One of the worst timeouts I've seen

[Hi-Low]

Disagree. He had to make sure they knew the plans. Too many guys losing focus.

Not really much to to know....everyone cover your man, don't foul shooter, if Memphis makes a half-court 3 then so be it. Also the idea fouling before they can shoot is moronic in full-court situations with 2 seconds left. The timeout allowed Memphis to set up the pass they wanted and almost blew the game.

 

[Gurleyman]

I'm not saying Memphis is bright enough to handle it without a timeout, but teams should be drilled on it. Here's what you do:

1) As Hamilton steps to the line for second, you call out your home run play.
2( when the free throw goes in, nobody touches the ball - that way the five count doesn't start. (If you are especially savvy - one of the guys can accidentally kick the ball while turning up court, causing a delay while the officials retrieve it. But you might need to watch the NESCAC to see that).
3) While the inbounds passer takes his sweet time getting the ball off the ground, the other four guys go to their spots.
4) The inbounds guy finally picks up the ball, runs a little on the baseline (so as not to hit the back of the backboard), and the home run pass is thrown.

This is one of many scenarios teams should in theory be ready for.

 

[whaler11]

I'm not saying Memphis is bright enough to handle it without a timeout, but teams should be drilled on it. Here's what you do:

1) As Hamilton steps to the line for second, you call out your home run play.
2( when the free throw goes in, nobody touches the ball - that way the five count doesn't start. (If you are especially savvy - one of the guys can accidentally kick the ball while turning up court, causing a delay while the officials retrieve it. But you might need to watch the NESCAC to see that).
3) While the inbounds passer takes his sweet time getting the ball off the ground, the other four guys go to their spots.
4) The inbounds guy finally picks up the ball, runs a little on the baseline (so as not to hit the back of the backboard), and the home run pass is thrown.

This is one of many scenarios teams should in theory be ready for.

So you made a case for calling the timeout before the second free throw.

 

[HuskiesAllDay]

Did Ollie sub anybody in? Or were the same 5 guys on the floor?

Not that I think it would justify the timeout but would at least point to some reason since we didn't foul. Although it's not like we have a defensive specialist so I don't know who exactly ollie would be dying to get in .

But to call timeout when they have none. AND not guard the inbounds. AND not foul (with ample opportunity). AND not sub.

That is just absurdly bad coaching.

 

[uconnfan68]

Not really much to to know....everyone cover your man, don't foul shooter, if Memphis makes a half-court 3 then so be it. Also the idea fouling before they can shoot is moronic in full-court situations with 2 seconds left. The timeout allowed Memphis to set up the pass they wanted and almost blew the game.

And yet 2 guys almost fouled him. We got lucky.

 

[Gurleyman]

So you made a case for calling the timeout before the second free throw.

Yeah - you could call it there. No need to worry about icing your shooter. Actually you are probably better off by the percentages having Hamilton miss. It just opens up the possibility of losing on a Gordon Hayward shot. Hamilton also has to hit the rim. If he makes it, at least you can do no worse than tie.

That's also why I wouldn't agree with the deliberate foul in this instance. You open up the chance of losing in a scenario where the tying 3 is plenty difficult as it is. Foul on purpose - they make first, miss second, rebound goes o/b to Memphis,then the inevitable 3 on inbounds pass down into that far left corner again.

 

[Tenspro2002]

KO's TO wasn't egregiously wrong, but I'm pretty sure it was wrong.

Yes, a timeout helps us improve our defensive setup. But it surely helps Memphis improve their offensive setup by a lot more.

Calling timeout in that situation is a net negative, even if it helps the coach feel more comfortable that his players know what they're doing.

 

[UCweCONN]

I'd like to see a poll created so we can vote for whether the timeout was a (1) Smart call (2) Poor Call (3) Very Bad Call (4) God-awful call. I vote for 4.

 

[Montaleno]

The timeout was called because Ollie stated, that the plan was to foul as soon as ball was caught. But, Memphis caught the ball near 3pt circle and that Nolan, wisely on his own, decided NOT to foul.

 

[tcf15]

Here's Miller and KO discussing it - looks like it may have been Miller who originally suggested calling a timeout.

 

[CTBasketball]

Fouling and calling a TO in that situation could have ended poorly. Thankful it did not - it was the wrong move but we got lucky.

 

[imno1]

Whaler11 I admire how sure you believe You are right but the timeout was called ,they got off a poor contested 3 and we won. We don't know what would have happened without the TO. So I don't think it was a terrible time out. I'm no coach but I would have put someone on the inbounder to make his job harder.

 

[Goat]

2.3 seconds, Memphis has starters fouled out who probably were inthe scenario practiced for last second situations, if they tie the players lost to fouls problem favors UConn in OT, the kids on the floor should know not to foul on a 3 point shot, so why call time out? All I got is maybe they needed to be calmed down because they were emotionally vulnerable to "here we lose again" thoughts which Ollie is not going to describe in post game or just maybe there is a player or two who you want to foul if they catch the ball because that player is too good from 3, can't hit 3 free throws or some combination of the above.
Anyway, if Ollie is making some mistakes, I'll live with it. He is recruiting well and there is no other young coach I'd want. From the post-Calhoun wish list, Stevens and Hoiberg are in the NBA and the one left in college, Smart, lost to Ollie this season. I'm OK with KO.

 

[Chin Diesel]

I'm not going through this whole thread but it is very common for coaches to call a timeout to make sure they get their defense set up right.

Ollie used the TO to instruct his players to foul and not let Memphis get off a 3-point shot.


http://www.uconnhuskies.com/sports/m-baskbl/recaps/010916aae.html

“We wanted to foul on the catch. He caught it right at the three and Phil didn’t think he could foul right there but any dribble he was gonna get he was gonna foul with 2.3 seconds. It was a hell of a throw next time we want to get a foul. Glad he missed it.”

 

[whaler11]

Whaler11 I admire how sure you believe You are right but the timeout was called ,they got off a poor contested 3 and we won. We don't know what would have happened without the TO. So I don't think it was a terrible time out. I'm no coach but I would have put someone on the inbounder to make his job harder.

It's probability and good decision making processes.

The fact Memphis didn't score doesn't excuse the decision.

 

[Chief00]

To me the problem is not covering the inbounds pass

 

[Henry]

Sorry if it has been said but why not guard the inbound with under 3 seconds left? Calhoun constantly would not guard the inbound and many times it would bite us in the a**.

 

[breezy]

I avoided the site for a few days afterwards, but I assume it was beaten to death on here that we should have fouled Temple, right?

 

[sledog]

Anyone have an url for a vid of that last play?

 

[4in16]

I avoided the site for a few days afterwards, but I assume it was beaten to death on here that we should have fouled Temple, right?

Yeah, just a bit.