Putting UConn at the Rent would be a colossal error.
I don't have any real opinion and I don't really care but why?
Because you want public transport, you need utilities, local services, etc. It needs to be in Hartford for maximum access.
I'm pretty sure they have utilities in East Hartford. Not sure what you mean by local services. Next to nobody uses public transportation here.
East Hartford is easier to access than downtown.
Because you want public transport, you need utilities, local services, etc. It needs to be in Hartford for maximum access.
Oh, they've built out enough water, gas, etc. for a school?
In Hartford, you can walk... use buses. How does one get to the Rent? Drive? Already that's a problem for students.
Buddy I know you don't live here... But walk from where? Buses - nobody takes buses.
There are enough utilities for Pratt and Whitney but not college classrooms? Um ok.
Buddy I know you don't live here... But walk from where? Buses - nobody takes buses.
There are enough utilities for Pratt and Whitney but not college classrooms? Um ok.
Buddy I know you don't live here... But walk from where? Buses - nobody takes buses.
There are enough utilities for Pratt and Whitney but not college classrooms? Um ok.
This is the sort of coackamamie thinking that has screwed this country badly over the years.
I spend part of my lunch hour standing outside my office building on Main Street laughing at people running after buses. I can assure you that A LOT of people ride buses in Hartford.
Put it near Trinity, how the heck should I know? Build the dorms, businesses will come in. Build it downtown near the civic center. Don't make the 20th century mistake of building something somewhere where only cars have access to it. It's myopic. The waste of building outside the city center and the problems of urban abandonment end up costing taxpayers in the end, the inefficiency of it all. People like Ed Glaeser who is an economist with a focus on urban planning have been over this quite often. The concentration of higher education, worker training, and businesses in the urban core brings services, entertainment and more workers into the area. It's not a magic bullet but at least it doesn't create the same old problems again. The key is the ability to get around, where transport is quickest and easiest.If you actually were in Hartford I'd listen to you opine about local public transportation. If you took a night class in downtown Hartford I imagine you'd take the ghost bus after? I imagine they are ghosts because they are invisible.
Your utility argument may be your stupidest yet. There are enough utilities for Pratt, Cabelas and to run a 40k capacity stadium, but not enough for college classrooms?
Please answer the question about who could walk to a campus in downtown Hartford. Where exactly would those people live?
Put it near Trinity, how the heck should I know? Build the dorms, businesses will come in. Build it downtown near the civic center. Don't make the 20th century mistake of building something somewhere where only cars have access to it. It's myopic. The waste of building outside the city center and the problems of urban abandonment end up costing taxpayers in the end, the inefficiency of it all. People like Ed Glaeser who is an economist with a focus on urban planning have been over this quite often. The concentration of higher education, worker training, and businesses in the urban core brings services, entertainment and more workers into the area. It's not a magic bullet but at least it doesn't create the same old problems again. The key is the ability to get around, where transport is quickest and easiest.
Why do we want to put the branch next to the Rent again?
Granted, putting a community college next to a football stadium worked for Louisville, but it doesn't seem to make a great deal of sense to a state determined to help Hartford.
Whaler ... you are incredibly "myopic" ... to use upstater's phrase and really a curmodgeon.
Look ... in a short span ... both Providence and now New Haven have really climbed up from a virtual ghost town to something vibrant. There is no denying that. I have friends who have been instrumental in both Providence and New Haven ... that are now working on a project in Hartford for 100s of acres. Maybe Albany or Worcester are next; there's hope for all these urban centers. BTW ... in some REAL University cities where University Students per Capita are high, kids use the Bus. Why? Because the Municipal Authority makes it free for them. The Bus gets used extensively. So ... your attitude about ignoring people who take the Bus to your crummy interview will miss many many qualified candidates> Where are these cities? They are 3-5 hours from where you sit today.
Utilities? I'm not willing, even though I have a background in development financing, to make any guesses as to the Rentschler site has any infrastructure applicable to what is being discussed. That would take a few weeks.
How about this Whaler. Why would putting the UConn campus downtown be a bad thing? They already have some student housing on Temple St that I believe is for UHart so I'm not sure how hard it would be to build more in one of the many vacant buildings in Hartford. I never understand the logic of people who constantly want to bash Hartford and anything that city may try to do to revitalize itself. If the university wanted to move to Rentschler the costs would be highet (I'm guessing here) than fixing up the current WH branch.
There's a larger goal here for the state and UConn in moving the campus. They're looking at New Haven and seeing the value of having college students in a city and how it can revitalize a city. Yes, the branch campus is not Yale nor does it have on campus living but do you truly believe that can't change if the campus is downtown? Moving it to East Hartford solves absolutely nothing and requires the building of an entire campus. Plus no one would live there. Moving to Hartford requires renovating a preexisting structure and possibly revitalizing a once great city.
I lived in Hartford for three years and WH for 4 before meeting my wife and moving into her place in Southington so you can call me a valid observer...
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Pop Quiz for Mr. Know-it-all:
What is the name & location of a $200m/1million SF Masterplan development that will soon have a Development Agreement & developed in New Haven? This summers priority for the outgoing mayor.
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Where is there an intense competition by like groups in Hartford?
As for the busing nostrum: I teach lots of Accounting & Finance students. They had to have a 3.25 to get in my class. Many are Metro NY or Foreign ... And they take the Bus everyday.
Just out of curiosity, where would you put it and why? I understand you're just proving upstater's argument to be faulty but I'm curious. Also, I'd say Goodwin college is bursting due to it's nursing program and the perceived belief that that field is going to blow up with jobs moreso than anything ekse but I see your point.I've never said Hartford was a bad place for it. Upstater said East Hartford would be a disaster and I asked why. Buses seem to be his answer. Well, Goodwin College's campus is exploding - so I guess maybe buses aren't the actual driving force to something being successful.