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First looks like FIFA is going to push the 2022 Cup in Qatar to Nov/Dec of 2022 because pushing it to Jan/Feb of 2022, which is the solution that that Euro based leagues prefer, would run into the Winter Olympics. Naturally, the IOC has its own issues since 4 of the 6 contenting cities have back out due to public pressure over cost. The two remaining cities are in countries where the public has no say.

http://www.businessinsider.com/2022-olympics-scheduling-world-cup-2014-10

As for the 2022 Qatar bid itself, FIFA has announced that it's own corruption report will not be released to the public; but they assure everyone that any improprieties surround the bid will be addressed. That's like asking a jewel thief walking out of Tiffany's with a bag of jewels to give the cops a call if they think anything was stolen. The only way the report comes out is if the major corporate sponsors once again rally and demand the report to be released or their millions go away.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/10/02/qatar-world-cup_n_5920718.html

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There is only one country that is capable of hosting a World Cup on short notice. So the longer they wait on making this decision, the better. Even if this is in the winter, nobody is going to want to travel there. No drinking, no fun allowed, etc. Plus the way they treat their workers is a crime against humanity. Going to be fun watching FIFA squirm.
 
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After a thorough review of the Garcia report by FIFA executives, not sure if 'through' holds true if only 4 to 6 people have seen the full thing, Hans-Joachim Eckert for FIFA has declared that while there was some corruption, nothng major and everyone can go home now. Less than than 3 hours later, Garcia (US) comes out swinging stating that material facts were misrepresented in the 'summary' released by Eckert and will appeal. What a freaking mess. FIFA needs to release the full report and put at a minimum the 2022 Cup back out to bid.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/11/14/us-soccer-fifa-idUSKCN0IY29720141114

Maybe FIFA and the NCAA are really the same organization?

Couple highlights - http://www.sbnation.com/soccer/2014/11/13/7214791/our-favourite-parts-of-the-fifa-report
  • FIFA created in 1903, first Code of Ethics created in 2004
  • 6 of the 11 FIFA executives involved in the 2018 and 2022 bid were not interviewed because they 1) did not respond or 2) could not be found
  • Stadium facilities are considered the most important factor in any bid, stadiums were considered 'low risk' (good) in every bid except for Russia (medium = not so good) and Qatar (high = bad).
  • Sheikh Mohammed bin Hamad bin Khalifa Al Thani not only was a FIFA official who voted on the bids; but, also provided direct consulting services to Qatar's bid
  • Russia utilized generic g-mail accounts and rented computers for their bid, all of which were deleted or destroyed immediately after their bid was submitted
  • The FIFA ethics committee investigating these bids has no power make any changes
On the bright side, Germany, the defending Cup champions , are threatening to direct UEFA to leave FIFA.

http://www.theguardian.com/football/2014/nov/15/fifa-uefa-world-cup-germany-football
 

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What a farce. I have no tolerance for the NCAA and this Purvis 1 game ban really just ticked me off. What a crock. However, it really seems like they are just as incompetent as FIFA. I would love to see UEFA pull out of FIFA but reality is, they can talk the talk but I doubt they walk the walk. Money drives everything and while UEFA could probably form it's own new FIFA equivalent and get most other confederations to join them, I doubt they risk it.
 

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wow! Glad to see the sponsors actually back up their words with actions. This is promising news that others may follow suit. According to the article Sony was one of 6 MAJOR sponsors so this isn't like losing a small sponsor. Hopefully more will follow Sony's lead.
 
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wow! Glad to see the sponsors actually back up their words with actions. This is promising news that others may follow suit. According to the article Sony was one of 6 MAJOR sponsors so this isn't like losing a small sponsor. Hopefully more will follow Sony's lead.

Can't find the clip, unit FIFA has already come outstanding that Sony and Emerate Air dropping their sponsorship has nothing to do with the alleged corruption scandal and that other sponsors are lining up. Argh!
 
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Can't find the clip, unit FIFA has already come outstanding that Sony and Emerate Air dropping their sponsorship has nothing to do with the alleged corruption scandal and that other sponsors are lining up. Argh!

Emirates is owned by the UAE royal family. They are in a tiff with the Qataris. This is going to get worse before it gets better.
 
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Emirates is owned by the UAE royal family. They are in a tiff with the Qataris. This is going to get worse before it gets better.
As if Qatar Airways, or some other airline, wouldn't step in to replace Emirates ...
 
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Yeah but Arab pride will probably deter them from expensive messy seconds.

Or the fact that QatarAirways and Air Emirates are both trying to win lucrative Europe to Asia Pac air travellers and European air travellers are particularly sensitive to the issue of human right abuses, neither at this time may want to touch the 2022 Cup.
 
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Or the fact that QatarAirways and Air Emirates are both trying to win lucrative Europe to Asia Pac air travellers and European air travellers are particularly sensitive to the issue of human right abuses, neither at this time may want to touch the 2022 Cup.
As if Qatar gives a crap about human rights abuses and plenty of people, Europeans and APAC alike, are flying Qatar, Emirates, and Etihad. Regardless, some large airlines will go for sloppy seconds for World Cup advertising. No question on the latter!
 
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As if Qatar gives a crap about human rights abuses and plenty of people, Europeans and APAC alike, are flying Qatar, Emirates, and Etihad. Regardless, some large airlines will go for sloppy seconds for World Cup advertising. No question on the latter!

Never underestimate Arab pride. If it wasn't good enough for Emirates then it shouldn't be good enough for Qatar. These people are that irrational.

And if FIFA replaced Emirates with Qatar, then they would lose many more sponsors because that move would be seen as utterly brazen even by FIFA standards.
 
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Garcia has quit. Not surprised as he ran into a brick wall built by his own boss, Hans-Joachim Eckert, who after reading Garcia's report, declared that only 'minor' issues were discovered and that everyone was as clean as a Saint. Nothing to see, move on. And then refused to release the full report in order to 'protect' individual's privacy rights. Yeah, sure. What is interesting is that after complaining about the summary released by Eckert and the inability to release the full report, Eckert and good old Sepp Blatter tried to make Garcia face his own ethics review in front of the disciplinary committee. I wonder if Europe has whistle-blower protection laws as that action screams retaliation.

http://www.theguardian.com/football/2014/dec/17/michael-garcia-resigns-fifa-ethics-committee

As stated before, FIFA listens to no one, even their own people. The only way change will happens is if FIFA's big corporate sponsors threaten to take away FIFA's money will they listen and anything change.
 
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UEFA will have a lot to say about when the dates can and cannot be. As you pointed out, not only do all of those dates cut into the European leagues seasons, but also into Champions League. That is A LOT of money at stake for the leagues and clubs. And they just so happen to be the heavyweights of world socer (they are like the B1G and SEC combined if you were to compare it to CFB). They could pull others along with them if they wanted to break away from FIFA.
 

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Talk about "doubling down" on a bad idea.

I hope that all of the major soccer-playing countries get together and tell FIFA to go f#$k themselves. And then hold their own tourney somewhere else....during the summer...

They won't because in FIFA every country has the same number of votes. Good old Sepp spends a lot of FIFA money in Africa and Asia to help them develop their soccer abilities, i.e. bribes for votes. Best chance for change is if the major sponsors and broadcasters threaten to pull their money from the 2022 Cup. After all, how many sponsors in the US and Europe want their brand to be tied to the largest slave labor camp this century and the deaths of hundreds of laborers. Without money to pay off Africa and Asia, Sepp would loose his kingdom quickly.
 
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They won't because in FIFA every country has the same number of votes. Good old Sepp spends a lot of FIFA money in Africa and Asia to help them develop their soccer abilities, i.e. bribes for votes. Best chance for change is if the major sponsors and broadcasters threaten to pull their money from the 2022 Cup. After all, how many sponsors in the US and Europe want their brand to be tied to the largest slave labor camp this century and the deaths of hundreds of laborers. Without money to pay off Africa and Asia, Sepp would loose his kingdom quickly.

Let's have a World Cup around the Holidays in a country where drinking is illegal.
 

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They won't because in FIFA every country has the same number of votes. Good old Sepp spends a lot of FIFA money in Africa and Asia to help them develop their soccer abilities, i.e. bribes for votes. Best chance for change is if the major sponsors and broadcasters threaten to pull their money from the 2022 Cup. After all, how many sponsors in the US and Europe want their brand to be tied to the largest slave labor camp this century and the deaths of hundreds of laborers. Without money to pay off Africa and Asia, Sepp would loose his kingdom quickly.

You don't even need that much "buy-in", in my humble opinion.

All you need is the soccer federations of Germany, Italy, England, Brazil, and Spain to say, "Nope. We aren't doing it." There is no world cup without those countries. The other countries will follow suit...
 
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