2018 Coach Chill expectations

[HuskiesAllDay]

Take some care in reading his Reply to your post please.

He strongly agrees with all that you champion in Jim Calhoun.

He also states facts that cannot be denied about flaws in the last years of coaching, during a time of changes in academic reporting, player eligibility, NBA Draft rules, Conference Realignment.

Ask yourself why someone as competitive as JC would retire with only3 and 6 wins fewer than Dean Smith and Adolph Rupp, or if he didn't imagine the year before that he'd surpass Bobby Knight as well, having finished only 26 wins behind him.

His career performance overall was extraordinary, but its closure & aftermath was not on par. That need not be interpreted as a complaint, just accepting of reality.

What are you trying to say? That JC left the program because he saw it was in bad shape?

Not disagreeing; this is an honest question.

 

[MSGSeven]

Bottom line the UConn program is at a crossroads but KO has done enough in his life, playing career and coaching career to warrant optimism that he is going to turn it around...plus Jalen Adams is a beast

 

[upstater]

Reading this board, I have to shake my head. I never would have dreamed that the transition from Calhoun to Ollie would have gone as well as it did. Beyond wildest dreams. In 2012, I never would have believed.

The fact that 2016-2017 devolved to a losing season is bad. But if you're going to throw it all out now, after the most successful transition from HOF coach to young guy (can you think of a more successful transition? Because I can't), you apparently had higher hopes after Calhoun.

 

[Chief00]

Take some care in reading his Reply to your post please.

He strongly agrees with all that you champion in Jim Calhoun.

He also states facts that cannot be denied about flaws in the last years of coaching, during a time of changes in academic reporting, player eligibility, NBA Draft rules, Conference Realignment.

Ask yourself why someone as competitive as JC would retire with only3 and 6 wins fewer than Dean Smith and Adolph Rupp, or if he didn't imagine the year before that he'd surpass Bobby Knight as well, having finished only 26 wins behind him.

His career performance overall was extraordinary, but its closure & aftermath was not on par. That need not be interpreted as a complaint, just accepting of reality.

If Drummond had stayed, he would have.

 

[Hans Sprungfeld]

What are you trying to say? That JC left the program because he saw it was in bad shape?

Not disagreeing; this is an honest question.

First off, I have no inside information.

The vibe surrounding JC's departure always felt like a plea bargain of sorts: "Accept this silly retroactive APR thing and we'll leave it there. You can retire for health reasons, sitting down before passing legendary coaches from Indiana, Kentucky, and North Carolina, or we'll give you no peace. You're already limited in recruits and contacts, and when the music stops, there might not even be enough P5 chairs for UConn. Talk to your wife about it."

Insult to injury is that Syracuse's title & sufficient wins to drop Boeheim behind Calhoun haven't been vacated.

He worked miracles through several evolutions of the game, but time caught up. Sucky, yes.

 

[Huskymagic]

Chief is right on this. All of us should be grateful to Jim Calhoun including Ollie because with the players he left him, he was able to win a championship and solidify his place at UCONN and make millions.

Coach Chillious needs to deliver big in 2018 recruiting or he will have not been worth the price to have brought him in to the program in the first place. So far we haven't seen real results from a guy lauded as one of the best. I like Chillious, but much is expected of him.

Main problem with this line of thought is that we are expecting the assistant coach to recruit in order to save the head coach from himself. Calimari, K, Williams, Pitino, Calhoun etc were the recruiters to close not their assistants.

PS: Who has Dwayne Killings brought in for us?

 

[gtcam]

Chief is right on this. All of us should be grateful to Jim Calhoun including Ollie because with the players he left him, he was able to win a championship and solidify his place at UConn and make millions.

Coach Chillious needs to deliver big in 2018 recruiting or he will have not been worth the price to have brought him in to the program in the first place. So far we haven't seen real results from a guy lauded as one of the best. I like Chillious, but much is expected of him.

Main problem with this line of thought is that we are expecting the assistant coach to recruit in order to save the head coach from himself. Calimari, K, Williams, Pitino, Calhoun etc were the recruiters to close not their assistants.

PS: Who has Dwayne Killings brought in for us?

Chill has been on the job, what 2 months? Yeah he should have brought in a bevy of 5*s
GET REAL
Do you know Killings hasn't been working on any kids? I expected nothing from him until 2018 at the best

 

[GemParty]

Chief is right on this. All of us should be grateful to Jim Calhoun including Ollie because with the players he left him, he was able to win a championship and solidify his place at UConn and make millions.

Coach Chillious needs to deliver big in 2018 recruiting or he will have not been worth the price to have brought him in to the program in the first place. So far we haven't seen real results from a guy lauded as one of the best. I like Chillious, but much is expected of him.

Main problem with this line of thought is that we are expecting the assistant coach to recruit in order to save the head coach from himself. Calimari, K, Williams, Pitino, Calhoun etc were the recruiters to close not their assistants.

PS: Who has Dwayne Killings brought in for us?

Think DK got us Polley & Carlton?

 

[Chief00]

Again, Calhoun would not have retired if Dre came back. It had nothing to do with Roscoe.

 

[gtcam]

Chief is right on this. All of us should be grateful to Jim Calhoun including Ollie because with the players he left him, he was able to win a championship and solidify his place at UConn and make millions.

Coach Chillious needs to deliver big in 2018 recruiting or he will have not been worth the price to have brought him in to the program in the first place. So far we haven't seen real results from a guy lauded as one of the best. I like Chillious, but much is expected of him.

Main problem with this line of thought is that we are expecting the assistant coach to recruit in order to save the head coach from himself. Calimari, K, Williams, Pitino, Calhoun etc were the recruiters to close not their assistants.

PS: Who has Dwayne Killings brought in for us?

Killings had his hand in landing ONUORAH

 

[Hans Sprungfeld]

Again, Calhoun would not have retired if Dre came back. It had nothing to do with Roscoe.

Saying something that's both irrelevant & self-evident once is enough, not to belabor that this is an Assistant Coach expectations thread that has already morphed into discussion of Head Coaches. Stick to your strengths, not your obsessions.

 

[Javjudah]

Chief - I did not realize that I needed to spell out everything for you, since you have been around for almost as long as I have, but here goes:

I obviously was referring to: Alex Oriakhi, Roscoe Smith and Michael Bradley. We were talking about 2008 to 2012 (Calhoun's last year) and the aftermath of the APR ban and the NCAA recruiting violations for which we were punished that happened under Calhoun's watch; including the 3 aforementioned transfers. 2 of which were starters and integral parts of our team at the time, including the 2011 National Championship. Those transfers combined with the recruiting restrictions thanks to the Nate Miles/Josh Nochimson illegal agent incident caused serious depth issues in our front court through 2015.

All of that under Calhoun... zero responsibility to Ollie. All of that combined to hurt our longer term depth (particularly in the front court), which played substantial roles in our 2012-2013 through 2014-2015 and could even make the case for the 2015-2016 season.

I was not referring to Enoch, Jackson and Durham in my post. As I have stated in previous posts in other threads, those are Ollie's responsibility. You are mixing the two situations up.

I am a die hard Uconn Fan for almost 30 years. I decided to join this forum to give my 2 cents. Lstudfellow is on the right path with his observation in my opinion. Coach Jim Calhoun is the Greatest college coach and father figure to his players in opinion. I think most of you are forgetting that the last few years of Coach Calhoun tenure was full of Negative recruiting. Coaches were using his health, age, APR, and the ban against him. I remember vividly having this discussion with Coach Jay Wright about this. We didn't had the same quantity of quality recruits his last few years. Deandre Daniels and Andre Drummond was pure luck. We were hoping Omar Calhoun didn't de-commit. Most of us was wondering then how did we come to settle for a Phil Nolan (no pun intended). Coach Ollie was the best person for the the job following coach Calhoun. Miraculously he won a Chamionship with the roster he had. He is still paying the price for the last few years of the greatest college coach of all time era.