Seton Hall Post Game Thread

[Punkbo]

Most down I’ve felt about the trajectory of the program in a long time.

Really? The game tonight was extremely frustrating. One of the most improbable losses we’ve had to endure in a long time. But the trajectory of the program remains very positive. We have another strong incoming class for next year. And despite some of the craziness we’ve watched over the last few games, there’s still a lot of talent on this squad. Hopefully, Castle can fix some of the guard issues.

 

[Conndog]

We pass too much some times. If you are open for an 8 foot floater: take it.

Newton had that opportunity late and avoided shooting & turned it over with poor pass- I was screaming at the TV

 

[NickDanger]

It also helps to be able to shoot and make point blank layups. Our non-shooting guards are too busy forcing passes. Our bigs can't make gimmies. How many field goals did we have in the second half???? Not many for sure.

8 points in the last 9 minutes

 

[NickDanger]

Maybe the Big East is just really, really good? Ya think?

No i don’t

 

[shizzle787]

Really? The game tonight was extremely frustrating. One of the most improbable losses we’ve had to endure in a long time. But the trajectory of the program remains very positive. We have another strong incoming class for next year. And despite some of the craziness we’ve watched over the last few games, there’s still a lot of talent on this squad. Hopefully, Castle can fix some of the guard issues.

There's nothing positive about losing in the tournament in the first round two years in a row.

 

[SugarHillGang]

The one positive takeaway from tonight is that we only stepped on the end line once when setting up to take a three.

 

[storrsroars]

Zero of adjustments

After Newton sunk a jumper to make it 62-57 at 6:54, here's what followed:
Hawk missed 3
Sanogo missed jumper
Karaban missed 3
Hawk missed 3
Sanogo missed a dunk
Karaban missed 3

Meantime Newton got to line twice and made all 4 FTs.

Three possessions ended with TOs (Jax, Netwon, DC).

Make of that what you will, but whatever conclusion you come to, it would be hard to pin the collapse on Newton.

 

[UCann]

We thought we were good. We were not.

 

[UConnSwag11]

After Newton sunk a jumper to make it 62-57 at 6:54, here's what followed:
Hawk missed 3
Sanogo missed jumper
Karaban missed 3
Hawk missed 3
Sanogo missed a dunk
Karaban missed 3

Meantime Newton got to line twice and made all 4 FTs.

Three possessions ended with TOs (Jax, Netwon, DC).

Make of that what you will, but whatever conclusion you come to, it would be hard to pin the collapse on Newton.

He played better when he wasn’t force feeding the ball to Sanogo or Sanogo wasn’t coming out to the three point line to get the ball

 

[HuskyFich]

He played better when he wasn’t force feeding the ball to Sanogo or Sanogo wasn’t coming out to the three point line to get the ball

He played his best game in a while. But he did force feed a lot, and can’t move the ball up the court with much speed unless he has an open lane.

And then he got called for that ridiculous charge when he did drive.

Overall, very happy with him tonight even though his TOS were boneheaded

 

[UConnSwag11]

He played his best game in a while. But he did force feed a lot, and can’t move the ball up the court with much speed unless he has an open lane.

And then he got called for that ridiculous charge when he did drive.

Overall, very happy with him tonight even though his TOS were boneheaded

That charge call was horrendous

 

[navery12]

Who had Sanogo in the game?

Luke Murray and Tom Moore. Dan Hurley was not coaching tonight

 

[HuskyFich]

That charge call was horrendous

Par for the course.

Feel like I’ve been on a African safari the last few weeks.

Zebras everywhere.

 

[UConnSwag11]

Par for the course.

Feel like I’ve been on a African safari the last few weeks.

Zebras everywhere.

And Donny kissing their butts

 

[Glastonhusky]

Now this I can get behind. The only decent point guard was an undersized transfer.

BTW, where are all the people that were convinced that Newton was better than Cole? With Cole, we win at least two of the five, probably more.

With Cole we'd be undefeated, but he wasn't staying for a 6th year of college.

 

[storrsroars]

He played his best game in a while. But he did force feed a lot, and can’t move the ball up the court with much speed unless he has an open lane.

And then he got called for that ridiculous charge when he did drive.

Overall, very happy with him tonight even though his TOS were boneheaded

A fair and balanced critique.

 

[Hans Sprungfeld]

Badly constructed team, with no Alphas anywhere.
Dre is becoming a liability. We badly need leadership. Speechless.

Not sure about "badly constructed team," but everything else resonates.

3 years ago in January, there was no leader. Further, the team looked like it had no smart or composed players.

I suggested Whaley was the only possibility, simply because he wasn't doing stupid stuff and he cared. He assumed the role because nobody else would. And thus began his most unlikely rise.

Then Vital played better and with greater control, and Bouknight developed into a second semester freshman, and we all felt pretty hopeful about post-season possibilities before COVID shut things down.

We're in that spot now.

NONE of 'the big 3' are playing with leadership, smarts, composure, maturity. They all have skills.

Diarra & Alleyne, in that order, aren't up for serious consideration, but Hassan has improved his contribution is some valuable areas.

Alex has survived his Big East baptism by fire, but needs to get stronger. Now Donovan is in the midst of his painful growth spurt. They're both coming through, but they are maturing freshman, and they aren't going to be the leaders.

Tonight, Newton actually showed some improvement over recent games, but he is still much more timid than we want & need. He lost out on the offensive foul call, and he got fouled later in the game as he drove and was too slow to get to tge basket, but he actually got a solid pass off to Alex whose quite decent 3-ball shot did not go in. It might have won the game.

A bit earlier, Joey had teamed with Donovan for 2, and then sunk his own 3, but then the starters came back in and couldn't get it done.

The job is open. Somebody has to claim it.

The coaching staff isn't going to fill the hole. Things are currently quite weird and, of course, dismaying.

The spate of one-word descriptions that kicked off this thread is very telling.

Things could get better, but the necessary leadership cannot come from sloppiness, lack of discipline, or low energy. And it can't be a hot potato.
Who wants it?
Anybody?
Please.

 

[HuskyFich]

And Donny kissing their butts

BRO! He said the BE refs are “second to none”

Almost makes me wonder if he’s betting game spreads. Like how delusional can you possibly be.

 

[huskyfan224]

Can’t believe that’s how mentally weak this team is. This skid has been atrocious, but still felt like it was just a funk and it happens in basketball. There’s a lot of ball left and this isn’t the ncaa tournament.

Saying stuff like this to the press isn’t what contenders do. Sack up and get tougher

 

[gampelcrazies]

BRO! He said the BE refs are “second to none”

Almost makes me wonder if he’s betting game spreads. Like how delusional can you possibly be.

Brando 1000000% had money on Seton Hall. He sounded so depressed when UConn went up double digits.

 

[Hans Sprungfeld]

Keep it up.
Nice job with the triple-rhyme haiku today too.

 

[Nebraskan18]

Between the missed layup and this effort… start Clingan

 

[Hans Sprungfeld]

Is their practice court 10 feet wider?!

They need Rodney to come in a speak to the team again, with a slightly different focus.

 

[Kolumbo]

We have a collection of unaffiliated parts on the court.

We do not have a point guard. We do not really have a true shooting guard - Hawkins is something close, but he’s something of a catch and shoot type with very little else to offer. I don’t know what Newton, Diarra, Alleyne and California are at this point aside from just generally being misfit portal part rentals.

Karaban and Clingan are freshmen. Sanogo doesn’t know if he wants to be a power forward or a wing. Jackson is everything and nothing.

At this point, I’d just bench Karaban and play Clingan. Let Newton run the point - let Jackson just do whatever he can figure out to do. Remind Sanogo that the ball will not explode if he passes it back out. Stop telling Hawkins he’s Ray Allen when he’s not.

Karaban is the only remotely consistent piece to this bunch of misfits.

 

[AntG168]

Bill Clingan is pretty much in spaces saying bench the starters lmao. Nothing to see here