UConn Rotation Rankings when they were recruits

[nelsonmuntz]

UConn's Top 7 with 247 recruiting ranking coming out of high school:

Tristan Newton - unranked
Cam Spencer - 100+
Alex Karaban - 100+
Donovan Clingan - 74
Stephon Castle - 9
Hassan Diarra - 98
Samson Johnson - 58


Maybe some blog nerds are not the best assessors of talent. I also think you will see more and more coaches de-emphasize high school recruiting and focus on the transfer portal.


P.S. I typed this post while watching a player that was COMPLETELY off the recruiting radar, Dalton Knecht, carrying a Tennessee team, and Edey was #75 in his class.

 

[HuskyWarrior611]

Keep in mind, they rank these guys based on NBA potential. Not college potential.

When looking at it from that lense all these rankings make sense. Except Clingan would be under ranked.

 

[SubbaBub]

Recruiting rankings don't matter outside of broad tiers and it's very difficult to project improvement and attitude.

 

[tzznandrew]

Keep in mind, they rank these guys based on NBA potential. Not college potential.

When looking at it from that lense all these rankings make sense. Except Clingan would be under ranked.

The RSCI rating had Clingan 37. Still too low, but higher.

Karaban enrolled early, and I think that threw off the rankings because he graduated mid-year. He was in the 70s or so when he committed.

 

[k-walk]

UConn's Top 7 with 247 recruiting ranking coming out of high school:

Tristan Newton - unranked
Cam Spencer - 100+
Alex Karaban - 100+
Donovan Clingan - 74
Stephon Castle - 9
Hassan Diarra - 98
Samson Johnson - 58


Maybe some blog nerds are not the best assessors of talent. I also think you will see more and more coaches de-emphasize high school recruiting and focus on the transfer portal.


P.S. I typed this post while watching a player that was COMPLETELY off the recruiting radar, Dalton Knecht, carrying a Tennessee team, and Edey was #75 in his class.

First team all American and still can’t spell his name right

 

[HuskyFich]

Recruiting rankings don't matter outside of broad tiers and it's very difficult to project improvement and attitude.

This is why Calamari is drifting out to sea.

Give me a hard nosed 3 star over a high potential but low hunger 4/5 star anyday

 

[Waquoit]

Stephon Castle - 9

And iirc, Castle wasn't Top 10 when he committed. Wasn't he much higher?

 

[jontaejones]

Apples to oranges.

Tristen Newton and Cam Spencer are 5th year seniors.

You cannot expect most freshmen to be better than guys with 5 years of experience.

Some of the highest rated guys in their class are bonafide NBA stars right now.

Tyrese Maxey and Anthony Edwards ... just to start. Imagine if Maxey had decided to stay 5 years at UK.

 

[Huskyforlife]

Apples to oranges.

Tristen Newton and Cam Spencer are 5th year seniors.

You cannot expect most freshmen to be better than guys with 5 years of experience.

Some of the highest rated guys in their class are bonafide NBA stars right now.

Tyrese Maxey and Anthony Edwards ... just to start. Imagine if Maxey had decided to stay 5 years at UK.

Imagine if Steph Castle stayed 5 years at UConn? That's why you build around talented kids that need guidance to reach their potential, not guys who are passing time until the NBA draft.

 

[Omahabound]

This is why Calamari is drifting out to sea.

Give me a hard nosed 3 star over a high potential but low hunger 4/5 star anyday

A 3 star with talent. Otherwise, talent wins out in the long run but I understand the point ur making and I agree with that.

 

[caw]

Apples to oranges.

Tristen Newton and Cam Spencer are 5th year seniors.

You cannot expect most freshmen to be better than guys with 5 years of experience.

Some of the highest rated guys in their class are bonafide NBA stars right now.

Tyrese Maxey and Anthony Edwards ... just to start. Imagine if Maxey had decided to stay 5 years at UK.

But...isn't that the point of the post?

 

[Drumguy]

And iirc, Castle wasn't Top 10 when he committed. Wasn't he much higher?

I think he as more like 24 iirc.

 

[UConnJim]

This is not a UConn-only phenomenon. Look at where 4 of the 10 consensus 1st team All-Americans for this year started out: East Carolina, George Mason, Northern Colorado (Northeastern Junior College), and Ohio University. And, one other transferred from Michigan to Kansas. And, only 1 of the 1st team consensus was a top 100 recruit and 3 of the 2nd team were.

 

[Samoo]

Imagine if Steph Castle stayed 5 years at UConn? That's why you build around talented kids that need guidance to reach their potential, not guys who are passing time until the NBA draft.

I'm confused, are you saying we shouldn't have recruited Stephon Castle because he won't stay for 5 years; because that is the logical conclusion to your post.

 

[Inyatkin]

Maybe some blog nerds are not the best assessors of talent. I also think you will see more and more coaches de-emphasize high school recruiting and focus on the transfer portal.

This is fine, but it's not some great insight. Until very recently transfers had to sit out a year, which wasn't good for them or the teams looking to improve. Of course with something akin to free agency you'll see more teams opt for guys who have already proven they can play.

 

[Huskyforlife]

I'm confused, are you saying we shouldn't have recruited Stephon Castle because he won't stay for 5 years; because that is the logical conclusion to your post.

I said don’t recruit kids that are passing time until the draft, does Castle play like someone doing that? Thats the logical conclusion of your post.

 

[Jaydumo20]

UConn's Top 7 with 247 recruiting ranking coming out of high school:

Tristan Newton - unranked
Cam Spencer - 100+
Alex Karaban - 100+
Donovan Clingan - 74
Stephon Castle - 9
Hassan Diarra - 98
Samson Johnson - 58


Maybe some blog nerds are not the best assessors of talent. I also think you will see more and more coaches de-emphasize high school recruiting and focus on the transfer portal.


P.S. I typed this post while watching a player that was COMPLETELY off the recruiting radar, Dalton Knecht, carrying a Tennessee team, and Edey was #75 in his class.

That's impressive. Also, my opinion, Cam and Newt may not have gotten NBA looks if they stayed in Jersey and ECar (respectively) Newt wouldn't have been an All-American as a pirate. Trust

Side note- I love BYers who never start their own threads, but love to pick on a small error or nit pick every little thing in another poster's thread. They are truly God's children.

 

[Waquoit]

A good bar bet is: "Name the second-highest ranked recruit in the Top 7". One guess.

 

[Jaydumo20]

Keep in mind, they rank these guys based on NBA potential. Not college potential.

When looking at it from that lense all these rankings make sense. Except Clingan would be under ranked.

Newton will probably be drafted and so will Cam. Newton unranked is the biggest whiff IMO. Unless I misread your post.

 

[businesslawyer]

Keep in mind, they rank these guys based on NBA potential. Not college potential.

When looking at it from that lense all these rankings make sense. Except Clingan would be under ranked.

Well, then they may make sense, but it makes no sense that a college coach or fan would care about them very much.

I also don't think you're right. I think if you asked the services they are trying to rank on college potential. They're just not all that good at it. But happy to be proven wrong if you can point me to anything.

 

[auror]

A good bar bet is: "Name the second-highest ranked recruit in the Top 7". One guess.

You going by RSCI or 247 composite? It makes a difference.

 

[HuskyWarrior611]

Well, then they may make sense, but it makes no sense that a college coach or fan would care about them very much.

I also don't think you're right. I think if you asked the services they are trying to rank on college potential. They're just not all that good at it. But happy to be proven wrong if you can point me to anything.

This is for football, but I’d think the same concept works for basketball as well.

I believe the train of thought is that if they are going to be a good pro prospect then they should also be a good college player as well though.

Players are first grouped qualitatively with a star rating, then given a numerical rating based on their future potential, and finally ranked according to these numerical ratings.

110 - 101 = Franchise Player. One of the best players to come along in years, if not decades. Odds of having a player in this category every year is slim. This prospect has “can’t miss” talent.

100 - 98 = Five-star prospect. One of the top 30 players in the nation. This player has excellent pro-potential and should emerge as one of the best in the country before the end of his career. There will be 32 prospects ranked in this range in every football class to mirror the first round of the NFL Draft.

Recruiting: What do all those 'stars' mean?

247Sports, Rivals and ESPN each have a unique way of rating and ranking players.

www.cougcenter.com

 

[Kolumbo]

And iirc, Castle wasn't Top 10 when he committed. Wasn't he much higher?

Can't get much higher than Top 10

 

[ibleedhuskyblue]

I think he as more like 24 iirc.

Actually he was either 36 or 38, i can't remember. I know he was closer to 40 than 30 on his commitment day.