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Looks like they lost 2 years in a row to cheating teams huh? Hope the league comes down hard on this. No place for and a huge advantage.
Exactly. I think a few disgruntled players who weren’t retained blew the whistle.I don't know why anyone even cares about this Red Sox story. It's so small and meaningless and every team does it
I don't know why anyone even cares about this Red Sox story. It's so small and meaningless and every team does it
Yes I've played baseball my entire life and still play now. I'm not a Red Sox fan, I'm a Mets fan so couldn't care less about them. I have zero problem with sign stealing, if it's that easy to figure out the signs come up with better ones. It's not a coincidence that every team has a video room immediately when you exit the dugoutSmall and meaningless? Why because it’s the Sox? Explain your wisdom on this one lol. Did you ever play the game? Huge advantage and I see 2 teams getting caught not everyone. And the 2 teams that did get caught have one thing in common - Alex Cora.
Dumb comment.
Yes I've played baseball my entire life and still play now. I'm not a Red Sox fan, I'm a Mets fan so couldn't care less about them. I have zero problem with sign stealing, if it's that easy to figure out the signs come up with better ones. It's not a coincidence that every team has a video room immediately when you exit the dugout
Yes I understand it's with technology and have zero issue with itI’m good with stealing signs like teams have been doing forever. This isn’t that it’s with technology do you get that at all?
It's a big deal, they were already fined and warned by the league twice about it and they continued the practice. There is a direct line from Cora as Stros bench coach and Red Sox manager. Penalties will be severe.I don't know why anyone even cares about this Red Sox story. It's so small and meaningless and every team does it
Yeah the Astros having a private live feed directly on the catcher and relaying signs to the dugout and batter as they happen is bad. I don't have any issue with someone watching the TV feed and picking up tendencies/signs which is what the Red Sox were doingIt's a big deal, they were already fined and warned by the league twice about it and they continued the practice. There is a direct line from Cora as Stros bench coach and Red Sox manager. Penalties will be severe.
It doesn't sound as bad as the Stros but we don't know the scope. Hinch and all the Stros personnel should be banned from the game as far as I'm concerned.
And I don't have a problem with players taking steroids but it's considered cheating and the penalties are stiff, same with this.Yeah the Astros having a private live feed directly on the catcher and relaying signs to the dugout and batter as they happen is bad. I don't have any issue with someone watching the TV feed and picking up tendencies/signs which is what the Red Sox were doing
This is some amazing obfuscation. Do some reading and you'll know that lumping the Yankees in with the Stros and Red Sox makes you look like a dummy.Within the article is the little nugget that multiple sources have identified the Yankees as using video rooms to steal signs as far back as 2015. They may have been the pioneers of this.
Also within the article is another nugget that MLB was manning the video rooms with staff during the 2018 postseason, so while Boston was pulverizing NY, Houston and Los Angeles, this wasn't going on.
I simply provided two pieces of information that a lot of NY fans may not be aware of based on the headline and the fact you need a subscription to read the athletic article.
The Yankees are found to be using their video replay rooms to decipher signs by 2015; the Sox 2016; and all three teams by 2017.
It's possible the penalties will end up being stuff, but I've felt all along that MLB's full investigation will turn up that every team does it and the Astros (and now Red Sox) get off light. Steroids is an apt comparison though because for years MLB knowingly allowed this to happen until it became convenient to enforceAnd I don't have a problem with players taking steroids but it's considered cheating and the penalties are stiff, same with this.
Eyeglasses and binoculars are technologyI’m good with stealing signs like teams have been doing forever. This isn’t that it’s with technology do you get that at all?
Small and meaningless? Why because it’s the Sox? Explain your wisdom on this one lol. Did you ever play the game? Huge advantage and I see 2 teams getting caught not everyone. And the 2 teams that did get caught have one thing in common - Alex Cora.
Dumb comment.
I don't know why anyone even cares about this Red Sox story. It's so small and meaningless and every team does it
Well I'm not a Sox fan so that doesn't applyThat's the same excuse Sox fans had when Manny and Ortiz got caught doing steroids. And when Brady got caught deflating footballs. And when the Pats got caught taping practices.
First an anonymous former yankee was quoted in the story talking about what the yankees were doing with signs and video stuff before the Sox or Astros were even linked to doing this. I only bring it up because a lot of NY fans didn't read the full article and have cried for the last 3 months that they were robbed of a title because the Astros are bad and the Yankees never cheat and are saints and make their player shave while other teams have monsters with ghastly beards.When the Yanks who left come out and it’s in the news I will eat crow. Until then the Astros and Sox cheated their way to WS titles and Cora is a piece of both titles. As far as not being able to cheat during the playoffs how did they get there at all? By playing 81 games knowing what pitches were coming which makes the game so much easier and winning so much easier. Until they come out with proof on anyone else let’s just say it’s not a big deal because it’s the Sox LOL.......major scandal taken Cora and these teams down hard.
When the Yanks who left come out and it’s in the news I will eat crow. Until then the Astros and Sox cheated their way to WS titles and Cora is a piece of both titles. As far as not being able to cheat during the playoffs how did they get there at all? By playing 81 games knowing what pitches were coming which makes the game so much easier and winning so much easier. Until they come out with proof on anyone else let’s just say it’s not a big deal because it’s the Sox LOL.......major scandal taken Cora and these teams down hard.
That's the same excuse Sox fans had when Manny and Ortiz got caught doing steroids. And when Brady got caught deflating footballs. And when the Pats got caught taping practices.