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Exit 4 said:
I feel it will come from a proven FCS / DII or even possibly a DIII head coach..... someone from the northeast with several years of demonstrated ability to run a program. Someone making a big step up. Someone like what Buffalo did with Lance Leipold. I dont we are willing to pay enough to get any other type of coach....unless we get someone looking for a sunset job who already made their $$ elsewhere.

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We already have this now.
 
Exit 4 said:
Mike Bobo - 28-35

Seems like a six year would not have been a bad idea...Colorado State might just find out you can do worse.


YearSchoolGWLTPctSRSSOSAP PreAP HighAP PostBowlNotes
2015Colorado State13760.538-5.09-5.78Arizona Bowl-L
2016Colorado State13760.5382.52-1.17Famous Idaho Potato Bowl-L
2017Colorado State13760.538-0.87-4.95New Mexico Bowl-L
2018Colorado State12390.250-12.74-2.49
2019Colorado State12480.333-6.67-3.42
5 YrsColorado State6328350.444-4.57-3.560-3
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I took a look at their home game vs Boise last week, they spent a fortune on a new stadium to attract the B12's attention, about 10k at best in a 40k stadium. The odd thing is they were all forced into the same sections at midfield, so there was miles of gleaming aluminum benches displayed everywhere else.
 
Exit 4 said:
Okay - rank'em
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In many cases, G5 jobs are more attractive than P5 jobs. Why? You can win at some G5s and then wait for the right P5 job to open before you move on. Look at the Cincy job. Coaches have moved on to Michigan St., Notre Dame, and Tennessee, all good P5 jobs. That's why a guy like Luke Fickell is not going to chase just any P5 job. He's going to wait for the right opportunity.
 
1.FSU
2.Mizzou
3.OLE Miss
4.Arkansa
5.USF
6.BC
7.Colorado State
8.New Mexico
9.UNLV
10. UTSA
11.Old Dominion.

2 and 3 was real close
 
AndOne said:
Five of these schools pays competitive wages. The rest pays with food stamps.
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Not true. Here's what the top 3 G5 jobs on the list paid:

USF: $2.7 million. This year, he also got a $2.5 million retention bonus.
Colorado St.: $1.8 million plus bonus potential of $905k
UTSA: $1.2 million plus $185k bonus.
 
UConnJim said:
Not true. Here's what the top 3 G5 jobs on the list paid:

USF: $2.7 million. This year, he also got a $2.5 million retention bonus.
Colorado St.: $1.8 million plus bonus potential of $905k
UTSA: $1.2 million plus $185k bonus.
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I was being facetious. The avg salary of those P5 schools is $3.5 mil. That's probably $2 mil+ more on avg than those six other schools. No one with a brain is going to stay at those six schools if offered the HC job at any of those five P5 schools.
 
UConnJim said:
Not true. Here's what the top 3 G5 jobs on the list paid:

USF: $2.7 million. This year, he also got a $2.5 million retention bonus.
Colorado St.: $1.8 million plus bonus potential of $905k
UTSA: $1.2 million plus $185k bonus.
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I think UConn initially paid Diaco 1.6 million, which was like 200k less than Clemson was paying Dabo. Then P5 money happened and coaching salaries exploded.
 
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Wanna know why Helton is sticking around? Check out the first half of USC’s 2020 schedule. 2021 is a cakewalk by comparison. Why set the new guy up for failure?
 
Rich said:
Wanna know why Helton is sticking around? Check out the first half of USC’s 2020 schedule. 2021 is a cakewalk by comparison. Why set the new guy up for failure?
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Urban Meyer probably turned them down.
 
ShakyTheMohel said:
Urban Meyer probably turned them down.
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Nah. SC is a top 5 coach job. They can get anyone. They’re throwing Helton back to the wolves and biding time. Their recruiting class is also weak, so he can blamed for that as well. He’s a lame duck patsy any way you slice it.
 
Rich said:
Nah. SC is a top 5 coach job. They can get anyone. They’re throwing Helton back to the wolves and biding time. Their recruiting class is also weak, so he can blamed for that as well. He’s a lame duck patsy any way you slice it.
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Biding time for what?
 
Samoo said:
With all the competition for head coaches out there, it is just as well that Randy stays around for one more year.
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I was thinking this as well. Then I wondered whether some of these guys who are newly available might be clear upgrades over Randy. I doubt we'd make a move, but it could be a chance to grab a guy who didn't meet expectations at one school, but who could meet our expectations.
 
1.Mizzou - Money, chance to win, low pressure
2.Arkansas - among the lower pressure SEC jobs
3.USF - FL recruiting, can win, no pressure, door to huge P5 payday
4.OLE Miss - Beat Miss St and you're King
5.FSU - you can't win enough there to satisfy boosters.
6.BC - low expectations, P5 money, dead end job

Whatever...:
7.Colorado State
8.New Mexico
9.UNLV
10. UTSA
11.Old Dominion.[/QUOTE]
 
SubbaBub said:
1.Mizzou - Money, chance to win, low pressure
2.Arkansas - among the lower pressure SEC jobs
3.USF - FL recruiting, can win, no pressure, door to huge P5 payday
4.OLE Miss - Beat Miss St and you're King
5.FSU - you can't win enough there to satisfy boosters.
6.BC - low expectations, P5 money, dead end job

Whatever...:
7.Colorado State
8.New Mexico
9.UNLV
10. UTSA
11.Old Dominion.
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FSU is by far the best job on the list. They are in the weak ACC and they should be 1st or 2nd in the ACC Atlantic every year. They have 2 national championships in the past 20 years. If you want to win a national championship, FSU is one of the places you can do it and it is the only place on the list that you can. Yes, expectations are high, but they should be.

At Arkansas, expectations are way too high for a school in the SEC West. Are they a better program than LSU, Alabama, Auburn, Texas A&M? No, and they play them every year.

Finally, Missouri is a very tough job. Natural recruiting base is Texas, but they almost never play in Texas anymore. SEC East has been weak, but Florida seems to be back and Tennessee seems to be on an upward trajectory. They just fired their coach (an alum!) after 4 seasons after finishing 3rd, 4th, and 4th in the SEC East. You think they should be finishing higher than that on a consistent basis? That is high pressure.
 
FSU is by far the best job on the list. They are in the weak ACC and they should be 1st or 2nd in the ACC Atlantic every year. They have 2 national championships in the past 20 years. If you want to win a national championship, FSU is one of the places you can do it and it is the only place on the list that you can. Yes, expectations are high, but they should be.

At Arkansas, expectations are way too high for a school in the SEC West. Are they a better program than LSU, Alabama, Auburn, Texas A&M? No, and they play them every year.

Finally, Missouri is a very tough job. Natural recruiting base is Texas, but they almost never play in Texas anymore. SEC East has been weak, but Florida seems to be back and Tennessee seems to be on an upward trajectory. They just fired their coach (an alum!) after 4 seasons after finishing 3rd, 4th, and 4th in the SEC East. You think they should be finishing higher than that on a consistent basis? That is high pressure.
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Agreed...what happened to Odom is proof that Mizzou is not a low pressure job. FSU the best job by far. Other than Clemson, ACC is wide open. Great recruiting...soft conference. Much easier than SEC.
 
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