Key tweets, and it's all gone to Hell.

[JeepCSC]

Actually, "metro area" is a misleading term because the size widely varies from city to city. The better comparison is taking a consistent distances for every city so that you you are comparing apples to apples regardless of whether an area choose to roll all the surrounding communities into the city or whether, as in the case of Hartford, West Hartford etc. they chose to maintain separate municipalities.

Distances are different though depending on where you are in the country. There’s more land in the Midwest than the Norheast, ergo cities are built differently.

 

[AllHusky]

Actually, "metro area" is a misleading term because the size widely varies from city to city. The better comparison is taking a consistent distances for every city so that you you are comparing apples to apples regardless of whether an area choose to roll all the surrounding communities into the city or whether, as in the case of Hartford, West Hartford etc. they chose to maintain separate municipalities.

As opposed to Willimantic, So Windham, North Windham and Windham Center, all under Windham, part of the Greater Willimantic Metropolitan region

 

[CL82]

Distances are different though depending on where you are in the country. There’s more land in the Midwest than the Norheast, ergo cities are built differently.

No, development may be different, but distances are always the same since they are all defined terms. That's why it makes sense to use defined distances as a standard. That allows you to make apples to apples comparisons.

 

[JeepCSC]

No, development may be different, but distances are always the same since they are all defined terms. That's why it makes sense to use defined distances as a standard. That allows you to make apples to apples comparisons.

Different areas utilize distances in different ways for a variety of reasons. Metro areas are limiting and distortable, but so are straight up drawing circles around cities.

 

[CL82]

Different areas utilize distances in different ways for a variety of reasons. Metro areas are limiting and distortable, but so are straight up drawing circles around cities.

How is a set distance "distortable"? It is exactly the opposite. It is a constant. When you were doing a comparison you want to limit variables so that you can measure change in the specific variable your testing. In this case that variable would be location.

 

[JeepCSC]

How is a set distance "distortable"? It is exactly the opposite. It is a constant. When you were doing a comparison you want to limit variables so that you can measure change in the specific variable your testing. In this case that variable would be location.

Because not all places are built the same. A 30-mile circle around Hartford would get into Springfield and the outskirts of the NYC and Boston CSAs. The same circle around Raleigh wouldn't get you to Hillsborough, Sanford, or Dunn (all which send a steady amount of commuters to Raleigh). Circles tells you how many live within an arbitrary distance from a center point, but not really touching how those people interact with the center point. MSAs have their own issues (see Raleigh being split from Durham). Both are flawed.

 

[CL82]

Because not all places are built the same. A 30-mile circle around Hartford would get into Springfield and the outskirts of the NYC and Boston CSAs. The same circle around Raleigh wouldn't get you to Hillsborough, Sanford, or Dunn (all which send a steady amount of commuters to Raleigh). Circles tells you how many live within an arbitrary distance from a center point, but not really touching how those people interact with the center point. MSAs have their own issues (see Raleigh being split from Durham). Both are flawed.

I have no doubt that both are imperfect measurements, but the question is which is "less than perfect." It really depends on what you're measuring, right? If you were looking at, say potential resident tax ramifications, then, yes, you would absolutely look at municipal boundaries . But generally the most telling approximation is the number of people within a certain distance to the municipality. That is particularly applicable to athletic teams since the question really is how many people can reasonably attend the game or are likely to support a team.

 

[JeepCSC]

I have no doubt that both are imperfect measurements, but the question is which is "less than perfect." It really depends on what you're measuring, right? If you were looking at, say potential resident tax ramifications, then, yes, you would absolutely look at municipal boundaries . But generally the most telling approximation is the number of people within a certain distance to the municipality. That is particularly applicable to athletic teams since the question really is how many people can reasonably attend the game or are likely to support a team.

It gets even more complicated when you start discussing sports teams. The Whalers moved in part because of they were losing the turf war in a crowded marketplace, regardless of the number of people inside their circle. Have to look at a whole host of data and then figure out how best to interpret it.

 

[CL82]

It gets even more complicated when you start discussing sports teams. The Whalers moved in part because of they were losing the turf war in a crowded marketplace, regardless of the number of people inside their circle. Have to look at a whole host of data and then figure out how best to interpret it.

Agree. You absolutely have to understand the competitions for viewers/fans within a given marketplace. But first, you have to define what that given marketplace is. That is another very distinct advantage UConn has since, for all practical purposes it really doesn't compete with other college teams for fans.

I feel like we are drifting a little bit though.

 

[UConnJim]

Fun fact. The Houston MSA is almost double the land size of the state of Connecticut. As for the city itself, if Hartford was the same land area, UConn in Storrs and the med school in Farmington would be part of Hartford.

 

[billybud]

Court rules athletes can transfer twice and play....

College athletes who transfer twice can play, for now, after a judge sets aside NCAA transfer rule

College athletes who were denied the chance to play immediately after transferring a second time can return to competition, for now.

apnews.com

 

[billybud]

This is a preliminary ruling, but the standard for this injunction is that the court believes the plaintiffs (players) have a "likely chance" of winning. Not just some chance. The court has to pre-determine the issue a bit to issue this. It's a big deal.

Full free agency has arrived.

 

[UConnTrumbull]

This is a preliminary ruling, but the standard for this injunction is that the court believes the plaintiffs (players) have a "likely chance" of winning. Not just some chance. The court has to pre-determine the issue a bit to issue this. It's a big deal.

Full free agency has arrived.

About to see 4 school-4 year players…great. /s

 

[AZHuskiePop]

Hartford (18 sq. miles) is also less than half the size of Disney World (40 sq. miles), Tallahassee (95 sq. miles) is more than 5x bigger by land area

Ten largest cities in area on the US

1. Sitka, AK (2,870.3 mi2)
2. Juneau, AK (2,701.9 mi2)
3. Wrangell, AK (2,542.5 mi2)
4. Anchorage, AK (1,704.7 mi2)
5. Jacksonville, FL (747 mi2)
6. Anaconda, MT (735.6 mi2)
7. Butte, MT (716.2 mi2)
8. Oklahoma City, OK (607 mi2)
9. Houston, TX (599.6 mi2)
10. Phoenix, AZ (516.7 mi2

 

[Dream Jobbed 2.0]

Could you imagine if Hartford stretched from Farmington to Manchester?

 

[Storrs South]

Says OSU and WSU want to rebuild the PAC12

 

[WrenchFan69]

Says OSU and WSU want to rebuild the PAC12

Always figured the PAC moniker would stick around with OSU and WSU. I'm assuming the only question is will it be a full merger with the MWC or will they pick and choose the top pieces from the MWC, WCC, AAC, others?

There's a chance to trim some fat off the bottom of the MWC if they care to. A new PAC that leaves out Air Force would make the American an even more realistic and enjoyable destination for UConn football

 

[XStorrsion]

Isn't there a $16.5 exit fee in the MW? Not sure multiple schools are paying that exit fee just to trim the fat and play with OSU/WSU.

 

[shizzle787]

Isn't there a $16.5 exit fee in the MW? Not sure multiple schools are paying that exit fee just to trim the fat and play with OSU/WSU.

It could be 34 million depending on when they leave. At the end of the day, the Pac-2 and MW will likely merge under the Pac-12 banner.

 

[Bongo Fury]

Maybe they can get apple or Amazon to give them money

 

[CL82]

It could be 34 million depending on when they leave. At the end of the day, the Pac-2 and MW will likely merge under the Pac-12 banner.

It will be interesting to see if that happens. If I'm the mountain west, I am looking to get a piece of the exit feed treasure chest that WSU and OSU are sitting on. I don't see that they have many other choices.

WSU and OSU have to think about whether that merger is more valuable to them than keeping the exit fees, which are considerable.

 

[LoyalFanCT]

No mention of realignment in UConn's 10-year strategic plan, or even winning football teams

UConn Adopts Ambitious 10-Year Strategic Plan - UConn Today

Building on the pillars of promoting holistic student success, expanding the University’s research impact, and helping Connecticut thrive

today.uconn.edu

 

[How Sway?!]

No mention of realignment in UConn's 10-year strategic plan, or even winning football teams

UConn Adopts Ambitious 10-Year Strategic Plan - UConn Today

Building on the pillars of promoting holistic student success, expanding the University’s research impact, and helping Connecticut thrive

today.uconn.edu

All due respect loyal, when you're trying to achieve a billion dollar endowment and $500 million on yearly research money, winning football games and realignment do not even register as a priority.

 

[LoyalFanCT]

All due respect loyal, when you're trying to achieve a billion dollar endowment and $500 million on yearly research money, winning football games and realignment do not even register as a priority.

Respectfully, being in something like the B10 is how many of its members achieved a large endowment -- at least in part. Also, the B10 has a research consortium for its members, called the Big Ten Academic Alliance. Most of the major public research universities have decent football programs, too. If UConn's football program gets into winning seasons and UConn makes it into a power conference, more money will be donated to the university, To get into the B10, UConn will first need to boost research levels, so the two do relate.

 

[Stinger92860]

To get into the B10, UConn will first need to boost research levels,

And compromising pictures of the B1G commish and every B1G President. Still, may not be enough.