The Question which won’t go away

[hardcorehusky]

What would improve this entire mess is "better players". Right now UConn is trotting out a mediocre FCS team to play against FBS teams. UConn does not have many players who were coveted by P5 schools or even other AAC programs.

Remember HCRE wasn't a great recruiter the first time at UConn when he had a Big East platform to pitch to potential signee's. Now he doesn't even have that to work to his advantage.

If Randy wasn't such a great recruiter- how did he get 17 plus guys into the NFL? Getting kids to a new D1 program in Connecticut is different than recruiting to West Virginia. At that time amongst our peers (Rutgers BC Cuse) we held our own.

 

[Storrs South]

 

[huskymedic]

So there...

 

[huskymedic]

 

[UConnNick]

I think without blurting it out like Fiasco did, Edsall is treating this season as a throwaway. It's a 12-game exhibition season to see which players have what it takes to play at this level. At present, that number is none too many. I'm not suggesting he's trying to lose games, just that he realistically circled some games he knew we had no chance of winning and is okay with trying different things during those games to see what might work and what doesn't.

 

[Hornet22]

So here’s some perspective

I looked at the defensive rankings and obviously we’re at the bottom.
But two spots from us is PAC 12 Oregon State. They give up around 550 yards per game and 43 points.

I took a gander at their starters on defense.

DE-RS Junior- 3 star
DT- RS Senior- 3 star
DE-Freshman- 3 star
OLB- RS Soph- 3 star
ILB- RS Senior- 3 star
ILB- Junior - 3 star
OLB- Junior- 3 star
CB- RS Senior- 2 star
S- RS Junior- 3 star
S- RS Junior- 3 star
CB- RS Freshman- 3 star

Now some of them have other P5 offers with most having other G5 offers.

They played Ohio State, Southern Utah, Nevada and Arizona.

We played UCF, Boise State, RI and Syracuse. Three top 15 offenses.

I believe when our roster looks like theirs then judge us on the merit. Imagine if three years from now we were giving up numbers like them?

Perspective

 

[huskymedic]

 

[History Geek]

So there...

My #2 team is WF and I follow them closely. Speculation is that Clawson has been concerned about chunk plays since last year, and perhaps the BC and ND games, coupled with 0-3 Purdue shutting down BC, forced him to make the change.

Jay Sawvel OUT as Defensive Coordinator

 

[Austin316]

“We knew our defense would suck this year” - Austin316

“I’m done” - RE2.0

He gave a better answer.

 

[JMick]

Lol so I guess he was still a little upset after sleeping on it

 

[Chief00]

Why do you expect players who are in their first year of being coached by college coaches to have the "coached technique" of players who have had three to five years of being coached by college coaches? Is every other college coach so bad that they don't impart material value on technique after they have had a player for a few months?

It would be great if you'd stop sounding like an idiot on this. Crocker may or may not be back for season 3, but the decision will be made based on whether Edsall feels he's doing a good enough job -- not just because you are frustrated that we don't have enough experienced defensive talent on the roster.

Quite frankly, I don’t see how the below is a post of an “idiot”. Is it unreasonable for a Freshman Defensive Lineman, who has seen significant playing time, by the 4th game of the season to go low for leverage at the goal line? What I saw was Travis Jones standing up and being turned around? I am not taking about perfecting technique, more a general direction. Quite frankly, it does make me worry but I did say the youth argument was “reasonable” but Chief’s was personally skeptical based on things like that.

Chief’s Post:
“Personally, my gut tells me it’s more than just youth. For reasons, discussed in various previous threads, I am skeptical on Crocker. But, it’s a reasonable argument and there will be improvement - the question is how much?
My concern is not only guys being in the wrong place or being too slow or weak. It’s an absence of good coached technique.”

 

[jbdphi]

Randy's full statement was just published (someone with better skills please post it). It's pure Mike Gundy, "I'm a man" style stuff and it ends with him saying that if you don't like what he's doing, then tough .

Internet posters of the world, you going to take that lying down? The coach doesn't care about your opinion on his defensive coordinator? LOL.

 

[Dooley]

The question itself was fair and should be asked.

Where the surprise is is the national media storm that G5 UConn has created once again. Just like pulling Logan Marchi's scholarship and the Kevin Ollie buyout, UConn sure does seem to find itself in the national news quite frequently. And people still continue to doubt that UConn is not a P5 caliber school/AD brand.

 

[huskymedic]

 

[Hornet22]

Quite frankly, I don’t see how the below is a post of an “idiot”. Is it unreasonable for a Freshman Defensive Lineman, who has seen significant playing time, by the 4th game of the season to go low for leverage at the goal line? What I saw was Travis Jones standing up and being turned around? I am not taking about perfecting technique, more a general direction. Quite frankly, it does make me worry but I did say the youth argument was “reasonable” but Chief’s was personally skeptical based on things like that.

Chief’s Post:
“Personally, my gut tells me it’s more than just youth. For reasons, discussed in various previous threads, I am skeptical on Crocker. But, it’s a reasonable argument and there will be improvement - the question is how much?
My concern is not only guys being in the wrong place or being too slow or weak. It’s an absence of good coached technique.”

So what you’re saying is the D Line coach taught him to stand up and get turned around in that situation? Or is it more plausible that he has been taught just like every other position player but because they’re inexperienced they haven’t developed the proper habits to do it right most of the time.
Is why most freshmen in college football make all of these mistakes off the field during their red shirt year IN PRACTICE.
Unfortunately we’re getting to see these mistakes live.
Remember, redshirt freshmen have the benefit of two summer camps, two fall camps, one spring camp and an entire season of scout work before they even hit the field.
Our true freshmen have only one summer and one fall
I’m shocked you can’t see that

 

[Dooley]

We canned Pasqualoni after 4 games and, eventually, circled the dogsleds to win our last 3 games that year. That team was staring at 0-12 if Pasqualoni (and GDL) had stayed for a full season.

 

[JMick]

I’m shocked you can’t see that

Are you really? It's clear that chief has a personal grudge

 

[Husky68]

HCRE2.0 is an older version of 1.0. Take the good with the bad. Don't expect him all of a sudden to determine quality of coaching/schemes/whoplayswhere has as much a chance of needing improvement as eye discipline.
Solid play by offense and improvement by defense is good for me. Win few more games this year is lot on talent, win one or no more games this year is lot on coaching.

 

[Hornet22]

Are you really? It's clear that chief has a personal grudge

Guess you’re right.
It’s just bizarre man
Of course the losing sucks but can’t we just take this season with the grain of salt that we should and be patient for next season and behind?
Rebuilds happen all the time- especially in baseball. Given where this program was left off, we should be thrilled that we have so many young guys getting valuable reps. You can tell as you watch that a lot of these guys have potential. Again, the owness is on the players and coaching staff to put in the work during the off season.
I’m enjoying this season right now but I’m certainly looking forward to next spring to see how much they’ve grown physically.
That will tell the tale for me
Their weight, speed and how much they’re lifting will say it all.
I have faith

 

[CTMike]

The question itself was fair and should be asked.

Where the surprise is is the national media storm that G5 UConn has created once again. Just like pulling Logan Marchi's scholarship and the Kevin Ollie buyout, UConn sure does seem to find itself in the national news quite frequently. And people still continue to doubt that UConn is not a P5 caliber school/AD brand.

Unfortunately everyone is laughing at our misfortunes.

 

[BlueandOG]

Edsall gets paid the big bucks to answer that question — he should have stood and delivered.

This! You back your guy by standing there in the spotlight and describing why Crocker is the best fit for the program right now. Leaving looks defensive.

 

[huskymedic]

Courant: Randy Edsall Passionately Defends Coordinator: 'If Things Aren't Going The Right Way, Then Fire My ---'

 

[noeynox]

Unfortunately everyone is laughing at our misfortunes.

A Randy created controversy. Answer however you want and don't storm off like a school girl and it's not news today.

 

[Dooley]

Unfortunately everyone is laughing at our misfortunes.

They are. But the point is still valid - I'm not sure if there is any other 1 win G5 school/AD that generates as much national headlines as UConn. When UConn wins again, and we will, those headlines and all of the laughing at us will take a different tone.

 

[noeynox]

Courant: Randy Edsall Passionately Defends Coordinator: 'If Things Aren't Going The Right Way, Then Fire My ---'

I wonder what gave it away that it is a big business? It couldn't be the 7 figure head coaching salaries?

Everyone knows we are young. Everyone also see we are like in record setting pace for worst defense ever. I can't imagine how hard it is to cover the team and try to find positives every week.