has me somewhat excited. I have little doubt all 4 QB's were given legitimate chances to show their stuff and I belive the QB situation is as strong of a group as we have seen in several years. That and beefing up the DL and LB corps has me optimistic.
 
The coaches main job is recruiting/talent improvement. Edsall and Mora could both teach us how to run cover 2, or which concepts to beat it. What butters their bread is which players they secure through recruitment, otherwise the best coaches, Saban for example, would recruit 3 stars and avoid the fighting for 4/5 star talent. It’s reality that Moras first season will probably end in underwhelming fashion if he’s still relying upon the FCS level talent from last year. In 2 or 3 years we’ll know if the transfers and recruits he’s brought in are upgrades, but it also isn’t fair to expect this years freshmen to completely steal the show from the current upperclassmen at most positions.
 
businesslawyer said:
Not pissing on the new regime. I am pissing on what I view as claiming that irrational exuberance is logical analysis.
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I would rather have a positive to start the season then being a curmudgeon
 
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