Really solid list.This is where I think we are:
1) SoCar
2) USC
3) Stanford
4) Iowa
5) Texas
6) UCLA
7) Ohio St
8) LSU
9) ND
10) UConn
11) NCSt
12) OreSt
13) VaTech
14) Gonzaga
15) Indiana
16) Colorado
Still in contention: Oklahoma, Kansas St
What would Texas need to do to snag a 1 seed ahead of Iowa? Beat both KSU and Oklahoma?
How much work do KSU and Oklahoma need to do to displace Colorado and/or Indiana for a host spot?
The vexing question of whither the Pac-12 teams looms large once again.This is where I think we are:
1) SoCar
2) USC
3) Stanford
4) Iowa
5) Texas
6) UCLA
7) Ohio St
8) LSU
9) ND
10) UConn
11) NCSt
12) OreSt
13) VaTech
14) Gonzaga
15) Indiana
16) Colorado
Still in contention: Oklahoma, Kansas St
That would mean UCLA as the 2 in SC's region, which I don't see happening. The committee usually believes that the 1 seed has earned the easiest bracket, and particularly this year with SC the far & away #1. UCLA, likely 5 or 6 overall, would be among the tougher #2 seeds.The vexing question of whither the Pac-12 teams looms large once again.
UCLA will be a 2 seed in Albany -- that much is certain. Whichever between USC and Stanford is higher (likely USC) will be in Portland. The big question is does the second team from the Pac-12 also get to be in Portland, or will they be shipped out to Albany to make space for Oregon State to in Portland.
Because OreSU failed to finish second in either the regular season or tourney Pac-12, I don't really think they've earned Portland, even though it would obviously be preferable. But shipping Stanford three thousand miles out to Albany as a no. 1 seed seems pretty objectively unreasonably when they (a) beat OreSU three times, (b) won the regular season title, and (c) went farther in the conference tourney than did OreSU. But if it was based solely on moral worth, they absolutely should be in Portland.The vexing question of whither the Pac-12 teams looms large once again.
UCLA will be a 2 seed in Albany -- that much is certain. Whichever between USC and Stanford is higher (likely USC) will be in Portland. The big question is does the second team from the Pac-12 also get to be in Portland, or will they be shipped out to Albany to make space for Oregon State to in Portland.
Agreed they haven't earned it. But we have seen previous instances where a higher seed sometimes gets shipped out to make room for a lower-seeded "home" assignment.Because OreSU failed to finish second in either the regular season or tourney Pac-12, I don't really think they've earned Portland, even though it would obviously be preferable. But shipping Stanford three thousand miles out to Albany as a no. 1 seed seems pretty objectively unreasonably when they (a) beat OreSU three times, (b) won the regular season title, and (c) went farther in the conference tourney than did OreSU. But if it was based solely on moral worth, they absolutely should be in Portland.
Don't understand what you mean by "Moral Worth". Did a spell checker change a word to moral?Because OreSU failed to finish second in either the regular season or tourney Pac-12, I don't really think they've earned Portland, even though it would obviously be preferable. But shipping Stanford three thousand miles out to Albany as a no. 1 seed seems pretty objectively unreasonably when they (a) beat OreSU three times, (b) won the regular season title, and (c) went farther in the conference tourney than did OreSU. But if it was based solely on moral worth, they absolutely should be in Portland.
Nope. Rueck is a class act. Beers is a class act. No one at OreSU deserved the fate they got dealt in conference realignment. If any team deserves some help from lady luck this season, it's them.Don't understand what you mean by "Moral Worth". Did a spell checker change a word to moral?
I think that's a totally reasonable caveat if we're talking seeding or vs. the field, but we're really talking about whom to reward between a no. 1/2 Stanford and a no. 3 Oregon St with a Portland seeding. And if nothing else, Stanford beat OreSU when they had Beers and we lacked Brink, when we had Brink and they lacked Beers, and this past weekend when both could suit up. So if nothing else, I think Stanford deserves it on the clear head to head advantage.Beers missed quite a few of their losses to some of the better conference teams.
I'm assuming shipping fUCLA east is a foregone conclusion, since they're third behind U$C and Stanford, and have no geographic proximity claim to Portland. So really, it just comes down to Stanford vs. OreSUI don’t understand the debate over how good OregonSt is or isn’t. It’s irrelevant.
The entire issue is whether they’re going to ship 1 Stanford AND 2 UCLA East, with UCLA in SCs bracket.
That’s a lot of accommodation for a 3 seed.
I'm assuming shipping fUCLA east is a foregone conclusion, since they're third behind U$C and Stanford, and have no geographic proximity claim to Portland. So really, it just comes down to Stanford vs. OreSU
OSU's regional location assignment has nothing to do with how soon or how late they might have to face another Pac-12 team. You're guaranteed not to face any of the top 3 teams until the Final Four. There's a chance Colorado could end up a 4 or 5 seed in the same bracket where OSU is a 3, but again that would have nothing to do with location.As much as I want to have the Beavers in the Portland Regional, in some ways I would enjoy seeing the Beavers first 2 games in Corvallis and then have the Beavers play against teams not from the PAC-12 until the Final 4.
1 -4. SCar Iowa Texas (assuming they win out) Stanford
5-8 Southern Cal, UCLA, Notre Dame, UConn
9-12. Oregon State, LSU, Colorado, Gonzaga
13-16. Indiana NC State, Utah, (K-State or Baylor)
Just not seeing a 9 NET spot jump over the team that won their conference in regular season. Could it happen? And no, I don’t see them jumping Iowa even if they do jump all their PAC 12 matesNo way Stan higher than USC. Trojans won at Maples and then yesterday. A day after beating UCLA.
If USC isn’t 2 overall, I don’t know what the committee is doing
You dropped Ohio State completely out of hosting? Tough crowd.1 -4. SCar Iowa Texas (assuming they win out) Stanford
5-8 Southern Cal, UCLA, Notre Dame, UConn
9-12. Oregon State, LSU, Colorado, Gonzaga
13-16. Indiana NC State, Utah, (K-State or Baylor)
Ha ha. Yeah. I’m tough on tOSu. Old football grudge. Really an oversight by me. They should be Colorado’s 3 seed spot. Colorado drops to four seed and Utah drops outin COLORADO You dropped Ohio State completely out of hosting? Tough crowd.
But I thought you were showing K-State or Baylor as the last team in, ahead of Utah?Ha ha. Yeah. I’m tough on tOSu. Old football grudge. Really an oversight by me. They should be Colorado’s 3 seed spot. Colorado drops to four seed and Utah drops out