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“Fall” 2021 TV Viewership

If you look at these numbers and compared them to the social media numbers of players like Paige, the real value in many ways is their social media presence. There are some high school players in southern Cal who are now getting NIL deals. It's their social media presence as much as anything they generate in TV audiences and such. This is why some players get major deals and some get next to nothing. The time they spend developing their PR and social media presence is well spent.
 
awhom111 said:
1/30 Duke-Louisville ESPN 224,000
1/31 Ohio State-Iowa Big Ten Network 164,000


SNY sometimes reports their own numbers if they are good.

These numbers are average viewers (based on their viewer sample and not attempting to find out what everybody in the United States is watching). If ten minutes was a tenth of the game, that would be the equivalent of a tenth of a viewer.
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Is the Ohio State - Iowa game the biggest Conference Network game of the year?
 
The numbers, which all end in ",000", are projections off of a relatively small audience base. If the numbers were actual viewers you would not expect all of them to end in 000. The numbers are an indicator, not an actual fact, which is about as good as it's going to get. I'm guessing that they get fairly sophisticated with the audience base to make the projection. Any network people out there to shed some more light on this?
 
2/4 Texas-Baylor ESPN2 258,000
visitingcock said:
Is the Ohio State - Iowa game the biggest Conference Network game of the year?
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Apparently it is the biggest number of all time. FOX pays for Big Ten Network to be rated, unlike ESPN's choice not to pay for the channels it owns in their entirety, SEC Network, ACC Network, and Longhorn Network so I suppose we will never know.
Skeets said:
The numbers, which all end in ",000", are projections off of a relatively small audience base. If the numbers were actual viewers you would not expect all of them to end in 000. The numbers are an indicator, not an actual fact, which is about as good as it's going to get. I'm guessing that they get fairly sophisticated with the audience base to make the projection. Any network people out there to shed some more light on this?
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Yes, there is a lot of work to get a representative sample, and just as importantly, try to utilize technology to make sure that the sample people are actually watching, unlike social media views that include autoplays and people who start watching, but leave their device with it still playing. I am not sure what the current equivalent of one person in the sample watching an entire event is in terms of estimated viewers. A lot of people are conceptually annoyed by the use of a sample, but I wonder if they would really accept technology spying on them to determine exactly what they are actually watching and not just what is playing on their device.
 
Neilsen used to be the major ratings service and that included sample boxes so it's statistical sampling with a significant enough sample size to approximate to the thousands. I haven't been involved for many years though so it's probably changed. There are probably several major services now but Neilsen was considered the best as they knew exactly what people were watching and when they changed the channel. Most major Cable TV and satellite programming services are digital with a sweep every few seconds to determine viewership. Such services are relatively accurate because it's very important to have good numbers for advertising decisions.

Now can someone tell me where to go for player +/- statistics? I'm not seeing that data in google searches.
 
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Trust me, if you are watching on the internet, via a satellite feed or on cable they know who's watching or at least what each location is watching. Since you often have to log in to things like foxsports.com they know YOU are watching. With modern TV's they probably have some access to similar data as well.
 
1. UConn-UCLA (ABC) 839,000

2. Tenn at UConn (Fox) 694,000

3. SCar - NCState (ESPN) 506,000

4. SCar - UConn (ESPN) 489,000
5. Ole Miss-SCar (ESPN) 405,000

6. Stanford - Tenn (ESPN2) 365,000
7. Louisville- NC State (ESPN) 364,000
8. Stanford -SCar (ESPN2) 314,000

9. Kentucky - SCar (ESPN) 294,000
10. Louisville -UConn (ESPN) 281,000
11. Kentucky- Louisville (ESPN) 280,000
12. Michigan v Louisville (ESPN) 280,000
13. Texas - Baylor ( ESPN 2 ) 258,000

14. Baylor - Michigan (ESPN) 242,000
15. Maryland - SCar (ESPN) 235,000
16. Texas - Tenn (ESPN) 232,000
17. Duke - Louisville (ESPN) 224,000
18. UConn -GaTech (ESPN) 222,000
19. UConn - Oregon (ESPN) 211,000

Unless I missed one/some:

Six of the TV audiences over 200,000 watched UConn (including UConn v. SCar) 2,736,000 eyeballs
Six of the TV audiences over 200,000 watched SCar (ditto) 2,243, 000 eyeballs
Louisville draws some eyeballs too. (5 games; 1,065,000)

8 of the TV audiences over 200,00 watched games not involving SCar or UConn.

Conclusion: UConn good for TV
SCar (or the number one team perhaps) good for TV.
Louisville up and comer!

PAC: Ya'll did fire Larry Scott, didn't you? Get a TV package!



Of course there were an abundance of games viewed by less than 200,000. I'm just looking at the "big ones."
 
visitingcock said:
1. UConn-UCLA (ABC) 839,000

2. Tenn at UConn (Fox) 694,000

3. SCar - NCState (ESPN) 506,000

4. SCar - UConn (ESPN) 489,000
5. Ole Miss-SCar (ESPN) 405,000

6. Stanford - Tenn (ESPN2) 365,000
7. Louisville- NC State (ESPN) 364,000
8. Stanford -SCar (ESPN2) 314,000

9. Kentucky - SCar (ESPN) 294,000
10. Louisville -UConn (ESPN) 281,000
11. Kentucky- Louisville (ESPN) 280,000
12. Michigan v Louisville (ESPN) 280,000
13. Texas - Baylor ( ESPN 2 ) 258,000

14. Baylor - Michigan (ESPN) 242,000
15. Maryland - SCar (ESPN) 235,000
16. Texas - Tenn (ESPN) 232,000
17. Duke - Louisville (ESPN) 224,000
18. UConn -GaTech (ESPN) 222,000
19. UConn - Oregon (ESPN) 211,000

Unless I missed one/some:

Six of the TV audiences over 200,000 watched UConn (including UConn v. SCar) 2,736,000 eyeballs
Six of the TV audiences over 200,000 watched SCar (ditto) 2,243, 000 eyeballs
Louisville draws some eyeballs too. (5 games; 1,065,000)

8 of the TV audiences over 200,00 watched games not involving SCar or UConn.

Conclusion: UConn good for TV
SCar (or the number one team perhaps) good for TV.
Louisville up and comer!

PAC: Ya'll did fire Larry Scott, didn't you? Get a TV package!



Of course there were an abundance of games viewed by less than 200,000. I'm just looking at the "big ones."
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UConn 6
sc 6
Lou 5
Tenn 3
NCSt, Stan, bay, Tex, Mich, ky 2
Ucla, md, gat, ore, Duke, Miss 1

sec 12
ACC 9
Bge 6
PAC 4
B12 4
B10 3
 
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2/6 Tennessee-UConn FOX 658,000
2/6 Texas A&M-Kentucky ESPN2 125,000
2/6 Creighton-Marquette FS1 86,000
2/6 Baylor-Texas ESPN2 160,000
2/6 Iowa-Michigan Big Ten Network 130,000

TeamFirst! said:
Trust me, if you are watching on the internet, via a satellite feed or on cable they know who's watching or at least what each location is watching. Since you often have to log in to things like foxsports.com they know YOU are watching. With modern TV's they probably have some access to similar data as well.
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Yes, but they do not know how many people are watching or if the people are actually watching and not just leaving the feed on somewhere, which is how a lot of fans of music and television are now trying to do to keep their favorites scoring well. Nielsen's measuring devices have the viewers confirm their viewing regularly.
visitingcock said:
Unless I missed one/some:

Six of the TV audiences over 200,000 watched UConn (including UConn v. SCar) 2,736,000 eyeballs
Six of the TV audiences over 200,000 watched SCar (ditto) 2,243, 000 eyeballs
Louisville draws some eyeballs too. (5 games; 1,065,000)
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Shouldn't you multiply by two for eyeball counts? :cool:
 
A little curious what the halftime reveal will do to the numbers for SCar/KY tonight. Numbers were pretty good for the first game, but not very close to the Miss/SCar reveal game.
 
On Feb. 20, 2022, ABC will broadcast the Tenn game at Scar at 1:00 pm. Preceding the game at noon, ABC will conduct its Gameday from the Carolina Colonial Life Center.

This will be the first Gameday broadcast from a wbb game in 11 years. That last broadcast was from a UConn v. Tennessee game
 
visitingcock said:
On Feb. 20, 2022, ABC will broadcast the Tenn game at Scar at 1:00 pm. Preceding the game at noon, ABC will conduct its Gameday from the Carolina Colonial Life Center.

This will be the first Gameday broadcast from a wbb game in 11 years. That last broadcast was from a UConn v. Tennessee game
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I thought they did one on 2/9/15 at SC when they were ranked #1 and UConn was #2 and Stewie and Co. proceeded with a 87-62 drumming. That was after everyone on the panel was saying that SC will win.
 
MSGRET said:
I thought they did one on 2/9/15 at SC when they were ranked #1 and UConn was #2 and Stewie and Co. proceeded with a 87-62 drumming. That was after everyone on the panel was saying that SC will win.
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According to SCar news sources, we have never hosted Gameday. That was a hyped game but not Gameday. The last that I know of was UConn/Tennessee 11 years ago.

Hope that ESPN/ABC will do at least one each year going forward!
 
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visitingcock said:
According to SCar news sources, we have never hosted Gameday. That was a hyped game but not Gameday. The last that I know of was UConn/Tennessee 11 years ago.

Hope that ESPN/ABC will do at least one each year going forward!
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UConn didn't play Tennessee 11 years ago. Summitt ended the series after the 2007 season. The men's Gameday show (Bilas, etc) did its Saturday morning show from Gampel on January 16, 2010 and then UConn played Notre Dame during the Saturday night slot on ESPN typically reserved for men's games. Dan Schulman, Dick Vitale and Doris Burke were the broadcast team for the game.

Perhaps Tennessee subsequently hosted the Gameday show as well but it was not before a UConn game.
 
UConnCat said:
UConn didn't play Tennessee 11 years ago. Summitt ended the series after the 2007 season. The men's Gameday show (Bilas, etc) did its Saturday morning show from Gampel on January 16, 2010 and then UConn played Notre Dame during the Saturday night slot on ESPN typically reserved for men's games. Dan Schulman, Dick Vitale and Doris Burke were the broadcast team for the game.

Perhaps Tennessee subsequently hosted the Gameday show as well but it was not before a UConn game.
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Found an article from SC on this and also did a little checking.

Gameday did a show from Knoxville in 2011 as part of Tennessee's men's and women's doubleheader against Vanderbilt. The Lady Vols played Saturday night or the second game of the doubleheader. Next Sunday's Gameday show in Columbia is different than what took place in Storrs in 2010 and Knoxville in 2011. In those instances it was the Men's Gameday show (Jay Bilas, Rece Davis, etc) that did its show in connection with a women's game or, in the case of Tennessee, a men's/women's doubleheader. The women's games were broadcast during the Saturday night ESPN slot typically reserved for men's games. The men's broadcast team did the women's games. Next Sunday's Gameday show is the women's version with the normal studio host/analysts doing a pregame show on location. It's still very important and should happen every year.

From the SC article which is not entirely accurate.

College Gameday’s trip to visit Dawn Staley’s USC will be its first time making an exclusive trip to a women’s basketball game in 11 years. The show has previously highlighted UConn in 2010 and Tennessee in 2011.

Doors to Colonial Life Arena will open at 11:30 a.m. for ticket holders to attend the pregame show. College GameDay will be hosted by Elle Duncan and feature analysts Carolyn Peck, Rebecca Lobo, Holly Rowe and Andraya Carter.

Read more at: https://www.thestate.com/sports/col...asketball/article258257395.html#storylink=cpy
 
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UConnCat said:
Found an article from SC on this and also did a little checking.

Gameday did a show from Knoxville in 2011 as part of Tennessee's men's and women's doubleheader against Vanderbilt. The Lady Vols played Saturday night or the second game of the doubleheader. Next Sunday's Gameday show in Columbia is different than what took place in Storrs in 2010 and Knoxville in 2011. In those instances it was the Men's Gameday show (Jay Bilas, Rece Davis, etc) that did its show in connection with a women's game or, in the case of Tennessee, a men's/women's doubleheader. The women's games were broadcast during the Saturday night ESPN slot typically reserved for men's games. The men's broadcast team did the women's games. Next Sunday's Gameday show is the women's version with the normal studio host/analysts doing a pregame show on location. It's still very important and should happen every year.

From the SC article which is not entirely accurate.

College Gameday’s trip to visit Dawn Staley’s USC will be its first time making an exclusive trip to a women’s basketball game in 11 years. The show has previously highlighted UConn in 2010 and Tennessee in 2011.

Doors to Colonial Life Arena will open at 11:30 a.m. for ticket holders to attend the pregame show. College GameDay will be hosted by Elle Duncan and feature analysts Carolyn Peck, Rebecca Lobo, Holly Rowe and Andraya Carter.

Read more at: https://www.thestate.com/sports/col...asketball/article258257395.html#storylink=cpy
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Thanks!

Yes, it should happen AT LEAST once a year. In fact, it should have happened this year at the first game - SCar at NCState!
 
eebmg said:
Oh. I forgot ND vs UConn was on FS1. That explains it.
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Also, this was early in the season when ND fans expected a blowout and didn't even watch.
 
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These numbers overall are almost throw away numbers for network programmers but there are so many channels now and they need to fill them. Fortunately the rights to women's games are probably cheap. It's no surprise to see a women's game up against a football game for example. It's counter programming and sometimes they want to chip away at the other guys market share, and if you are a sports satellite channel what else are you going to do other than show a sports event? Overall I think the investment in the women's college game in particular is good. It should grow. Women's national team soccer now out sells the men's game in the US if I remember correctly.
 
Big stars can really help promote the sport. Michael Jordan took the NBA to another level as did Magic and Bird. The NCAA really needs stars like Paige and Azzi and Boston...etc. I'm now a fan specifically because of Paige. I'd never watched a single women's college game before Paige for more than a few minutes. I could see that Paige was special and warranted a further look.
 
awhom111 said:
2/13 South Carolina-Georgia ESPN2 151,000
2/13 Notre Dame-Louisville ESPN 460,000
2/13 UConn-Marquette FOX 525,000
2/14 Maryland-Iowa ESPN2 161,000
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It seems that UConn would occupy at least half of the top 10.
 
This article indicates that the recent Tenn - UConn game on Fox may have been the first regular season womens game broadcast in 4K HDR ever, or at least in recent years.
It wasn't broadcast in native 4K HDR, but was converted to the 4K HDR format through a process called upscaling.

tvanswerman.com

Fox to Air Women's College Basketball Game In 4K - The TV Answer Man!

Fox and ESPN have both broadcast numerous men’s college basketball games in 4K over the last few years. But Fox may be establishing a first this Sunday when it airs the Connecticut-Tennessee women’s college basketball game in 4K HDR. With 4K broadcasts still relatively rare compared to HD, the...
tvanswerman.com tvanswerman.com
 
Childhood said:
It seems that UConn would occupy at least half of the top 10.
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Ya think? (Just kidding around).

Five out of top ten including all of the Top 4. 5 outta' the Top 6. SCar should bring huge numbers this Saturday with Gameday and ABC coverage but we'll see if it encroaches on UConn's Top 4.

all games with over 200,000 viewers - unless @awhom111 corrects me.

  • UConn-UCLA (ABC) 839,000
  • Tenn at UConn (Fox) 694,000
  • Tennessee-UConn FOX 658,00
  • UConn-Marquette FOX 525,000
  • SCar - NCState (ESPN) 506,000

  • SCar - UConn (ESPN) 489,000
  • Notre Dame-Louisville ESPN 460,000
  • Ole Miss-SCar (ESPN) 405,000
  • 2/10 SCar Kentucky ESPN 402,000

  • Stanford - Tenn (ESPN2) 365,000
  • Louisville- NC State (ESPN) 364,000
  • Stanford -SCar (ESPN2) 314,000

  • Kentucky - SCar (ESPN) 294,000
  • Louisville -UConn (ESPN) 281,000
  • Kentucky- Louisville (ESPN) 280,000
  • Michigan v Louisville (ESPN) 280,000
  • Texas - Baylor ( ESPN 2 ) 258,000
  • Baylor - Michigan (ESPN) 242,000
  • Maryland - SCar (ESPN) 235,000
  • Texas - Tenn (ESPN) 232,000
  • Duke - Louisville (ESPN) 224,000
  • UConn -GaTech (ESPN) 222,000
  • UConn - Oregon (ESPN) 211,000
 
visitingcock said:
Ya think? (Just kidding around).

Five out of top ten including all of the Top 4. 5 outta' the Top 6. SCar should bring huge numbers this Saturday with Gameday and ABC coverage but we'll see if it encroaches on UConn's Top 4.

all games with over 200,000 viewers - unless @awhom111 corrects me.

  • UConn-UCLA (ABC) 839,000
  • Tenn at UConn (Fox) 694,000
  • Tennessee-UConn FOX 658,00
  • UConn-Marquette FOX 525,000
  • SCar - NCState (ESPN) 506,000

  • SCar - UConn (ESPN) 489,000
  • Notre Dame-Louisville ESPN 460,000
  • Ole Miss-SCar (ESPN) 405,000
  • 2/10 SCar Kentucky ESPN 402,000

  • Stanford - Tenn (ESPN2) 365,000
  • Louisville- NC State (ESPN) 364,000
  • Stanford -SCar (ESPN2) 314,000

  • Kentucky - SCar (ESPN) 294,000
  • Louisville -UConn (ESPN) 281,000
  • Kentucky- Louisville (ESPN) 280,000
  • Michigan v Louisville (ESPN) 280,000
  • Texas - Baylor ( ESPN 2 ) 258,000
  • Baylor - Michigan (ESPN) 242,000
  • Maryland - SCar (ESPN) 235,000
  • Texas - Tenn (ESPN) 232,000
  • Duke - Louisville (ESPN) 224,000
  • UConn -GaTech (ESPN) 222,000
  • UConn - Oregon (ESPN) 211,000
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proving, once again, it's all just more data supporting the reality that
wbb is nothing more than the Huskie Invitational Tournament. the rest of the pretenders are just squirrels, looking for a nut.
roll out geno, buckets, and the rest for a big game, and who do you think wbb fans, of any stripe, will be watching, hmmm? woof!
 
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