How do you not put Clingan in on that last possession?

[freshler40]

Two horrible coaching calls in the last minute. Not putting Clingan in for the last possession, and not going two for one up a point with 50 seconds left.

They had a solid 10 seconds to find a decent shot and go 2 for 1. Even if they missed and Seton Hall scored they would have had at least 10 seconds to take the last shot for the win. Instead they purposely pounded the ball until there were 11 seconds left on the shot clock and called a timeout. Seton Hall was only going to get one opportunity, either way. We could have had two chances. For some reason the coaches didn’t think that was a good idea. Absolutely baffling.

Good coaching thoughts here. Were missing a Blaney type, a cool hand Luke.

 

[HuskyHawk]

Two horrible coaching calls in the last minute. Not putting Clingan in for the last possession, and not going two for one up a point with 50 seconds left.

They had a solid 10 seconds to find a decent shot and go 2 for 1. Even if they missed and Seton Hall scored they would have had at least 10 seconds to take the last shot for the win. Instead they purposely pounded the ball until there were 11 seconds left on the shot clock and called a timeout. Seton Hall was only going to get one opportunity, either way. We could have had two chances. For some reason the coaches didn’t think that was a good idea. Absolutely baffling.

It wasn't horrible. The problem was the 4 outside guys (not Sanogo) not boxing out. Problem all game. Clingan wouldn't have mattered.

They went for two with Newton driving, knowing he could draw a foul. When Seton Hall literally grabbed his right wrist and pulled it, with no call, he smartly passed to the wide open Karaban. It was a great shot in that situation.

 

[Husky pride]

We'd rather play perimeter guys who can't shoot and pound the ball into the floor instead two of our best players at the same time because "they play the same position". It's comical. We'd be killing it on the boards and in the paint, but whatever.... "today's" game argument...

This couldn’t be more true! Adama and Donovan would compliment each other in multiple ways on both the defense and offense ends. True both on the floor against certain opponents might not work, but isn’t that where scouting and coaching comes-in? We have talented “twin tours”. We talk about shuffling the lineup…isn’t this combination worth serious consideration???

 

[jake14mw]

I was yelling the same thing at the time. Seemed like an obvious decision to make. Not sure what he was thinking not putting Clingan in.

 

[walski]

Great question. Clingan played like crap for the bulk of the game, but this is legit the best use of him. Its like they are scared to sit Adama for some reason.

His +/- was +11, sanogo was like -12, rest of team was zero. He turns the tide always.

 

[CONN78SEJ]

I was yelling the same thing at the time. Seemed like an obvious decision to make. Not sure what he was thinking not putting Clingan in.

He wasn’t thinking at all, was just following Hurley’s text messages.

 

[CONN78SEJ]

This couldn’t be more true! Adama and Donovan would compliment each other in multiple ways on both the defense and offense ends. True both on the floor against certain opponents might not work, but isn’t that where scouting and coaching comes-in? We have talented “twin tours”. We talk about shuffling the lineup…isn’t this combination worth serious consideration???

We could beat any team in the Big East just by starting and/or showing a lot of Clingan, Sanogo, Jackson, Hawkins and Karaban, with Newton first off the bench. I also think Newton plays better coming off the bench.

 

[Kolumbo]

Yes, Clingan could have been in but I don't know if it would have made a difference.

There was chaos. Karaban was stuck guarding two players. The shooter #21 and the rebounder #13. Alex was on #13, left to run out at #21, and then #13 was already well in position to get the rebound with the inside position on AJax before the shot was even taken.

95% of the time that miss bounces hi and far. Mugsy Bogues would have had a better chance at rebounding that miss because it went straight down.



#21 is also the guy that blew by AJax for the DePriest-Esque monster dunk which pretty much dictated the outcome. 14:36 of the above video. Sanogo should have taken the charge but he bailed.

And the Sanogo missed bunny. I think the announcer said he thought AS was fouled or blocked resulting in the awful shot.

 

[CONN78SEJ]

Yes, Clingan could have been in but I don't know if it would have made a difference.

There was chaos. Karaban was stuck guarding two players. The shooter #21 and the rebounder #13. Alex was on #13, left to run out at #21, and then #13 was already well in position to get the rebound with the inside position on AJax before the shot was even taken.

95% of the time that miss bounces hi and far. Mugsy Bogues would have had a better chance at rebounding that miss because it went straight down.



#21 is also the guy that blew by AJax for the DePriest-Esque monster dunk which pretty much dictated the outcome. 14:36 of the above video. Sanogo should have taken the charge but he bailed.

And the Sanogo missed bunny. I think the announcer said he thought AS was fouled or blocked resulting in the awful shot.

Which game? Marquette, St. John’s, Seton Hall?

 

[SaeHusky]

Similar to the last couple of games - Clingan was +9 and Sanogo was -10 !! It's tough to be a -10 in a game that we led until the final 2 seconds. It's very clear going forward that either Clingan has to start over Sanogo or we have to try to go double big for some of the game. Which would force us to play Zone which I think would help us since we have a lot of length and can't stop dribble penetration. On another note I think it would a good idea for whoever is bringing the ball up after a made hoop to not walk it up since we usually use like 7 seconds of the shot clock just to get the ball across half court and if you add that with how long Sanogo holds the ball when he catches it their isn't much time left to do anything else.

 

[UConnSwag11]

Maybe when Johnson gets back we will see the big 2 more.

What does Johnson bring? What has Johnson proven he can do?

 

[UConnSwag11]

Felt like when he got cooled off in the Marquette game

 

[3rdbass]

What does Johnson bring? What has Johnson proven he can do?

I'm just saying that is maybe why the staff is hesitant to play both at same time. No one to back them up. Obviously coach thought enough of Johnson at beginning of year to start over Karaban. Well he should be able to help on drives compared to what karaban does at the 4.

 

[EnochRoot]

Yes, Clingan could have been in but I don't know if it would have made a difference.

There was chaos. Karaban was stuck guarding two players. The shooter #21 and the rebounder #13. Alex was on #13, left to run out at #21, and then #13 was already well in position to get the rebound with the inside position on AJax before the shot was even taken.

95% of the time that miss bounces hi and far. Mugsy Bogues would have had a better chance at rebounding that miss because it went straight down.



#21 is also the guy that blew by AJax for the DePriest-Esque monster dunk which pretty much dictated the outcome. 14:36 of the above video. Sanogo should have taken the charge but he bailed.

And the Sanogo missed bunny. I think the announcer said he thought AS was fouled or blocked resulting in the awful shot.

Yes, the ball dropped into the lap of a player who was positioned directly under the rim.

Do you think Clingan would’ve let him get position like that? Also, if the ball somehow still lands in the Hall player’s lap, do you think he’d have had as easy a put back with Clingan in his face? The answer is, hell no. Clingan’s mere presence alters shots.

 

[CONN78SEJ]

Teams are gonna go on runs, especially at home. Seton Hall did. Teams will have lulls. UConn did that.

But, with 10+ minutes left, after Hall closed the gap to one, UConn scored eight points in 66 seconds to get the lead back to seven with nine minutes left. It was still a five point lead with five to play. For the next three minutes, neither team hit from the floor, although Hall sunk two FTs to cut it to three.

In the final two minutes UConn attempted one shot, a Karaban three. The final six attempts were all from forwards, two each from AS, DC, ang AK. Over the final seven minutes, Newton scored six points, a jumper and four FTs, Rest of team scored zilch, nada, bupkis.

The way I see it, UConn lost the game in the last five minutes, not the first five.

How many offensive rbs did UConn have in the final 7 mins, and how many turn overs, and who made them…..Zilch, Nada, or Nupkis?

 

[storrsroars]

How many offensive rbs did UConn have in the final 7 mins, and how many turn overs, and who made them…..Zilch, Nada, or Nupkis?

Obviously you already know the answer to this, so not sure what point you're trying to make. DC had the only two, one, if not both, off his own missed bunny. The three TOs were Jax, Newton and Clingan. Hall had two TOs in that same time frame and four offensive rebounds.

 

[HuskyHawk]

Yes, the ball dropped into the lap of a player who was positioned directly under the rim.

Do you think Clingan would’ve let him get position like that? Also, if the ball somehow still lands in the Hall player’s lap, do you think he’d have had as easy a put back with Clingan in his face? The answer is, hell no. Clingan’s mere presence alters shots.

Yes, Clingan would have let him get that position because he got there when Kadary was driving on the right side and Clingan, like Sanogo would have focused on that. People need to watch the play. If there was anybody who could have boxed him out, it's Hawkins.

 

[UConniki]

Yes, Clingan would have let him get that position because he got there when Kadary was driving on the right side and Clingan, like Sanogo would have focused on that. People need to watch the play. If there was anybody who could have boxed him out, it's Hawkins.

If Clingan was there, he’d have to shoot over someone who’s 8 inches taller with a longer wingspan than Hawkins. It would have made a difference, maybe he fouls him and he doesn’t make both shots either we win or overtime. It would have been Impossible for Clingans presence on the court to result in a worse outcome…. Only good things could’ve happened had he been put in vs the result we ended up with. Without him we lost, with him our chances of a different outcome go up dramatically.

 

[EnochRoot]

If Clingan was there, he’d have to shoot over someone who’s 8 inches taller with a longer wingspan than Hawkins. It would have made a difference, maybe he fouls him and he doesn’t make both shots either we win or overtime. It would have been Impossible for Clingans presence on the court to result in a worse outcome…. Only good things could’ve happened had he been put in vs the result we ended up with. Without him we lost, with him our chances of a different outcome go up dramatically.

Right. To argue otherwise is really the logical fallacy of the predetermined outcome. There's just way too many variables at play to suggest the play even goes down the way it did. Like, at all.

 

[mauconnfan]

Did anyone watch the final play? I have a bunch.

Sanogo helped on the drive forcing the pass deep. He was now out of position. Karaban was boxing out the dude who scored and left him to jump out on the 3 point shot. Sanogo had boxed out the right side. Jackson’s man took the 3 so he ran in for the rebound but was now behind the rebounder. The shot hit the front rim and went straight down into his hands. Which is why no one jumped. Not sure how this was on Sanogo.

He didn’t box out anyone at all, but he wasn’t the only one!

Truth is it’s the worst rebound off an awful shot that could happen, basically straight down. But reality is if you’re boxing out he doesn’t get to the short rimmer fast enough.

 

[Candyman]

He didn’t box out anyone at all, but he wasn’t the only one!

Truth is it’s the worst rebound off an awful shot that could happen, basically straight down. But reality is if you’re boxing out he doesn’t get to the short rimmer fast enough.

He had the whole right side and knew Richmond was there and couldn’t leave him alone for a put back. If he leaves that side to go to the middle and the ball bounces to Richmond who was coming from behind him and he scores ya’ll will still blame him.

Clingan would not have grabbed that rebound. He would have had to help on Richmond and then get back to the middle and that wouldn’t have happened. Maybe he would have blocked the shot for sure but the SH kid had position cause Karaban left him, which he had to.

 

[mauconnfan]

He had the whole right side and knew Richmond was there and couldn’t leave him alone for a put back. If he leaves that side to go to the middle and the ball bounces to Richmond who was coming from behind him and he scores ya’ll will still blame him.

Clingan would not have grabbed that rebound. He would have had to help on Richmond and then get back to the middle and that wouldn’t have happened. Maybe he would have blocked the shot for sure but the SH kid had position cause Karaban left him, which he had to.

Watch again he didn’t touch Richmond he didn’t even put a body on him at all actually Richmond snuck under him and had a better chance at the rebound than Adama. In those situations your natural instincts should be to look for someone to hit with your butt so it’s not on him he didn’t get Ndefo but he didn’t do his job either. If Andre he and Newton who are all near the basket hit someone that ball lands and it gets knocked around. You seek a body to bang and keep away. No one did their job and they got what they deserved.

 

[HuskyHawk]

He had the whole right side and knew Richmond was there and couldn’t leave him alone for a put back. If he leaves that side to go to the middle and the ball bounces to Richmond who was coming from behind him and he scores ya’ll will still blame him.

Clingan would not have grabbed that rebound. He would have had to help on Richmond and then get back to the middle and that wouldn’t have happened. Maybe he would have blocked the shot for sure but the SH kid had position cause Karaban left him, which he had to.

There is no point. Half the board thinks Clingan is Wilt Chamberlain and Sanogo is now Kwintin Williams. Never seen UConn fans have a more irrational man crush on a player.

 

[giddyup]

. No one did their job and they got what they deserved.

yup. These are things high school
Kids know. These are losing habits brought about by mental lapses, and made worse by no tactical leadership. A recreation league coach would know to put Clingan in. More subtlety if there are no TOs left you send your guy in with a message … box, box, body on everybody on shot … as a reminder